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 And all of Northwest Alabama and Southern Tennessee. It's time for the Valley's exclusive FM sports voice.

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 The Boomo Bugg Show. Your exclusive inside track to the tie. Tigers, Tennessee and the rest of the SEC. Now your host, Harold Bugg on 93.9 The Score.

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 Good afternoon and welcome in to the Boomo Bugg Show. I'm Harold Bugg alongside Brett Beaird. Thank you so much.

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 We're going to be right around the Tennessee Valley. Brett Beaird, welcome in. Where could there be an Iron Bowl flip in the makings?

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 Good afternoon, welcome in and how are you?

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 Happy Wednesday to you and the listeners. Mr. College Football, Tony Barnhart, gives us his thoughts on the upcoming season a little bit later.

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 Cody Gross, head football coach at Athens High School. We'll talk about the 2026 season.

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 And we are always delighted to bring in the Hall of Famer, Harold Bugg. I believe I'm correct on this and I'll let him confirm it.

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 He is one of two, maybe. Bob Holt was. The other one, God rest his soul.

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 Ron Higgins has attended every media days in history and I want him to confirm that.

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 I want to read his book. I don't care about the X's and O's. I want to read about the other stuff from Ron.

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 Well, why wait? Just go ahead and say hello to Ron Higgins, fine columnist for the Street Report, Bossier Journal.

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 Ron, welcome in.

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 Are you a rookie of these things called the SEC media days or what, Ron? How are you?

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 I'm good. I had my street broken last year. My wife got sick and I couldn't go.

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 Oh, that's right. You're right. I'm sorry.

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 The street was broken.

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 Blame it on the wife, Ron. We all do. Go ahead.

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 But, yeah, really.

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 Well, hopefully she's doing better. But, Ron, obviously it is next week.

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 Do you agree that it is, let's face it, the unofficial kickoff to college football season, particularly in our neck of the woods?

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 Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, you have all the coaches. This is a fascinating year.

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 I mean, I don't know how people can predict this past the first couple of teams, honestly, because there's so many new coaches in different places.

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 I mean, it's just incredible. I've been a little while looking at it and like, how do you pick this thing?

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 They've got new coaches galore.

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 You took them down the line. I mean, Pete Golding, Ole Miss, I mean, LSU, Auburn, Florida, you know, Kentucky, Arkansas.

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 That's ridiculous. I mean, I'm just like, so anybody who thinks they can pick this thing, I mean, as far as I know, Georgia and Texas, that'll have been about seven teams together.

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 It's crazy. It really is.

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 Let's talk about this run. Obviously, back in the day when it was at Hoover, we thought it'd never leave, but of course, we know now that we were wrong about that along with a lot of other things.

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 But when the king came in, it was indisputable who was the king. He'd drive up his Mercedes. He'd have the court waiting on him and the escalators coming up to the bottom floor, the top floor.

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 Is it safe to say that your neighbor in Louisiana may be taking on that crown as far as the go-to interview and the one that basically is probably going to cause more ripples with one Paul Feinbaum next week?

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 Oh, probably, yeah. You know, the thing is, the thing about Lane is, is that Lane says more controversial stuff on social media than he ever does in an interview.

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 You're right.

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 And it's, you know, I kind of admit about him. I mean, now that you know he's here every day, you have press conferences, you see him like all these, when he first got here, all these guys who hadn't really been around him a lot, they're like,

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 Well, this is the way, I mean, I've never seen a guy who's so bold on social media, you get in front of a microphone and he, and he doesn't really look you in the face and he kind of shifts him foot to foot.

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 And he kind of speaks real slow and not kind of unsure himself. And, you know, it's crazy. It's like this, you know, but you, I guess you lock him in a room with a, with a, a phone, you know,

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 You know, throw stuff out there, but it's, you know, I think everybody's ready for this football season to get, obviously with Lane, you know, at LSU.

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 It'll be, everybody be, you know, there has to be paid for this thing.

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 You know, and people in Louisiana, I mean, some of the LSU fans are, let's put it this way, about three-fourths of them are delusional.

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 You know, you know, we should be the national championship hunt. You know, we should be right there.

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 I'm thinking, I'm thinking, man.

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 Realistically, what would you put LSU right now, realistically, if there is such a thing?

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 Probably in the league, probably about six.

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 You know, and I'm thinking best case, with their schedule, best case scenario is nine and three.

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 But I'm telling people, I'm telling people, okay, you're talking, you know, we'll be a national playoff. You're going to be a national playoff.

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 All I want them to do is get a first down and third and one. All I want them to do is to block somebody coming off the edge.

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 All I want them to do is not jump offside every other play.

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 All I want them to do is not everything they did last year wrong. That's all I'm asking for, far at all.

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 Then we'll move on to other things.

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 But let's get the little basics taken care of that just ruined your season last year, okay, and then move on.

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 You've got 50-something new players, okay? You've got 50-something new players. You've got a quarterback who didn't participate in the spring, but he's well now. He really is. He's done a really good job golf season.

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 But he's got basically 30 days to get ready to play Clemson, and then two weeks after that, you play Ole Miss, and then three weeks after that, you play Texas A&M.

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 So you've got to be really good early, and that's why I think people are kind of, you know, I understand they're enthusiastic, you know, they've got, you know, the best play caller in the conference, the guy that's offensive-minded and runs a million plays every game.

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 But they've got to be realistic about how quickly he can bring all this talent together, and that's, this is the most new players L.C. has ever had in one season, and that's, and it's the most new players L.C. has ever had, too.

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 He didn't have this many players at all this in one year, so I think people around here kind of need to try to look at those things a little more realistically and think, you know, like I said, I think nine and three would be great.

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 We'll give them the playoff. I don't know. It depends who they beat.

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 That's the top side for me because when I start looking at their schedule, and you lead off with Clemson their first week, Ole Miss and Texas A&M, that's three of the first four games.

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 And then you have a little thing where you've got Kentucky, Mississippi State, and Auburn, and then you end up with Alabama, Texas, that, Tennessee, that, Arkansas.

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 The beginning and the end is h***, and the middle is probably more challenging than you think because you've got new coaches in Kentucky and Auburn, and you play both those on the road.

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 So all these LSU fans need to kind of like, you know, get a little more sober about what they're thinking.

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 Greg Sankey, the commissioner of the SEC, would do his State of the State address to begin the conference next Monday, and a lot of people thought that it's San Daston in the spring that he would come out and basically give the SEC platform,

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 we want 16 games, we're going to keep the championship game through the contract in 2031.

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 Again, he's got another opportunity to basically address the nation of college football, Ron.

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 What would you like for him to say?

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 I like him to say we're going to keep 16 teams and we're going to type up a championship playoff and keep the 31 to h*** the rest of y'all, okay?

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 I mean, really, I mean, if you want a 16-team playoff, fine, that's great, okay?

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 But you take it past there, it's just stupid, okay?

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 It'd be just, you take it past there.

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 It's all money at that point, Ron.

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 It's all money.

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 It's inventory for ESPNs or whatever network at that point.

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 They're not 24 teams worthy of playing in the top of a national championship.

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 I mean, it's 16, you're pushing it, but, you know, my whole thing is you can't take it past there.

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 It gets to the point where it's like the NCAA basketball tournament.

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 How much more are you going to expand it?

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 Everybody gets, you know, everybody gets participation ribbon.

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 I just think if you're going to expand it, expand it to 16 and end right there, that's it.

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 And we're going to keep the championship game because, you know what, it's good for the conference.

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 It's lucrative for the conference.

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 And it makes money for the conference.

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 Everybody participates in it.

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 And it doesn't hurt you that much.

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 One time, it helps you.

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 And if you have one loss going in that game and you lose a game, you're going to still get in the playoff because you're in that game.

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 I want him to stand for the SEC and say, you know what, we are who we are, and we're not going to agree to this stuff.

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 And we, this is, this is how, this is where we are.

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 And let's go, let's battle about it.

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 Let's go.

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 Ron Higgins, hooking up with us.

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 Ron, in this day and time, how do you sort out what's fact and what's fiction?

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 I saw a blurb the other day and I kind of laughed at it.

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 Maybe the joke's on me, but it said, Nick Saban has the itch to maybe get back into the coaching game again.

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 Do you put any legs with that?

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 And if so, obviously, I still say the reason Nick got out, he was smarter than the rest of the crowd.

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 He saw where this thing was going and he knew that he was going to have to change his game book.

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 He's going to have to go out and buy players with the money he had on hand compared to Texas, A&M, et cetera.

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 But do you have any belief in some of these rumblings that Nick, I think he has the itch.

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 He's a coach at heart, but he's also a pretty smart guy.

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 He knows what he'd be facing now, especially at this age.

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 I think that Miss Terry is standing in front of him with a large bottle of calamine lotion.

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 Two shotguns loaded.

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 You're like a large bottle of extra-large of calamine lotion saying, I've got your itch right here, Nick.

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 Or you're crazy.

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 And he would be crazy.

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 I don't believe that.

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 I don't buy that one minute.

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 Not one minute.

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 Why would he want to get back in the game where there are no rules?

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 He's a control freak, Ron.

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 He can't control it now because he's got the money that controls it, and he has no control over how much money comes in now.

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 He's going to negotiate with players to stay on this team.

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 That's why he left.

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 He'll say, yeah, that's the reason he left.

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 I mean, he didn't want to – he just, you know – the last year for him was really hard health-wise.

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 He made it through.

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 Then he comes back to the playoff game.

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 People negotiate to, you know, leave or stay.

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 It takes – listen, it takes a certain type of coach these days to kind of survive that and understand that.

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 A lot of the old-school guys don't want to put up with it.

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 I mean, they're done.

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 You know, the other ones, it'll shorten their coaching lifespan for sure.

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 I mean, guys like Kiffin's age, they're coaching lifespan to be shortened because, frankly, they don't have to deal with this stuff every frigging year.

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 Every day of every year, you know, off-season, you know, it's just –

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 It's a mess.

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 And it's just – it wears you out.

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 It wears out – everybody involved, it wears out the coaches.

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 It wears out all your player personnel.

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 H***, it wears the media out.

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 That's right.

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 Yep.

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 And you know what?

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 It wears the fans out.

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 The fans are – I mean, they're kind of tired of it.

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 I really do believe that.

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 I mean, they love – they love college football, but they really don't love what it's become.

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 And they're kind of like, you know, how much money do I got to pay to go see a game?

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 How much money do we got to pay to buy a quarterback?

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 How much money is the first three words?

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 How much money?

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 And it's come to that to the point where it's not a h*** of a lot of fun anymore.

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 It's just basically who you can buy and how many rules you can bend and what kind of judges you get in your state to keep your players eligible.

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 And nobody can – has any jurisdiction over anything.

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 So it's tough for people to watch.

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 They'll probably even be more because they have more money than anybody else.

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 And every once in a while somebody will buy themselves into there and buy themselves into a playoff spot.

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 And, you know, say a Texas Tech, you know, they'll buy themselves into a playoff spot.

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 Well, if they can stay there, who knows?

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 But I just find it – it's really tough to watch.

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 And, you know, I'm not – I'm not naive to think this – I mean, this stuff wasn't going on 10 years ago.

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 But, like I said, there was an – there was honor among thieves, so to speak.

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 And it got to the point now where, you know, schools want to see other schools because they took their players and they said they broke their contracts.

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 Ole Miss wants to see LSU through the players.

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 Like, okay, really?

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 I mean, come on, man.

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 I mean, it is – everything's litigation.

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 I'm surprised in the middle of a game that a key third and one that falls short, they're going to call in a judge right there on the field and have litigation.

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 We'll just count it in, Ron.

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 Absolutely.

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 But we always enjoy the conversation.

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 Safe travels to Tampa to begin your streak again of attending SEC Media Days.

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 Ron, where can we get online to get all your good stuff?

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 Go to streetportbusierjournal.com.

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 You can find me there.

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 Theyronhiggins.org, which I haven't written in a while – I've been about a month off from writing to try to find some new verbs and adjectives in the same month.

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 And on Twitter, at Ron Higgins.

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 And on Instagram, SEC Ron.

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 Ron, listen, man, it's always a pleasure to catch up with you.

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 I want to echo those sentiments.

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 Safe travels.

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 And before you know it, we'll blink and it'll be here.

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 But in the meantime, thank you so much for your time today, buddy.

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 Hello to my son and my wife.

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 See y'all.

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 See you, buddy.

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 We wouldn't be celebrating America 250 if it wasn't for a strong foundation set by the framers.

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 Welcome back in.

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 How about this, BBB?

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 We just got done talking with a Hall of Famer down in Louisiana and this thing called the media with Ron Higgins.

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 Why don't you say we say hello to another Hall of Famer with roots closer to us?

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 Absolutely.

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 Let's do it.

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 Cody Gross, Hall of Famer at a place called UNA has something to do with winning back-to-back-to-back national championships.

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 Now, I think he's a golden eagle over at Athens High.

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 Coach Cody Gross, welcome in.

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 How are you?

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 Doing great.

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 I love that introduction.

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 That was a long, long, long, long time ago in a former life, but I was blessed to do it.

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 I don't know how long it is, Cody.

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 You're always going to be remembered when it comes to UNA football fans, but let's fast forward to this chapter of your life.

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 Crimmie, if I'm wrong, Cody, but is this the 10th year, I guess, which would be what, the 11th season?

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 Yes.

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 That you're now the head coach of Athens High.

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 Hey, y'all are pretty good.

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 Yes, sir.

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 It's the 11th season.

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 Hard to believe.

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 I have to get it when I can there, Cody, because it's hard to remember some of these things,

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 but obviously in 10 years, that in itself is a story in itself.

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 Talk to us about the journey to this point and about this team and how things are going in the offseason coming in.

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 Well, we lost a lot of guys two years ago, but then last year played with a lot of seniors who had not played a lot of ball.

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 That may not make sense, but we had a group before them that had played as sophomore, ninth graders, 10th graders, 11th graders.

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 So we had really some inexperienced seniors last year, but we lost a lot of those guys.

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 So now we've got a smaller senior class this year and a lot of young guys that are going to be playing for us.

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 So it has been a journey this offseason from the time the season ended to now, trying to build a team, see what it's going to be made of, who the leaders are going to be.

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 We've had a, I really do believe, a great offseason.

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 We've gotten much, much stronger, but we had plenty of room for growth because we were not very strong.

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 And when you're not very strong, you can get a lot stronger.

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 But the kids have put in the work, they've done that.

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 So, you know, I think we've also gotten faster.

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 I hope we've gotten tougher because that's going to be what winds up being the determining factor, I think, in how our season goes.

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 Because we've got really good kids.

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 I think we've got a great coaching staff.

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 And I think our kids are working hard.

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 It's going to be, what are you going to be able to do every Friday night against really, really, really good opponents week in and week out.

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 That's what I was going to mention to you.

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 I'm looking at the Class 5A Region 7 schedule, and you have never been shy about challenges.

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 You begin the year with West Morgan, and then you've got three consecutive road games at Bob Jones, East Limestone, at Decatur, the 98th meeting with Decatur.

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 Austin at Florence, Russellville, Hartzell, Muscle Shows.

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 My goodness, that is a challenging schedule.

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 It is.

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 Our region is basically what it was when I came here in 2016.

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 Austin and Florence were part of it before they moved up.

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 You know, you get them back in the mix.

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 That's two playoff teams from 7A last year.

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 You obviously Muscle Shows is Muscle Shows.

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 Hartzell is Hartzell.

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 Decatur is a young group.

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 It's going to be better.

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 Russellville with Coach Higgins coming in.

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 You know, I know what kind of coach he is and what they do schematically adds another wrinkle to it.

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 So, they're going to be extremely tough.

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 You know, we open up with West Morgan, who's won 30-something regular season games in a row.

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 Drew Phillips is probably the best coach in the state of Alabama.

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 And then you go to Bob Jones, who's got Seth Parker, a new coach there.

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 Both Phillips and Parker were part of my staff at one point.

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 But, you know, Coach Parker will do a great job of Bob Jones.

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 And, you know, like I say, then you get into region play, and you've got to strap it on every week.

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 And, you know, as a competitor, that's what you're looking for.

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 I mean, so we're going to get it.

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 But, you've got to show up each and every week ready to play.

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 Coach, Cody Gross in the huddle with us.

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 Cody, let's give some love to these kids.

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 Obviously, the folks over in Athens, they can't wait to get to make these household names.

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 I know the list is too long to get the complete list.

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 But, if you will, to the extent you can, talk to us about some of the guys you've got coming back on this team.

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 Well, I think the first guy that comes to mind is Aiden Lovell.

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 Aiden will be a three-year starter for us offensively.

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 He's played receiver.

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 He's played each back.

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 He's played running back.

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 He's involved in all special teams.

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 And he's a tremendous football player, about a 6'2", 210-pound kid that will line him up about anywhere offensively.

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 And he's a guy, obviously, we have to get the ball to.

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 James Newby is a tight end.

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 His dad played at NC State with Phillip Rivers.

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 And James, he'll be a three-year starter for us as well.

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 So, those guys offensively, obviously, are going to have to carry a big role as far as leadership goes.

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 And, you know, touching the ball, even Newby at tight end, he's turned into a good receiver.

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 Obviously, a good physical blocker.

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 But those are kind of the two guys offensively that we've got to try to get the ball to.

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 And then, you know, receiver, we've got a lot of guys in the mix, but really nobody with much experience.

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 Quarterback, we've got a little battle going there between really three guys that's in the mix.

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 But Cam Carden, Zayden Holman, and Jackson Moore.

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 And Carden and Moore, two guys that can also play receiver.

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 Offensive line, Shamar Yarbrough is back as a starter.

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 He'll be a senior at center.

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 Max Shinkunas started the last half of the season for us at guard.

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 He'll be a junior.

381
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 He's the third Shinkunas brother to play for me.

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 And then the last.

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 And then Desmond Malone is a guy that started the last half of the season as well.

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 So, you know, three starters back, but two of them started the last half of the season.

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 But that speaks of the growth that they had.

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 So that's kind of where we got as far as returners are offensively.

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 And then defensively, kind of starts at inside linebacker, Austin Campbell.

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 It will be a three-year starter.

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 He's a two-time state champion wrestler.

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 And he'll start in there at Mike Forrest.

391
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 Austin Barker started about half the season at linebacker as well.

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 He'll be there.

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 And then Brady Johnston at safety started about the last half of the season.

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 And Caden Bledsoe, all those guys I just mentioned defensively will be seniors.

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 So, two inside backers and two safeties are seniors that have experience.

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 And then beyond that, it's going to be a lot of guys that have not played a whole lot of ball.

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 But they have some ability, and they're just going to have to grow up pretty fast.

398
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 Let me ask you something.

399
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 I was looking.

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 I was doing some prep work last night.

401
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 It's certainly the schedule, which we mentioned.

402
00:28:02,340 --> 00:28:04,940
 But I was – something caught my eye.

403
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 The student enrollment at Athens High School right now is 1,014 students.

404
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 That's 34th in the state.

405
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,760
 Every time I go through Athens, it seems like it takes me longer.

406
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,780
 The growth in Athens has been incredible.

407
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 I did not realize, too.

408
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 I saw that you've now got over 1,000 students in the school.

409
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 Yeah, and it's going to keep growing.

410
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 Your elementary schools and the intermediate school and the middle school, those numbers continue to go up.

411
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 So we'll graduate a class, and then the ninth grade class coming up, replacing them, we'll have 75 more kids, 100 more kids.

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 So I figure the highest classifications in our future.

413
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,840
 But it is a fast-growing area.

414
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 It's a beautiful place to live.

415
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,020
 But we still have the old downtown.

416
00:29:00,420 --> 00:29:01,120
 We've got the square.

417
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,160
 And it's still the one-school town.

418
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 So that's something special.

419
00:29:06,740 --> 00:29:09,860
 And I think we're committed to keeping it a one-high school town.

420
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 At least I hope so.

421
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:16,640
 If it becomes more than that, somebody else will be the coach at both of them.

422
00:29:18,180 --> 00:29:21,460
 Listen, we always enjoy the conversation catching up with you.

423
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 Have a great summer.

424
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,380
 Good luck to you.

425
00:29:24,460 --> 00:29:26,220
 God bless the players and the coaches.

426
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 Hopefully we can do this again with you real soon.

427
00:29:30,020 --> 00:29:32,100
 But once you get into practice in August.

428
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,220
 Oh, yes, sir.

429
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:33,860
 Well, thank you all.

430
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 It's always a joy talking with you all.

431
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 You do such a great job.

432
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 And I really appreciate you.

433
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 I know you cover a lot.

434
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 But what you all do for high school sports is important.

435
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 And we really do appreciate you.

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 When it comes to Paul and the Crimson Tide, who does it better than Rodney Orr?

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535
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 Rodney Orr, welcome in.

536
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 How are you?

537
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 Hopefully, we'll be able to get Rodney on board with us here shortly.

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539
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 In the meantime, looking at the trio of Tiders heading over to Tampa for the SEC Media Days,

540
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 you think opposing quarterbacks are taking a close eye.

541
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 No quarterback, but two defensive backs, along with a wide receiver in Ryan Coleman-Williams.

542
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 It tells you a little bit about how Alabama feels about their secondary, B.B. coming in.

543
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 Well, I've been saying this for months.

544
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545
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 Zabian Brown is an incredible playmaker.

546
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 Ray Hubbard, I know, got embarrassed in the Florida State game.

547
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 But listen, he played his tail off the rest of the year.

548
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 But I think Rodney's rejoined us.

549
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 But, Harold, that's the reason why you've got the best secondary in the SEC coming to Tampa.

550
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 Rodney Orr, again, was said again.

551
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 He's the founder and editor of tighterinsider.com and the fine author of the book, Bigger Than Velma.

552
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 Rodney, welcome in.

553
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 Would you have one foot out of the door heading to Tampa to get there early for SEC Media Days?

554
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 How are you?

555
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 Not me, buddy.

556
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 I'm going to let the rest of them have it this year.

557
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 How about that?

558
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 Yeah, we're just sitting here talking as far as it's always a fun topic this time of the year.

559
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 Who's going to represent?

560
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 And now we know the answer to that question.

561
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 But Brett and I were talking about two things that's interesting about this.

562
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 You've got a wide receiver in Ryan Coleman-Williams.

563
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 He was made for a camera, number one.

564
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 He's got the smile.

565
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 Everybody wants that smile.

566
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 But you've got not one but two defensive backs in Zabian Brown and Bray Hubbard.

567
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 Rodney, that basically goes ahead and confirms what everybody knows.

568
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 The staff loves their secondary coming into this season.

569
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 Yeah.

570
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 Yeah, you're right.

571
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 I was thinking there's no big uglies as Keith Jackson used to call them, right?

572
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 Yeah, right.

573
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 Yeah, they love their DBs and they love, you know, tight ends and quarterbacks and those types of things.

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 And it's really not a surprise that those were the guys that were selected, actually.

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 I mean, that's kind of, if you were guessing beforehand, those would have been the three that would have probably come to mind first.

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 And, you know, all of those guys, obviously, are going to be really key factors in this coming year.

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 And so, you know, again, it's not really a surprise who's representing.

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 Let me ask you about that.

579
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 Obviously, the secondary is getting a lot of love.

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 But, Rodney, how do you feel about the defense overall?

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 Because secondary is great.

582
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 But if the other team can run the ball, they ain't going to have to throw a whole lot.

583
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 Your thoughts about the defense as a whole.

584
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 Everybody's talking about the offense and who's going to be the quarterback.

585
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 But let's say it's about half the time.

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 You're going to have to keep the other guys out of the end zone.

587
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 Yeah.

588
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 And I think, you know, the feeling is, and again, this is their feeling, I think,

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 that they did a really good job on the portal additions on the defensive front.

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 They got bigger.

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 They got stronger.

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 They got some experience.

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 You know, Terrence Green, Devin Tompkins, Kedrick Bingley-Jones, you know, those guys,

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 certainly when you add them to some of the ones that they have, that, frankly,

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 it's time for those guys to take a step.

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 We need to see him take a step.

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 I mean, he's got incredible potential.

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 He's going into year three now.

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 I think he's a tremendous athlete.

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 He's raw power.

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 I mean, it's unbelievable just watching how strong he is.

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 And now it's time for him to take that step.

604
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 I think Edrick Hill, you know, Jeremiah Beeman, there were a lot of expectations last year,

605
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 and he was injured, you know, right around the FSU game afterwards.

606
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 You know, he didn't play anymore.

607
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 So some of those guys need to take a step up.

608
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 But I think to answer your question, the feeling is that the defensive front is going to be a lot better or be better, should be better.

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 And I think they feel like they can do a better job of stopping the run.

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 I think the one question, Harold, if you look at the defense, it's probably inside linebacker.

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 And part of that's just the lack of experience.

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 You know, we may not be calling it a question mark seven, eight weeks into the season anymore.

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 But right now, as you look at it, a lot of young players.

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 And, you know, I do know, obviously, you mentioned Caleb Woodson, the transfer from Virginia Tech,

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 because he is an experienced guy.

616
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 He's been very productive at Virginia Tech.

617
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 So he's a guy that you look at and you say, okay, he brings what they need in that regard to the inside backer core.

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 Ron, you had a quick note this week about Noah Rogers that seems to be promising.

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 I think a lot of people just simply did not know the extent of the injury.

620
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621
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 But he is now running some routes, appears to be moving well.

622
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 Now, does that mean he'll be ready for East Carolina?

623
00:40:58,240 --> 00:40:59,240
 Probably not.

624
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:06,740
 But, you know, instead of coming back at Halloween, it appears, Ron, if he continues to make progress,

625
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 it'll be earlier than that.

626
00:41:08,620 --> 00:41:11,140
 And I know Alabama's got some very good receivers.

627
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,440
 But, believe me, Dem still helps.

628
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,940
 I guess I'd use the word promising, Bronny, about Rogers.

629
00:41:19,980 --> 00:41:21,100
 I think so.

630
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:26,040
 I mean, based on what I heard, it sounded really promising, actually, the progress that he's made,

631
00:41:26,220 --> 00:41:27,500
 how he's moving around.

632
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,040
 And, again, let's be clear.

633
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 I'm not – I wasn't told that he was moving full speed or anything like that.

634
00:41:33,340 --> 00:41:36,120
 But just how far, how much progress he's made.

635
00:41:36,420 --> 00:41:42,500
 And, like you said, I think the feeling was he would be out at least until mid-October to late October.

636
00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:50,500
 And now, you know, again, just the feel I got, the sense I got was there's some optimism that maybe,

637
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 maybe where he is right now, it could be a little sooner.

638
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642
00:42:07,540 --> 00:42:15,140
 But a lot of rumblings about Cedric Simmons out of Selma, three-star wide receiver, committed earlier to Auburn.

643
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:20,220
 Rumblings now that there's a possibility he's going to flip from Auburn to Alabama.

644
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:24,760
 Is this just smoke for the Internet, or does this have teeth to it, in your opinion?

645
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:31,460
 Yeah, I mean, again, I think when you look at him, there was a feeling early that he was going to commit to Alabama, pick Alabama.

646
00:42:31,660 --> 00:42:35,820
 And then as he got closer to the time he made his decision, he picked Auburn.

647
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,000
 Again, his brother obviously played there, Malcolm, and now at Texas Tech.

648
00:42:40,940 --> 00:42:45,160
 But, yeah, you're hearing that right now, that there's a chance he'll flip.

649
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:52,880
 What that really tells me from experience, Harold, is we've seen when these types of things happen, just hold on.

650
00:42:53,020 --> 00:42:54,900
 Because it could go back and forth for a while.

651
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:59,660
 So, again, I know everyone gets excited and all of that.

652
00:43:00,260 --> 00:43:03,720
 And he might flip, and he might stick.

653
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:11,440
 But I do say history tells us when it gets in a battle like that between Alabama and Auburn, you kind of see it go back and forth a few times.

654
00:43:11,860 --> 00:43:14,660
 Here's the other part of it, too, as far as what's being unsaid.

655
00:43:14,660 --> 00:43:16,280
 But I think a lot of folks probably think it.

656
00:43:16,340 --> 00:43:20,320
 Does it also say something about Alabama's chances with sales, Alabama's sales?

657
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:26,060
 Because, obviously, you know they had budgeted a lot of money to pull him to Alabama.

658
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,340
 And now it looks like right now it looks like that Alabama's on the outside looking in.

659
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,880
 Again, let me make sure we're not saying that.

660
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 That's just according to the sources.

661
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 Anything, as you mentioned, can happen.

662
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:45,940
 But is it basically a way of saying Alabama says, okay, let's go ahead and maybe go all in now, budget-wise, with a young man out of Selma?

663
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:48,240
 Yeah, or go more in for sure.

664
00:43:48,780 --> 00:43:51,380
 Yeah, I mean, he's not going to get sales money.

665
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,040
 Right, no.

666
00:43:52,460 --> 00:43:54,140
 I mean, you know that.

667
00:43:55,240 --> 00:44:03,360
 But, again, he is, yeah, I mean, I think it gives him an opportunity there to kind of reconsider where they are with people.

668
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:11,180
 So, and, again, I think it would be a really good pickup because Cedric Simmons is a really productive player.

669
00:44:11,940 --> 00:44:13,500
 He's been very, very productive.

670
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,660
 Had over 1,000 yards receiving, 20 touchdowns I think he had last year.

671
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,540
 So, you know, certainly would be a nice addition.

672
00:44:22,220 --> 00:44:30,280
 Let me ask you about Blaylock, the offensive lineman, the four-star, big kid from Ohio, many considering to be the best player.

673
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:42,140
 Again, he's a 20-28, and we know all of the, you know, listen, they couldn't keep six of the 20-27 early commitments, much less a 20-28.

674
00:44:42,580 --> 00:44:46,380
 But the six that they've got are pretty impressive.

675
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,780
 And, again, I've heard a lot of good things about that kid.

676
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,260
 Ronnie, we've got a long way to go, obviously.

677
00:44:52,660 --> 00:44:55,000
 We're not through 20-27 yet.

678
00:44:55,140 --> 00:44:57,900
 But your thoughts on the Blaylock kid from Ohio?

679
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,960
 Yeah, I mean, I think it's a great pickup.

680
00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:03,840
 I think, obviously, you only have one offensive lineman committed in this class.

681
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,580
 Now, again, they could go to the portal later.

682
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:20,520
 But you have one, so I think it would be more of a priority next year to, and plus it gives Clem a time, to Adrian Clem, the offensive line coach, time to kind of evaluate the guys that he likes, the relationships that he has.

683
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:27,360
 And it kind of, I think, I think overall, when you look at it, when Cap left, they lost some of that.

684
00:45:28,900 --> 00:45:31,780
 So, I do like Blaylock a lot.

685
00:45:31,780 --> 00:45:33,380
 I mean, obviously, he's got great size.

686
00:45:33,460 --> 00:45:34,480
 He's got some versatility.

687
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,340
 He could potentially end up as a tackle.

688
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,380
 I think most people think he'll be a guard.

689
00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:41,720
 You know, sometimes you have to get him here before you know.

690
00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:44,240
 I mean, Brett, you and Harold know this really, really well.

691
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:47,540
 When these guys recruit, they evaluate, they do all of these things.

692
00:45:47,540 --> 00:45:49,100
 But it's not an exact science.

693
00:45:49,220 --> 00:45:53,760
 I mean, sometimes you get a guy here, and you think he can do one thing, and you see he can do more.

694
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,580
 Sometimes you see he can do things that you didn't expect that make him better somewhere else.

695
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:04,400
 So, I think you just have to kind of get a kid like Blaylock here and see where he fits in.

696
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,140
 But it's a big pickup.

697
00:46:05,140 --> 00:46:10,000
 Now, we'll say this, and I always warn my group on tighterinsider.com.

698
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,320
 Some of them don't like to hear it, but it's the truth.

699
00:46:13,460 --> 00:46:15,800
 And you guys know, you said it, Brett.

700
00:46:15,940 --> 00:46:16,940
 It is early.

701
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,460
 And, listen, if he continues his stock, he's rated pretty high now.

702
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:27,120
 If his stock continues to elevate, he hasn't seen his best or biggest NIL offer yet.

703
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:27,440
 Oh, no.

704
00:46:28,140 --> 00:46:29,860
 So, keep that in mind.

705
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,640
 Things can change very rapidly.

706
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,880
 2026 is what we're saying, right, Rodney?

707
00:46:35,980 --> 00:46:39,580
 Obviously, media day signals a lot of things, as most would say,

708
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,800
 the unofficial beginning of college football season, as if it ever ends here at tighterinsider.com.

709
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:51,860
 But one thing I think that kind of gets lost on the shelf as far as success of a season is the offseason program and the vibe coming out.

710
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:59,520
 What are you hearing about the offseason programming as far as basically getting nastier, stronger, and a vibe that says,

711
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,320
 let's don't get in the fetal position over the last two seasons.

712
00:47:02,660 --> 00:47:04,940
 Let's take the lessons from that, but not the pain.

713
00:47:05,020 --> 00:47:05,680
 Let's get busier.

714
00:47:05,820 --> 00:47:11,260
 What are you hearing out of the building coming in, if you will, the unofficial beginning of college football season?

715
00:47:12,380 --> 00:47:21,000
 Well, Harold, you know, I posted some stuff a few weeks ago, and I got the response was Missouri, you know?

716
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:22,260
 Chill me.

717
00:47:22,780 --> 00:47:23,440
 Just chill me.

718
00:47:24,020 --> 00:47:25,000
 I'm tired of hearing it.

719
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,180
 We heard it last summer.

720
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:27,020
 It was going to be this.

721
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:27,820
 It was going to be that.

722
00:47:27,860 --> 00:47:29,880
 And then you came out and laid an egg against Florida State.

723
00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:33,700
 So, I said, okay, I won't share that with you if you don't want to know.

724
00:47:33,780 --> 00:47:39,400
 But I do think this, based on things you hear, I think they feel really good.

725
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:48,180
 And I think that they're using the things that happened last year, the negatives, as a motivational factor, using it to motivate.

726
00:47:48,820 --> 00:47:53,740
 I think, you know, based on some things I've heard, Baloo is really wearing the players out about the Indiana game.

727
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:59,680
 And, you know, that it was an embarrassment and it's not going to happen again and this kind of stuff and all of that.

728
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:08,740
 And, you know, at the same time, we heard that last year, that after the Michigan Bowl game, that they held a closed-door meeting and said, hey, it's going to be our way.

729
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,360
 The highway, you don't like it, hit that door.

730
00:48:10,660 --> 00:48:12,060
 And nobody hit the door.

731
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,740
 And so, I think this year it's still kind of that same tone that you hear.

732
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,200
 It's like, hey, you know what?

733
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:19,560
 We've got to get better.

734
00:48:19,660 --> 00:48:21,280
 We've got to play with more consistency.

735
00:48:22,180 --> 00:48:24,220
 You know, we've got to be more physical.

736
00:48:24,780 --> 00:48:25,800
 Those types of things.

737
00:48:25,900 --> 00:48:28,500
 Now, again, the proof is always in the pudding, right?

738
00:48:28,780 --> 00:48:30,140
 So, we'll see.

739
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:31,380
 We're not that far away.

740
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,220
 And I think those first five games, Harold and Brett, are going to be really, really key.

741
00:48:35,860 --> 00:48:36,720
 I agree, Ronnie.

742
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,460
 And I say this every way.

743
00:48:38,580 --> 00:48:42,900
 You kind of want to know about who's going to be the quarterback that's going to play itself out.

744
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,760
 Are they going to run the ball more effectively?

745
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,360
 I do believe they will.

746
00:48:47,060 --> 00:48:49,960
 But, Ronnie, you win games at the line of scrimmage.

747
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:51,860
 You've got to be physical.

748
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,080
 You've got to be tough.

749
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,780
 And I've heard that the practices have been tougher.

750
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,660
 Look, they're not Gene Stallings tough or Nick Saban's tough.

751
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,320
 But they've come a long way, I believe, in two years.

752
00:49:04,540 --> 00:49:07,220
 But you've still got to win the line of scrimmage.

753
00:49:07,340 --> 00:49:19,900
 But one thing we do know that is a consistent winner is Titer Insider, best sports coverage of Alabama, football, basketball, recruiting, coaching changes, if there are any.

754
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,380
 Ronnie, the 24-7 message board, Titer Insider TV.

755
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,660
 Where can we get online and get all the great stuff?

756
00:49:27,740 --> 00:49:31,040
 And, once again, we talk about five stars on and off the field.

757
00:49:31,620 --> 00:49:32,580
 You need a book.

758
00:49:32,820 --> 00:49:38,740
 If you're on the beach reading, you're at the lake, you need to be reading Bigger Than Bama.

759
00:49:40,140 --> 00:49:41,800
 Yes, I appreciate that, Brett.

760
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 And TiterInsider.com, it's only $48 a year.

761
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 And you can get access right now with your credit card if you prefer.

762
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 There is an address there to send a check.

763
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 And then, also, you mentioned the book, Bigger Than Bama.

764
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 You can go to RodneyOr.com.

765
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 It's RodneyOr.com.

766
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 Or you can go to Amazon, either one.

767
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 And you can get all the details there.

768
00:50:01,460 --> 00:50:02,900
 Rodney, get some rest.

769
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:08,880
 I got a feeling the boys and girls on TiterInsider.com are going to really heat up the chatter here before you know.

770
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:09,900
 So, get some rest, okay?

771
00:50:10,660 --> 00:50:11,300
 All right, guys.

772
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,600
 I appreciate it, Harold Britt.

773
00:50:12,660 --> 00:50:13,100
 Take care.

774
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:13,880
 You too, Rodney.

775
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,960
 RodneyOr, he's busy there at TiterInsider.com.

776
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,340
 Bigger Than Bama is the book.

777
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 Coming up the next hour, I'm going to be taking you all over the place.

778
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 Going to be checking in with Double D, Drew DeArmond.

779
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780
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 And Little Auburn Talk with Jason Caldwell.

781
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 It's all straight ahead.

782
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808
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856
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 Alabama House delegates voted in favor of a bill that would make daylight savings time permanent throughout the U.S.

857
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 This would mean that clocks are not changed at two different times during a year.

858
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 The Sunshine Protection Act passed the U.S. House and now heads over to the U.S. Senate,

859
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 where its future passage is very precarious.

860
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 Republican and Democrat House members representing the state of Alabama, all but one, voted in favor of this bill.

861
00:54:47,500 --> 00:54:48,920
 Congressman Mike Rogers did not.

862
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 Congressman Robert Adderholt said that the Sunshine Protection Act provides consistency throughout the year,

863
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864
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865
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867
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868
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874
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 A 42-year-old man turned himself into the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department on sex crime charges.

875
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 42-year-old Michael DeWoodie is being held without bond in accordance with Anaya's law

876
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877
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 A Geneva man died this past Tuesday after a large limb from a tree fell on him.

878
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 68-year-old Melvin Dixon was struck by that limb while he was walking his grandson on County Road 4.

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 Argentina and England meet in the second World Cup semifinal in Atlanta today.

888
00:56:50,180 --> 00:56:52,680
 Both teams endured plenty of drama to get to this point.

889
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:57,120
 England trailed in the second half against DR Congo, survived a red card to beat Mexico,

890
00:56:57,340 --> 00:56:58,960
 and needed extra time to get past Norway.

891
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:04,940
 Argentina got through via extra time against Cape Verde, then had a memorable 3-2 comeback against Egypt,

892
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,160
 and yet again needed extra time to beat Switzerland in the quarterfinals.

893
00:57:08,620 --> 00:57:11,140
 England manager Thomas Tuchel expects a tough battle.

894
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:12,660
 It's two big football nations.

895
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,480
 We expect an intense match.

896
00:57:14,580 --> 00:57:16,120
 We expect an emotional match.

897
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,940
 I expect a match with a lot of momentum swings.

898
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,060
 And yeah, everything else would surprise me.

899
00:57:23,060 --> 00:57:28,380
 The winner moves on to play Spain in Sunday's final after La Roja shut down France yesterday 2-0.

900
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917
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925
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926
00:58:46,220 --> 00:58:49,600
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927
00:58:49,780 --> 00:58:50,220
 You hear my things?

928
00:58:50,260 --> 00:58:51,480
 It's just the Braves and Fields.

929
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,880
 Well, guess who's also just three games back, tied with Fields.

930
00:58:56,020 --> 00:58:59,860
 The Marlins, they have not only one legitimate chaser, but they've got two.

931
00:59:00,420 --> 00:59:03,180
 And let's face it, the Nationals are not too far back at seven.

932
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,040
 Well, we've got a pittance race.

933
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:05,940
 There's no question.

934
00:59:06,260 --> 00:59:07,500
 We've got a pittance race.

935
00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:13,380
 And I think the Marlins have been, I think it's 26 and 8 since June 1st.

936
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:13,980
 Yep.

937
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:15,740
 It could be any of the three.

938
00:59:16,260 --> 00:59:18,860
 You know, it could be Atlanta and Philadelphia or Miami.

939
00:59:19,100 --> 00:59:20,480
 It could be legit.

940
00:59:20,780 --> 00:59:22,460
 I mean, they've got a lot of no-name players.

941
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,100
 I don't think Jeff Conine's playing for them anymore.

942
00:59:26,220 --> 00:59:28,680
 But I mean, they've got a lot of no-name players.

943
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,720
 Young players have done really well.

944
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,140
 And you've got to give credit for that.

945
00:59:32,780 --> 00:59:34,400
 Tommy John says hello, by the way.

946
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:35,620
 He's got a control to that.

947
00:59:36,180 --> 00:59:40,220
 His legs, his arm's not too good, but his mouth's pretty daggum loud.

948
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961
01:00:41,140 --> 01:00:46,540
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962
01:00:47,100 --> 01:00:49,180
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963
01:00:49,300 --> 01:00:50,920
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964
01:00:51,020 --> 01:00:54,060
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965
01:00:54,220 --> 01:00:57,360
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966
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,920
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967
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:02,100
 Jason, welcome in.

968
01:01:02,180 --> 01:01:02,780
 How are you?

969
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:04,080
 I'm good, guys.

970
01:01:04,140 --> 01:01:04,460
 How about y'all?

971
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:04,800
 Hey, Ben.

972
01:01:05,020 --> 01:01:05,860
 Man, we're doing all right.

973
01:01:05,900 --> 01:01:10,940
 Can you imagine, what were the odds of one year ago, Byron Brown saying,

974
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:17,900
 I'm going to go face the media here in Tampa, Florida, but I'm going to be representing the Auburn Tigers.

975
01:01:18,220 --> 01:01:18,340
 What?

976
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,420
 Talk about coming full circle.

977
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,460
 Jason, it's amazing how life sometimes plays itself out, is it not?

978
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,220
 Yeah, it's a little crazy.

979
01:01:26,220 --> 01:01:37,580
 So, yep, you look in Tampa, first of all, and I mean, it is, I guess, semi-SECC because Florida is the school that probably dominates much of the attention there.

980
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:47,820
 But to go there and to go, you know, Auburn taking a coach and a quarterback there that everybody's pretty familiar with, you can go like, hey, kind of back home again for those guys.

981
01:01:48,480 --> 01:02:02,060
 I think it's going to be interesting to see, this is the first time they're going to be, let's face it, in all due respect, the South Florida, but no one in their right mind would say they're going to, the spotlight there is as hot and as focused as it is in the SEC.

982
01:02:02,420 --> 01:02:12,280
 In a particular place like Auburn where the fans are hungry for not only success but immediate success, it's going to be interesting to see, just right out of the bat, how he handles that much attention, is it not?

983
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:36,360
 Yeah, and I think it would be interesting because it's a big city, obviously, in Tampa, but big cities normally get less attention from local media because you've got the Bucs and you've got the Rays and you've got the Yankees right there in town in terms of where their farm team is.

984
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:45,040
 So, yeah, it'll be a little bit different, obviously, but I think the spring, you get a taste of that when you show up for practice and post-practice and there's 12, 15 folks waiting to talk to you.

985
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:52,660
 So, I think you get to understand that, but no, SEC media days will be very different when you're talking about several hundred folks.

986
01:02:52,760 --> 01:03:02,100
 It'll be by far the largest gathering and, hey, look, it's going to be different for, I mean, for a lot of folks this year, you know, Ron Silverfield and some of these guys that are going for the first time.

987
01:03:02,100 --> 01:03:10,640
 I mean, even, I mean, you know, look, Pete Golding coached in a playoff game, but this is a completely different thing where now it's your team.

988
01:03:10,940 --> 01:03:19,040
 You got to go, I mean, so, yeah, I think it's going to be interesting because we were talking about this week, it's like, there's nine teams that aren't taking a quarterback.

989
01:03:19,740 --> 01:03:20,180
 Wow.

990
01:03:20,180 --> 01:03:26,240
 And you look at this league and you go, okay, that, that is a, that's not to pay attention to.

991
01:03:26,300 --> 01:03:32,380
 In LSU, you feel like, you know, the quarterback is, but for everybody else, there's a lot of quarterback battles, about half of this league.

992
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:40,680
 That's going to be really interesting in this day and age where normally you're going to get a transfer quarterback and plugging them in to have a bunch of battles is really interesting.

993
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,340
 You got Auburn already knowing theirs, but talk about the other nine.

994
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:53,860
 In your opinion, it's just a fun topic here, Jason, away from Auburn for a second, but in your opinion, who is in the best position as far as, like you said, LSU, obviously be the answer there.

995
01:03:54,180 --> 01:03:58,820
 But a lot of these guys, let's face it, it's a roll of the dice for the other seven or eight teams out there.

996
01:03:59,400 --> 01:03:59,980
 It is.

997
01:04:00,140 --> 01:04:11,380
 I mean, you look and go, um, you know, when you look at that one, I mean, I mean, look at Alabama and you go like, you got two really talented options, but you're rebuilding an offensive line.

998
01:04:11,540 --> 01:04:12,800
 Can you run the football?

999
01:04:12,940 --> 01:04:29,180
 I mean, like to me, that one is, Alabama and Tennessee to me are the two most interesting just because of the expectations for those versus Bandy, Kentucky, um, you know, some of the other Arkansas, Missouri, even maybe like you think Alabama, Tennessee, and you're thinking,

1000
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:36,180
 well, they're ready to plug their next guy in and for them now, it's like, okay, you got a competition going on a little bit.

1001
01:04:36,260 --> 01:04:39,000
 So those are probably the two most interesting ones to me.

1002
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:43,180
 I think the other thing we're going to learn again, you've got six new coaches.

1003
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,140
 You, you, you address some of this in one of your columns on Monday morning.

1004
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:55,660
 Quarterback is maybe this will give us a little bit more of an ideal about the talent, as you said, on the teams.

1005
01:04:55,660 --> 01:05:01,600
 And I think strength of weaknesses, and again, coaches are not going to come out and say, look, we're going to stink at linebacker.

1006
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:07,680
 But I think you may get a little bit of an ideal about what positions that they need to shore up.

1007
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,800
 On Monday, Josh Heupel's there.

1008
01:05:10,980 --> 01:05:18,760
 And as you noted, you know, he's going to be asked about, well, how do you, but you know, how successful will Alex Goldich be at Auburn?

1009
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:26,920
 Well, you know, I can talk about that because he coached for me and beat Alabama twice, by the way, at least once while he was there.

1010
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:33,580
 And then you mentioned Pete Golding was the most interesting coach for you among everybody.

1011
01:05:34,180 --> 01:05:39,620
 And it's not the fact that he and Dabo got into a social media thing about a recruit.

1012
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,440
 He, to me, is just a football coach.

1013
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,980
 Everybody tries to make him out to be more than what he is.

1014
01:05:47,660 --> 01:05:55,580
 You know, you tutor under Saban, then you go into Lane Kiffin, and even as crazy as Lane can be, he's a very good coach.

1015
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:57,060
 But no, you're right.

1016
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:01,000
 This is one of the more, I don't know what would be the word, open-ended.

1017
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:06,120
 But maybe we'll get a little more information about these teams next week.

1018
01:06:06,620 --> 01:06:12,800
 Yeah, and to me, it seemed like Pete Golding has been going out of his way to try to be more than just a football coach.

1019
01:06:12,980 --> 01:06:13,140
 Yeah.

1020
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,060
 And to me, that's what you can't be.

1021
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,480
 If that's who you are, just be that guy.

1022
01:06:17,660 --> 01:06:17,980
 Be it.

1023
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:23,340
 And it feels like he's trying to get into some of these wars with other guys and do those things.

1024
01:06:23,340 --> 01:06:26,680
 And, you know, how much does that impact you, the distraction?

1025
01:06:26,940 --> 01:06:27,840
 Hey, now it's your team.

1026
01:06:28,060 --> 01:06:29,320
 Your play caller's gone.

1027
01:06:29,780 --> 01:06:32,180
 You know, all these people, like, it's going to be a little different.

1028
01:06:32,300 --> 01:06:34,460
 And all of a sudden now, he had no pressure.

1029
01:06:34,580 --> 01:06:36,920
 There was zero pressure when he coached in the playoffs.

1030
01:06:37,100 --> 01:06:37,400
 Zero.

1031
01:06:37,700 --> 01:06:37,900
 Right.

1032
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,800
 And now you go, okay, now people expect you to be good again.

1033
01:06:40,980 --> 01:06:41,400
 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

1034
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:45,980
 And you spent some money, and you've gone out to say you're still the portal kings and all these things.

1035
01:06:46,100 --> 01:06:49,960
 I'm like, there's a lot of interesting dynamics in this one.

1036
01:06:50,900 --> 01:06:59,680
 Like I said, then you go, you know, Texas, Georgia feels like the two teams that are going into this a cut above.

1037
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,060
 You know, with A&M kind of right there.

1038
01:07:01,140 --> 01:07:07,260
 And then you go in Alabama, and, you know, it feels like a little bit the next kind of group there.

1039
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:08,280
 But they're right there, too.

1040
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:18,240
 And, you know, you look and go Georgia and Texas and Texas A&M, the three most solidified quarterback groups in this league right now.

1041
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:18,380
 Right.

1042
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:19,920
 And I think that's a big deal.

1043
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:24,480
 And so, yeah, there's going to be a lot of attention on those teams especially.

1044
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:31,420
 And, you know, I kind of feel like the same thing about Texas A&M where you go, can he continue to just be himself?

1045
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,940
 And he is the definition of just a football coach.

1046
01:07:34,620 --> 01:07:39,440
 Can you not get caught up into trying to be other guys?

1047
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,100
 Kirby Smart's done a good job.

1048
01:07:41,420 --> 01:07:50,680
 Kirby Smart has leaned the other way, which is, you know, my dog, I'm going to keep reminding you that I don't care about any of these other things, even when you know he does.

1049
01:07:50,680 --> 01:08:00,380
 I mean, like, you know, he goes out of his way to get – he learned from Nick Saban very well, which is I'm just going to be huff and gruff about everything that goes on.

1050
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:08,340
 Meanwhile, you know they're good, and, you know, and so I can't wait to hear them say about being an underdog in a game this year or something like that.

1051
01:08:08,340 --> 01:08:09,320
 I'm sure that'll be brought up.

1052
01:08:11,260 --> 01:08:15,020
 But, no, it's, you know, it's the media days now for me.

1053
01:08:15,140 --> 01:08:20,460
 It's like how much can you go learn about teams because, like, I'm doing previews of teams, and every time I do it, I go,

1054
01:08:20,580 --> 01:08:28,100
 I didn't remember that guy being there, or I thought he left, or, hey, I thought – I remember that guy playing it, you know, in high school 17 years ago.

1055
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,680
 He's still playing football or whatever it is.

1056
01:08:31,460 --> 01:08:35,280
 Well, Jason, we all started with 14, so we're coming up on our 30th birthday.

1057
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:36,120
 That's the way that works.

1058
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,000
 Jason, Caldwell, Auburn undercover.

1059
01:08:38,460 --> 01:08:40,380
 You mentioned an interesting fact here about Golding.

1060
01:08:40,440 --> 01:08:42,140
 Everybody loves the first-year coach.

1061
01:08:42,220 --> 01:08:43,360
 The honeymoon is on.

1062
01:08:43,940 --> 01:08:48,940
 They haven't spilled the milk yet and had the wife tell them about spilling the milk and other things, not boiling the grass, et cetera.

1063
01:08:49,100 --> 01:08:51,720
 But here's the test on these first-year coaches.

1064
01:08:51,980 --> 01:08:54,460
 Everything's going to go well as long as you win.

1065
01:08:54,540 --> 01:08:55,600
 Boy, that's deep, is it not?

1066
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:59,880
 But the problem is going to come after that loss, especially that unexpected loss.

1067
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:06,960
 See, Coach DeBoer and Vanderbilt, to me, it's a test of how thick your skin is after that, if that makes sense.

1068
01:09:07,100 --> 01:09:12,420
 Jason, of the new kids on the block, who, in your opinion, is going to have the best first year as a head coach in the SEC?

1069
01:09:13,220 --> 01:09:30,360
 Yeah, no, you look and, you know, it's interesting because the thing you don't know, and like I said, I said this this week on our podcast, but the thing you don't know is when you have 16 teams, what does the schedule look like at the end of the year?

1070
01:09:30,660 --> 01:09:31,020
 Right.

1071
01:09:31,580 --> 01:09:35,200
 Because, you know, you look at it going into the year and you're going, man, that's right.

1072
01:09:35,340 --> 01:09:38,920
 You know, this FDI garbage, all these things, like it means zero.

1073
01:09:39,480 --> 01:09:41,080
 Because you don't know what that team is going to be.

1074
01:09:41,440 --> 01:09:51,980
 Because I said, I compared it this year, Auburn baseball, and you go into the year, and you go, man, you miss LSU, and you miss Vandy, and you miss South Carolina, and you miss Tennessee, and you're going, wow, that's awesome.

1075
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,520
 And three of those teams didn't make the NCAA tournament.

1076
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:55,280
 Yeah, wow.

1077
01:09:56,040 --> 01:10:00,080
 Like, those are teams that are winning national championships, and that's what you don't know.

1078
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:05,660
 You don't know what the schedule looks like when the dust has settled, and I think that's it.

1079
01:10:05,660 --> 01:10:24,720
 I mean, look, I think this Auburn team, because of Byron Brown coming with Alex Goldish and with the OC and with the offensive line coach, I think that, to me, gives you a chance to maybe not have the growing pain that some other programs might have with the first year.

1080
01:10:24,860 --> 01:10:26,520
 So, I think that's helpful.

1081
01:10:27,180 --> 01:10:30,060
 You know, and you got, like everybody, a couple of key games early.

1082
01:10:30,060 --> 01:10:41,040
 They can, you know, to me, if you can take care of business early and then you can beat Florida at home, you've got a chance to give yourself a little momentum and potentially go to Tennessee with a big game.

1083
01:10:41,180 --> 01:10:52,840
 And so, you look at, you know, Kentucky, you know, glowing remarks about Will Stein and some of the things he's done and brought in, but you just don't know with a new quarterback and a new system.

1084
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,620
 I mean, Arkansas is the same way.

1085
01:10:54,700 --> 01:10:58,660
 I mean, like, it is as much of a crapshoot as you can have.

1086
01:10:58,940 --> 01:11:05,200
 I mean, I guess technically Pete Golding would be a first-year guy, and so because of that, you'd probably have to put them up there.

1087
01:11:05,340 --> 01:11:19,560
 But I think you look and go, look, I think there's teams that are – I feel like about six to about 13 are going to be – you could almost shake them up in a bag and roll them out there.

1088
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,800
 But I think it's – just like it was last year.

1089
01:11:22,020 --> 01:11:28,560
 I mean, Auburn went five and seven and lost one game by ten points and six games by seven points or less.

1090
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:29,120
 Wow.

1091
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:31,780
 JC – yeah, go ahead, bud.

1092
01:11:32,220 --> 01:11:33,280
 I say that's the difference.

1093
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:40,800
 Can you – you win two or three of those games and all of a sudden you're eight and four and you're playing in the Outback Bowl and people are going, hey, man, we're the playoff team the next year.

1094
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:42,280
 I think it's that close.

1095
01:11:43,380 --> 01:11:47,980
 I think this is going to be a – I think the defense is going to be similar to last year.

1096
01:11:47,980 --> 01:11:50,420
 D.J. Durkin's always going to have a good defense.

1097
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:52,540
 Kicking game's going to be solid.

1098
01:11:53,340 --> 01:11:59,280
 I think the offense is going to be much better than last year because they already know what their identity is.

1099
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,000
 But I keep going back to this.

1100
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:08,640
 Auburn has got – beginning with Florida, they have got the toughest six-game gauntlet in the country.

1101
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:20,500
 Now, I'm not slapping Arkansas, Mississippi State, but Florida, Vandy, Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Ole Miss, and three of those are on the road.

1102
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,120
 Show me a team that's got a tougher six-game stretch.

1103
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,700
 Yeah, no, I think that's the thing about this league now.

1104
01:12:28,780 --> 01:12:34,140
 You look at it and you go, Kali, everybody has these runs.

1105
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,300
 I looked at Mississippi State and I went, Kali, that's brutal.

1106
01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:42,560
 And, you know, you look and go, there's a bunch of them out there that when you start to go, what's that going to look like?

1107
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,940
 It's crazy, but I think there's a lot of them.

1108
01:12:47,700 --> 01:12:58,820
 But, yeah, no, there's some challenges along the way and can you survive it and, you know, right now, can you take care of the ones you're supposed to take care of?

1109
01:12:58,820 --> 01:13:05,880
 If you do that and then win a few along the way, then at the end of the year, you'll go, okay, we feel like you've got a chance to be successful.

1110
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,400
 A lot of great stuff on the side.

1111
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,300
 Top five position battles.

1112
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,540
 You looked at cornerback.

1113
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:17,480
 Kay and Lee, Jay Crawford gone, Pleasant coming back, would-be winners, et cetera.

1114
01:13:17,980 --> 01:13:23,080
 Gabe Gross moving to a new role in the athletic department with baseball.

1115
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:27,260
 A lot of news about baseball with Major League Baseball draft, et cetera.

1116
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:29,600
 And then get ready for media days.

1117
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:34,640
 JC, where can we get online to get your stuff, Nathan's, and the team's?

1118
01:13:35,180 --> 01:13:35,720
 Yeah, yeah.

1119
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:40,540
 Having seen today, we're now, instead of auburnundercover.com,

1120
01:13:40,540 --> 01:13:42,660
 we're officially auburn247.com.

1121
01:13:42,660 --> 01:13:42,920
 Okay.

1122
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,420
 I love, I love, I love that move.

1123
01:13:45,500 --> 01:13:46,800
 We're auburn247.com.

1124
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:48,720
 Nothing else has changed.

1125
01:13:48,900 --> 01:13:50,500
 We're still part of Paramount CBS.

1126
01:13:51,300 --> 01:13:55,860
 So, still got the Paramount Plus subscription with our site as well.

1127
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:57,540
 Auburn247.com.

1128
01:13:57,620 --> 01:14:00,320
 So, it's easy, it is easy, just go auburn247.com.

1129
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 Find us there.

1130
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,900
 All those social media platforms, auburn247.com as well.

1131
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,400
 So, made the streamlined move today.

1132
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:11,300
 And so, you're right, we've got a ton of stuff up today.

1133
01:14:11,500 --> 01:14:14,240
 We've got some more basketball thoughts coming in the next couple of days.

1134
01:14:14,780 --> 01:14:17,740
 But some insider things today and recruiting and more.

1135
01:14:17,740 --> 01:14:22,640
 So, come check us out and join us and be here for the ride.

1136
01:14:23,340 --> 01:14:24,220
 Sounds great, Jason.

1137
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,740
 By the way, Brett is still known as Brett Romeo Beard.

1138
01:14:27,340 --> 01:14:27,620
 Oh, yeah.

1139
01:14:27,660 --> 01:14:28,260
 No question.

1140
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:29,600
 Nothing has changed.

1141
01:14:29,740 --> 01:14:30,760
 Nothing has changed.

1142
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:31,100
 Nothing has changed.

1143
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:31,600
 That's right.

1144
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,660
 Hey, listen, say, travelers are heading down, and let's do it again soon, okay?

1145
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:36,720
 Thanks, guys.

1146
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:36,860
 Appreciate it.

1147
01:14:36,860 --> 01:14:37,280
 Thank you, bud.

1148
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 Coming up, he's always Mr. College Football TV.

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1206
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1207
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1208
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1209
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1210
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1211
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1213
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1215
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1217
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 The Score.

1241
01:19:01,060 --> 01:19:05,640
 Now, back with Boomo Bugg on 93.9 The Score.

1242
01:19:06,300 --> 01:19:07,100
 Welcome back in.

1243
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:13,140
 You know it's getting so close, you can almost reach out and touch it when you say the name Tony Barnard.

1244
01:19:13,140 --> 01:19:19,860
 Mr. College Football, board member for the Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year Foundation, noted author of the 19 of green.

1245
01:19:20,420 --> 01:19:21,440
 Tony, welcome in.

1246
01:19:21,500 --> 01:19:22,040
 How are you?

1247
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:24,620
 I'm doing great, guys.

1248
01:19:24,780 --> 01:19:30,840
 I told somebody, and I told my wife back in May that this would be the fastest summer ever.

1249
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:31,740
 Well, guess what?

1250
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,660
 We all congregate in Tampa next week.

1251
01:19:37,260 --> 01:19:42,860
 Yeah, Tony, before we jump into that, did I see it, if I'm wrong, and I definitely hope that I am.

1252
01:19:42,860 --> 01:19:46,960
 I mean, don't hear that often from men, but certainly in this case, this is where I hope I am.

1253
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:48,860
 Did I see, we mentioned the 19 of green.

1254
01:19:48,940 --> 01:19:52,620
 Did you recently lose one of your family members there?

1255
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:54,620
 Unfortunately, we did.

1256
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,700
 We've lost two this summer.

1257
01:19:56,900 --> 01:20:02,580
 We lost, on the cover of the book, the team picture, we lost number 22, Al Kaysen.

1258
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:07,780
 And we lost, just a week ago, we lost Tommy Moon, who was our starting center.

1259
01:20:08,260 --> 01:20:14,080
 And so, I gave the eulogy for Al, and it was tough.

1260
01:20:14,380 --> 01:20:15,040
 It was tough.

1261
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:19,540
 But, yeah, we've lost two of the 19 of green in the past month.

1262
01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:25,200
 Talk to us about the 19 of green before we jump into it, because, Tony, here's the bottom line.

1263
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,800
 There's a lot of guys right now listening to this, and they say, amen, brother.

1264
01:20:29,460 --> 01:20:33,220
 A lot of people don't go to class reunions because they don't recognize anybody.

1265
01:20:34,140 --> 01:20:39,560
 Over the years, people change, which is another way of saying, don't blink, life gets by in a hurry.

1266
01:20:40,180 --> 01:20:45,680
 And your book, 19 of green, to me, should be kind of a go-to book to kind of put things in perspective.

1267
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,900
 Well, I'll give you a great example.

1268
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:50,480
 Charles Turner was our quarterback.

1269
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:56,420
 His book was about the 1970 high school football season, Green County High School.

1270
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,540
 There was a black school and a white school, and those schools merged.

1271
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:05,520
 And for the first time, a lot of us had African-black friends.

1272
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:10,720
 Charles Turner was our quarterback, came over from Florida T. Corey High School.

1273
01:21:11,300 --> 01:21:13,560
 And here, 50 years later, he and I stay in touch.

1274
01:21:13,740 --> 01:21:19,080
 I talked to him three days ago, and I talk about Tommy Moon.

1275
01:21:19,860 --> 01:21:26,480
 And so, yeah, we're not here very long, guys, and for the time we have.

1276
01:21:27,020 --> 01:21:28,300
 That's exactly right.

1277
01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:36,720
 And, Tony, SEC Media Days next week, I think a lot of people are interested in getting to know six of the new coaches.

1278
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,380
 They certainly know some of them.

1279
01:21:39,060 --> 01:21:43,900
 Some of the new players, the strength and weaknesses of the teams.

1280
01:21:45,180 --> 01:21:50,300
 I know Kentucky, Missouri, Oklahoma, and Tennessee get everything started on Monday.

1281
01:21:50,540 --> 01:21:57,580
 Tony, what coach are you particularly interested in or maybe the most intrigued by?

1282
01:21:57,820 --> 01:22:02,100
 I know, Greg, Sankey's State of the State will be interesting Monday.

1283
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,480
 What are you looking forward to next week?

1284
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:12,280
 Well, you mentioned there are five new coaches, six if you count going at Ole Miss.

1285
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:21,600
 I think John Summerall, the head coach at Florida, is the one that's really intriguing to me because they have a good roster.

1286
01:22:22,140 --> 01:22:24,200
 This guy's won every place he's ever been.

1287
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,860
 And I think Florida might have a better year than a lot of people think.

1288
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:36,800
 I think the other thing that everybody's going to be following next week, Lane Kiffin, who makes his debut at LSU.

1289
01:22:37,460 --> 01:22:47,380
 What's that going to be like with a $40 million roster and all those things that, as Coach Kiffin once said, enjoy it.

1290
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,000
 Make sure you get your popcorn.

1291
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:54,140
 Tony, I thought of you this morning.

1292
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,380
 I saw one of these lists these people come out with.

1293
01:22:56,440 --> 01:22:58,260
 I have no idea how to come up with it.

1294
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,400
 But they had the best coaches in America.

1295
01:23:00,540 --> 01:23:03,460
 And they had that guy in Indiana, number one.

1296
01:23:03,460 --> 01:23:08,980
 And that guy down the road from you, number two, Cignetti or a guy named Smart?

1297
01:23:09,260 --> 01:23:11,720
 Tony, I know he's the latest flavor.

1298
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:13,560
 He won a national championship last year.

1299
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,140
 To me, two things can be true at the same time.

1300
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:16,960
 Yeah, that was good.

1301
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,600
 But the question is, who's the best coach long-term?

1302
01:23:20,420 --> 01:23:24,180
 Well, I think you determine that on a consistency basis.

1303
01:23:24,180 --> 01:23:25,720
 What do you do over the long haul?

1304
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:31,080
 And he's the fourth winningest coach in Georgia football history.

1305
01:23:31,220 --> 01:23:32,500
 He's only been there 11 years.

1306
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:33,400
 Right.

1307
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:33,900
 Wow.

1308
01:23:33,980 --> 01:23:35,200
 I've got to tell you something.

1309
01:23:35,620 --> 01:23:37,260
 And he's going to have another good team.

1310
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,640
 My Georgia friends complained when they got beat by Ole Miss.

1311
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:41,400
 Of course.

1312
01:23:42,540 --> 01:23:46,340
 Guys, he's won three of the last five SEC championships.

1313
01:23:46,340 --> 01:23:47,420
 Yeah, but Tony.

1314
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:49,580
 Two national championships.

1315
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:50,600
 I know, but.

1316
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,620
 And he's got another really good team.

1317
01:23:53,780 --> 01:23:54,920
 So, we will see.

1318
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:58,220
 But, you know, what they have done at Iowa is great.

1319
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 It's a tremendous accomplishment.

1320
01:24:00,700 --> 01:24:04,820
 But over the long haul, Kirby Smart has proven.

1321
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 With the retirement of Nick Saban, I don't think it's any question

1322
01:24:09,740 --> 01:24:12,160
 that Kirby Smart's the best coach in college.

1323
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 Tony, the proverbial question,

1324
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 who's the sleeper in the SEC will be asked countless times next week in Tampa.

1325
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 And you can bring up a lot of guys, Missouri, with drink, Eli Drink,

1326
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 with Oklahoma, and John Mateer stays healthy.

1327
01:24:30,820 --> 01:24:34,660
 You mentioned Florida with Jon Sumrall, Auburn, Vandy.

1328
01:24:35,140 --> 01:24:38,380
 Who's Tony Barnhart's, quote, sleeper this year?

1329
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:40,240
 I like Texas A&M.

1330
01:24:40,940 --> 01:24:43,720
 They came close to having a big season last season.

1331
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 They have Marcel Reed, their quarterback, back.

1332
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 And I think Mike Elko's a really good football coach.

1333
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 We will see that some strong early games A&M has got to be involved in.

1334
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 As a matter of fact, I went to A&M, went to their Midnight Yell,

1335
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 something that they've been on my bucket list forever.

1336
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 And I flew in, and they took me on a tour of it.

1337
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 It was incredible.

1338
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 So, I like Texas A&M as my dark horse.

1339
01:25:11,620 --> 01:25:13,240
 Tony Barnhart, Mr. College Football.

1340
01:25:13,460 --> 01:25:14,720
 Tony, you know where we live.

1341
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:21,020
 So, where do you put the Alabama Crimson Tide and the Auburn Tigers once we get down to business?

1342
01:25:21,900 --> 01:25:26,120
 Well, I'm intrigued by what they're going to do at Auburn.

1343
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 Obviously, the goal is coming in.

1344
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:34,860
 The head coach, Brian Brown, is going to be a great player.

1345
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 Led the nation's total offense last year.

1346
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 So, I'm fascinated.

1347
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 But I'm really intrigued by Alabama.

1348
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 You know, it's a playoff team.

1349
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 And, you know, it's a team that looks like a playoff team again to me.

1350
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 And so, I think it's an interesting dynamic right now about where the Alabama people, where they're headed.

1351
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,640
 Tony, could Vandy be a surprise team?

1352
01:26:05,820 --> 01:26:07,180
 10-3 last year.

1353
01:26:07,300 --> 01:26:09,700
 Clark Lee has built a foundation there.

1354
01:26:10,420 --> 01:26:12,100
 Jerry Curtis is coming in.

1355
01:26:12,180 --> 01:26:14,620
 Is he going to replace Pavillon with Moxie?

1356
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 No.

1357
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 But he's a very talented five-star high school.

1358
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 Well, they've, of course, got two big games with Georgia and Alabama.

1359
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,800
 Your thoughts on what Vandy has morphed into now?

1360
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 Well, Clark Lee has built a football program.

1361
01:26:29,340 --> 01:26:32,120
 I talked to him a couple of times in the summer.

1362
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 He feels good about where they are now.

1363
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,240
 Diego Pambia is a generational player.

1364
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:38,380
 Yeah.

1365
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:39,740
 And he's gone.

1366
01:26:39,740 --> 01:26:45,540
 But everything I've seen says that Jerry Curtis is the next big thing.

1367
01:26:46,140 --> 01:26:47,480
 And so, the pressure is going to be there.

1368
01:26:47,660 --> 01:26:50,340
 Can he handle it as a freshman?

1369
01:26:50,500 --> 01:26:55,520
 If he can, they will be a team that will be hard to deal with.

1370
01:26:55,760 --> 01:27:00,700
 And so, it is nice that Vanderbilt is in this kind of conversation.

1371
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:01,080
 Yes.

1372
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:03,760
 Absolutely.

1373
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 I guarantee you.

1374
01:27:05,180 --> 01:27:06,240
 Let me ask you this.

1375
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:11,180
 As far as pressure, we have a lot of Tennessee folks as well, Tony.

1376
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 We know he came in.

1377
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 He's rocking and rolling.

1378
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 And it's almost like a plane.

1379
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 He got off the ground.

1380
01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:20,340
 But by Tennessee fan standards, Heupel has kind of leveled off.

1381
01:27:20,700 --> 01:27:22,880
 Your thoughts, how is he going to keep the dogs off?

1382
01:27:23,020 --> 01:27:27,240
 Not Smokey, but the other dogs off of him as far as numbers this season in Knoxville?

1383
01:27:28,140 --> 01:27:29,400
 Yeah, Tennessee is going to be fine.

1384
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 I mean, we all know what Josh Heupel can do.

1385
01:27:32,420 --> 01:27:37,640
 And it's a matter of rebuilding, building your roster back up.

1386
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 And so, I think they're going to be fine.

1387
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 I really do.

1388
01:27:41,460 --> 01:27:47,580
 And bringing in, this is, not a lot of people, bringing in Jim Knowles, the defensive coordinator.

1389
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:48,520
 Yes, that's him.

1390
01:27:48,620 --> 01:27:49,220
 That's big.

1391
01:27:49,340 --> 01:27:50,120
 That's huge.

1392
01:27:50,420 --> 01:27:54,320
 He's one of the top three or four D.C.'s in the country.

1393
01:27:54,940 --> 01:27:57,640
 And so, I think Tennessee is going to be all right.

1394
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:03,980
 Now, they've got to play at Georgia Tech early, I think the second season.

1395
01:28:05,780 --> 01:28:12,000
 Georgia Tech's rebuilding, but I'm telling you, that's a very well-coached team.

1396
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 Tennessee better be ready for them.

1397
01:28:13,780 --> 01:28:14,140
 Mm-hmm.

1398
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 Before we let you go, let me ask you about your books again.

1399
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,580
 Tell us again where we can get the 19 of green.

1400
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 It's an incredible book.

1401
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 And also, give us an update.

1402
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 Mr. College Football, 50 years of SEC memories.

1403
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 We talked with you about this last year.

1404
01:28:33,480 --> 01:28:37,440
 Will that come out in print by the end of the year, early next year?

1405
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 Where can we get?

1406
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 Go ahead.

1407
01:28:40,380 --> 01:28:42,300
 Well, it'll be early next year.

1408
01:28:43,100 --> 01:28:46,240
 But I spent a lot of time traveling last season for it.

1409
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 I went to Oklahoma, went to Texas A&M, went to Alabama, went to a lot of places.

1410
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,080
 And the book is done.

1411
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:55,000
 The book is done.

1412
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,240
 University of Georgia Press is publishing.

1413
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:02,580
 And we're in the process of gathering our photos and things right now.

1414
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:06,240
 So we're very excited with the way the book turned out.

1415
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 And it's just that.

1416
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 It's a memory book.

1417
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 It's not a list of the greatest players of all time.

1418
01:29:12,260 --> 01:29:18,240
 This is my personal memory and what it has meant to me.

1419
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 And I had a blast.

1420
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:24,400
 Steve Spurrier, Jerry Spurrier, my wife and Maria are good buddies.

1421
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 And they threw us a party in Gainesville, Florida, to celebrate my 50th year in the business.

1422
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 And Coach Spurrier's 80th year of being on the planet.

1423
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:36,340
 Well, we're excited about that.

1424
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,020
 But it'll be out.

1425
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:42,780
 UGA Press has slated it for next spring or summer.

1426
01:29:44,060 --> 01:29:45,560
 I just hear Coach Spurrier now.

1427
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:47,440
 Tony, don't tell him I made you, okay?

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 There's a great story in there.

1429
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 They got up to toast each other.

1430
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 And Coach Spurrier said his buddies didn't want him to toast me because, after all, he's a bulldog.

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 He said, well, that's okay.

1432
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:03,900
 Tony's okay.

1433
01:30:04,540 --> 01:30:08,120
 He's not like them, it's a word that I can't say on the radio.

1434
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 I bet.

1435
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 It begins with dumb.

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 He's not like those other dumb bulldogs we deal with.

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 He was social media before social media.

1438
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,280
 Tony, it's always good to catch you with you.

1439
01:30:19,380 --> 01:30:20,220
 Thank you so much.

1440
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:21,480
 And let's do it again soon, okay?

1441
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:22,460
 All right, guys.

1442
01:30:22,540 --> 01:30:22,820
 Take care.

1443
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:23,520
 Thank you, Tony.

1444
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 Tony Barnhart, hanging up with us.

1445
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 Meets you there as Mr. College Football.

1446
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 Quick story with Steve Spurrier.

1447
01:30:28,780 --> 01:30:29,900
 Flew down to Gainesville.

1448
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 Did a preseason report back years ago.

1449
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 And the SID was just terrified of Coach Spurrier.

1450
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 He didn't want to bring him over.

1451
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 And I explained to him the situation.

1452
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 So he goes over and he comes up on a golf cart and says, how are you doing?

1453
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:43,000
 How can I help you?

1454
01:30:43,260 --> 01:30:44,760
 Nicest guy in the world, BB.

1455
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 But he could present himself as a bear.

1456
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 Oh, yeah.

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 The one, the only, Steve Spurrier.

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1556
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:27,280
 The Score.

1557
01:36:27,740 --> 01:36:32,380
 Now, back with Boomo Bugg on 93.9 The Score.

1558
01:36:33,140 --> 01:36:33,900
 Welcome back in.

1559
01:36:33,940 --> 01:36:34,700
 He is busy.

1560
01:36:34,940 --> 01:36:35,860
 He is DD.

1561
01:36:35,860 --> 01:36:39,460
 Drew DeArmond, host of Talking Ball, and host with 97.7 FM The Zone.

1562
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:40,860
 Drew DeArmond, welcome in.

1563
01:36:40,900 --> 01:36:41,360
 How are you?

1564
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:42,740
 I'm good.

1565
01:36:42,820 --> 01:36:43,400
 How are you guys doing?

1566
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:43,700
 Hey, buddy.

1567
01:36:43,820 --> 01:36:44,680
 Man, we're doing all right.

1568
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:48,020
 Are you resting up for the storm next week in Tampa, Florida?

1569
01:36:49,380 --> 01:36:50,700
 I'm getting ready, man.

1570
01:36:50,740 --> 01:36:51,620
 I'm looking forward to it.

1571
01:36:51,700 --> 01:36:53,740
 I've never been to Tampa before.

1572
01:36:53,940 --> 01:36:54,960
 You know, I've been to Orlando.

1573
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,580
 You know, Brett and I can tell you about that road trip.

1574
01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:58,580
 Yes, we can.

1575
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:00,660
 It was quite interesting.

1576
01:37:00,860 --> 01:37:04,260
 It was the Citrus Bowl in 2000, or excuse me, in 2019.

1577
01:37:04,260 --> 01:37:08,580
 And I would imagine that Jim Harbaugh hadn't stolen those signs yet

1578
01:37:08,580 --> 01:37:13,080
 because Alabama scored on the first play of the game and throttled the Wolverines.

1579
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:21,240
 And it was kind of a preview of what was to come in the fall because Alabama won the national championship the next year.

1580
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:27,900
 And Matt Jones proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was not going to lose the job to the great Bryce Young,

1581
01:37:28,100 --> 01:37:30,860
 even though Bryce was going to be there as a true freshman.

1582
01:37:31,860 --> 01:37:36,620
 You know, Matt was ready to go, and certainly he had played well in the Iron Bowl before that.

1583
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:40,860
 And certainly against Arkansas during that season.

1584
01:37:41,060 --> 01:37:44,200
 And it was just sort of a preview of what was to come.

1585
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,980
 And Alabama won that game against a good Michigan team.

1586
01:37:47,700 --> 01:37:54,100
 Najee Harris had a great game, then decided to come back to school, and it kind of set all the dominoes, you know,

1587
01:37:54,140 --> 01:37:59,480
 in play for Alabama to win their last national championship under Nick Saban in 2020.

1588
01:37:59,860 --> 01:38:02,360
 And now going to be headed out to Tampa.

1589
01:38:02,580 --> 01:38:03,740
 Looking forward to that.

1590
01:38:03,940 --> 01:38:08,800
 And, you know, I was asked earlier in the week, you know, who would represent Alabama, you know,

1591
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:09,940
 the three young men.

1592
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:10,920
 I got them all right.

1593
01:38:11,060 --> 01:38:15,640
 I thought it would be Bray, Zabian, and, of course, Ryan Coleman-Williams.

1594
01:38:15,740 --> 01:38:17,060
 And certainly it is.

1595
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:22,840
 I'm looking forward to seeing Alabama and everybody, all 16 teams, over in Tampa next week.

1596
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:24,440
 Absolutely.

1597
01:38:25,060 --> 01:38:29,280
 D2, we've talked about this, and the conversation will go on shortly through,

1598
01:38:29,420 --> 01:38:33,460
 probably mid-September when everything settles down.

1599
01:38:33,460 --> 01:38:40,780
 But the offensive line, William Sanders coming back, returning from an injury.

1600
01:38:41,440 --> 01:38:46,640
 If he is healthy, I think he certainly is competent to play left guard.

1601
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:50,400
 But who is for his competition there?

1602
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:53,060
 And we've talked about the offensive line with you.

1603
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:54,660
 That's going to be the key to this season.

1604
01:38:55,180 --> 01:38:57,640
 Can William Sanders hold that down if he's healthy?

1605
01:38:58,580 --> 01:39:00,080
 Well, I think he will.

1606
01:39:00,340 --> 01:39:02,560
 I think they're very confident in his ability.

1607
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:10,560
 You know, certainly he was banged up and wasn't able to get any reps there, you know, in spring practice.

1608
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:16,660
 But I think they've felt like, you know, since really the final third of last season,

1609
01:39:16,660 --> 01:39:20,100
 when he continued to work his way into the lineup more and more,

1610
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:25,840
 and then you started hearing a lot about him, about his progress in the offseason, certainly.

1611
01:39:26,100 --> 01:39:27,920
 And then, you know, spring practice rolled around.

1612
01:39:28,020 --> 01:39:30,440
 He wasn't able to take any reps.

1613
01:39:30,440 --> 01:39:36,980
 And, you know, certainly that is an ideal when you're trying to basically rebuild an offensive line from scratch.

1614
01:39:36,980 --> 01:39:39,900
 Because it was not a good O-line last year.

1615
01:39:39,980 --> 01:39:41,380
 I think we all understand that.

1616
01:39:41,820 --> 01:39:48,380
 But I will say, too, even though, you know, it was a struggle, they did have some guys, you know,

1617
01:39:48,500 --> 01:39:51,180
 like a Mike Carroll who they felt really good about.

1618
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:59,700
 But, you know, it's kind of an old face in a new place because Mike got a ton of reps, you know, inside at guard.

1619
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:01,820
 And I think ultimately that's where he's going to go.

1620
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:07,000
 Because Alabama was aggressive, you know, in the transfer portal, they went and got Javon James,

1621
01:40:07,500 --> 01:40:12,280
 a guy they played against from Mississippi State who I think is very likely to be the right tackle.

1622
01:40:13,180 --> 01:40:17,800
 You know, and then Jackson Lloyd was a guy that they were very, very high on coming out of high school.

1623
01:40:18,180 --> 01:40:23,660
 He wasn't ready to challenge Caden Crocker for the left tackle spot last year.

1624
01:40:23,660 --> 01:40:27,540
 But certainly he made a lot of progress, and I think he had a solid spring.

1625
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:36,280
 And then, of course, you also have to factor in, you know, certainly the change at offensive line coach with Adrian Clem,

1626
01:40:36,660 --> 01:40:37,420
 new coach.

1627
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,680
 And I know some people say, well, it's the same system.

1628
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:46,280
 But still, yeah, and here's where that doesn't jive.

1629
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:51,300
 Because what we heard for 17 years under Nick Saban, even though they did make changes,

1630
01:40:51,480 --> 01:40:54,940
 especially offensively, is it was always Nick Saban's offense.

1631
01:40:55,300 --> 01:40:59,280
 Well, this is Kaelin DeBoer's offense, but, you know, coaching matters.

1632
01:40:59,500 --> 01:41:03,360
 And certainly a new voice there, I think, is going to help the offensive line.

1633
01:41:03,500 --> 01:41:09,180
 And I do think Javon James, while he may also be a backup to Jackson Lloyd at left tackle,

1634
01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:14,640
 I do think he'll eventually, he's going to be the right, or he is going to be the right tackle.

1635
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:18,020
 I think, you know, they brought in some freshmen like a Bryson Cooley.

1636
01:41:18,380 --> 01:41:22,680
 I think they definitely, and I have to go, guys, we're going to have to reprogram ourselves.

1637
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:24,240
 We can't say red-shirting anymore.

1638
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:24,920
 Yeah, that's right.

1639
01:41:25,060 --> 01:41:26,040
 There's five years.

1640
01:41:26,260 --> 01:41:30,880
 So, I think he will continue to develop, let's just say, behind Jackson Lloyd.

1641
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:36,660
 But I think Jackson Lloyd is going to be a, you know, they consider him still, I guess, a red-shirt freshman.

1642
01:41:36,660 --> 01:41:38,120
 He's really a sophomore.

1643
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:40,800
 But Jackson Lloyd looks like he's ready to go.

1644
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:45,960
 I think, you know, Nick Brooks got some looks there at left guard in the spring.

1645
01:41:46,100 --> 01:41:47,320
 And Nick Brooks is versatile.

1646
01:41:47,860 --> 01:41:50,200
 He can also play the right tackle spot.

1647
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:54,320
 He's a transfer, of course, via Buford High School from Texas.

1648
01:41:55,080 --> 01:42:00,380
 Caden Strayhorn is another one that I think you could get some looks at both center and guard.

1649
01:42:00,740 --> 01:42:05,160
 But I think as far as Jackson Lloyd, David James, I think they're going to be your tackle.

1650
01:42:05,700 --> 01:42:10,140
 I think Sanders and certainly who we just got to be talking about, Michael Carroll,

1651
01:42:10,420 --> 01:42:11,500
 is going to be the guard.

1652
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:15,940
 And then I think Racine Delgatti, who, by the way, Delgatti showed a lot of toughness.

1653
01:42:16,020 --> 01:42:20,300
 He had a little bit of a shoulder issue that he practiced through in the spring.

1654
01:42:20,440 --> 01:42:25,380
 That was, I think, correct to be a surgery in the offseason right after spring practice.

1655
01:42:25,620 --> 01:42:27,160
 So, he should be ready to go.

1656
01:42:27,380 --> 01:42:33,320
 And he's got big shoes to fill because Parker Brelscher is one of the better centers in college football last year.

1657
01:42:33,380 --> 01:42:35,600
 But I think they feel like he's a really good fit.

1658
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,660
 And then don't forget the Ole Miss transfer, Ethan Field.

1659
01:42:38,660 --> 01:42:39,020
 Yeah.

1660
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:42,300
 I think he's another one that will compete at guard.

1661
01:42:42,300 --> 01:42:49,660
 But ultimately, when you're going guard to guard, I think William Sanders, Christine Delgatti, and Michael Carroll will be the interior.

1662
01:42:50,180 --> 01:42:57,660
 And then Jackson Lloyd and Michael Carroll, or excuse me, Jackson Lloyd and David James, pardon me, will be your first five.

1663
01:42:58,660 --> 01:43:13,560
 In the huddle with Rudy, I think when DeBoer takes the podium and he's facing the questions, would it be fair to say that some of the questions are going to be, in the offseason, did you develop a tougher attitude compared to the last two seasons overall?

1664
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:23,080
 And what would you say to those who say, after a big game like Georgia, or have you learned anything, maybe going forward taking on a Vandy or an Oklahoma?

1665
01:43:23,700 --> 01:43:29,040
 In other words, can you put back-to-back games and not just put all your eggs in one basket, but be more consistent across the schedule?

1666
01:43:29,580 --> 01:43:35,360
 Well, I mean, I think that's probably the biggest question going in, is being more consistent.

1667
01:43:35,580 --> 01:43:39,760
 Though, I will say, after they lost to Florida State, they won seven games in a row.

1668
01:43:40,220 --> 01:43:51,620
 And if it hadn't been for some special teams meltdowns, and then one of the few big mistakes that Ty Simpson made a year ago, which is that pick-six he threw against Oklahoma.

1669
01:43:51,620 --> 01:43:53,280
 He didn't make many of those mistakes.

1670
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:58,220
 You know, Oklahoma had to have everything go right to win that game.

1671
01:43:58,660 --> 01:44:02,540
 Because, honestly, when you look at the stats, they got completely outplayed.

1672
01:44:02,620 --> 01:44:04,380
 But Alabama beat themselves.

1673
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:09,520
 But I will say, I thought Alabama responded after that as well.

1674
01:44:09,620 --> 01:44:16,340
 When you go to Oklahoma, spot them 17, and then win the playoff game, I think that answered a lot of questions.

1675
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:22,920
 I think a lot of the frustration over Indiana is overblown.

1676
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:28,380
 Because, look, I mean, whether it was 38-3 or 10-3, they lost.

1677
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:28,960
 Okay?

1678
01:44:29,060 --> 01:44:30,580
 You lost to the national champ.

1679
01:44:30,980 --> 01:44:33,200
 Certainly, you didn't like losing the way you did.

1680
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:37,080
 But the bottom line is, Indiana was the better football team that day.

1681
01:44:37,480 --> 01:44:38,980
 They were going to be the better football team.

1682
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,140
 I didn't expect Alabama to win that game.

1683
01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:48,740
 So, you know, you have to – you know, I certainly believe that finishing is going to be a big mantra, you know,

1684
01:44:48,780 --> 01:44:52,400
 heading into this ball camp and being better and more consistent.

1685
01:44:52,660 --> 01:44:54,080
 But I'll just say this, too.

1686
01:44:54,220 --> 01:44:57,860
 People want to call it an excuse, but it's not.

1687
01:44:58,000 --> 01:44:58,660
 It's a fact.

1688
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:01,340
 Alabama was kind of a shell of themselves.

1689
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:03,140
 They were injured.

1690
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:03,980
 They were hurt.

1691
01:45:04,300 --> 01:45:06,280
 And I think that's why they went out.

1692
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:08,560
 They were a little more aggressive in the transfer portal.

1693
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:11,200
 And then they wanted to retain a lot of guys.

1694
01:45:11,420 --> 01:45:17,280
 And then I think it was key to retain the majority of its coaching staff because I'm telling you,

1695
01:45:17,340 --> 01:45:22,320
 when you change coaches in this climate, you've seen so many new players on each team.

1696
01:45:22,740 --> 01:45:24,860
 Continuity can be a real big key to this.

1697
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:27,660
 And I think Alabama's got a very solid roster.

1698
01:45:28,480 --> 01:45:31,720
 You know, and I think they're starting to develop some depth.

1699
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:36,140
 Certainly, you'd like to develop a second offensive line that you can down on.

1700
01:45:36,140 --> 01:45:39,440
 Because if you get guys hurt, you need guys ready to go.

1701
01:45:39,580 --> 01:45:42,640
 But we've already talked about Javon James and his versatility.

1702
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:46,500
 I think he's good enough to play both tackle spots if needed.

1703
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:49,600
 We talked about Nick Brooks playing both guard and tackle.

1704
01:45:50,820 --> 01:45:55,080
 Strayhorn from the transfer from Michigan playing both center and guard.

1705
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:58,640
 Casey Poe, he played some left guard in the spring.

1706
01:45:58,740 --> 01:46:02,400
 He was a little rough when, you know, he kind of struggled out there.

1707
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:04,980
 You know, so we'll see what kind of progress he makes.

1708
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:07,720
 And then Ty Haywood, another Michigan transfer.

1709
01:46:07,860 --> 01:46:11,220
 I think he's got ability to play both tackle spots, too.

1710
01:46:11,380 --> 01:46:16,380
 So, I think they can develop, you know, a good offensive line based on what they have.

1711
01:46:16,460 --> 01:46:19,760
 And certainly, I felt like they had two really good players last year.

1712
01:46:19,820 --> 01:46:23,560
 They're both going to start in the NFL in Parker Brelsford and Caden Proctor.

1713
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:28,160
 The other guys, I just don't think, you know, they had a very good production.

1714
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:29,660
 And I think that was a lot.

1715
01:46:29,780 --> 01:46:31,920
 That had a lot to do with the offensive struggle.

1716
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:37,160
 So, if Adrian Clinton's going to come in here and get these guys to jail and they're better,

1717
01:46:37,540 --> 01:46:42,080
 I think there's enough skill talent, both at the wide receiver spot, tight end,

1718
01:46:42,420 --> 01:46:44,300
 and at running back to be a good offense.

1719
01:46:44,740 --> 01:46:46,040
 And I'll just say this.

1720
01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:48,860
 I mean, some will worry because they don't have experience.

1721
01:46:48,860 --> 01:46:56,140
 But after you saw, you know, them get Jalen Milro drafted, which I think in hindsight was a minor miracle.

1722
01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:04,240
 And then when you get him drafted in the third round, and then you see what they did with Ty Simpson in one year.

1723
01:47:04,580 --> 01:47:10,020
 When he came into last year, while he was a redshirt junior, he had no game experience.

1724
01:47:10,180 --> 01:47:12,540
 And he developed into a first-round pick.

1725
01:47:12,540 --> 01:47:22,180
 I have supreme confidence after they were able to develop Milro and develop in a year and develop, you know, Ty Simpson,

1726
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:28,160
 that whether it's Keelan Russell or Austin Mack, I think they're going to be very productive at the quarterback spot.

1727
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:33,700
 But the consistency will come if they're better along the offensive line.

1728
01:47:33,700 --> 01:47:40,840
 Because I think the offensive line struggles had a lot to do with the offensive inconsistency a year ago.

1729
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:42,520
 I think you're exactly right.

1730
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:45,860
 D2, just about time for SEC media days.

1731
01:47:46,020 --> 01:47:52,460
 But if you know it's time for media days, it's also time for high school media days.

1732
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:57,880
 I know we've been talking with some of the coaches, and we'll continue to do that throughout the summer.

1733
01:47:58,460 --> 01:48:03,280
 97.7 had very good media days at Toyota Field.

1734
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:06,300
 I know y'all talk to a lot of coaches, a lot of players.

1735
01:48:06,860 --> 01:48:09,400
 Going to be here next time we turn around, my friend.

1736
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:12,160
 Safe travels to Tampa.

1737
01:48:12,740 --> 01:48:18,780
 But where can we get online and get some of the interviews you had on Monday and also listen to the show?

1738
01:48:19,780 --> 01:48:20,520
 Yeah, absolutely.

1739
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:26,460
 And we've got a little bit of breaking recruiting news as well coming on to your show, just as I was coming off of the segment.

1740
01:48:26,980 --> 01:48:33,600
 Alabama has flipped Cedric Simmons, the Selma wide receiver from Auburn to Alabama.

1741
01:48:33,780 --> 01:48:38,200
 He committed to Auburn almost about three weeks ago.

1742
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:40,120
 It's not quite been a month yet.

1743
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:42,320
 It's closing in on that, but it would have been.

1744
01:48:42,440 --> 01:48:50,940
 But the wide receiver from Selma, who visited Alabama after his offer, he got offered, I think, June the 1st, and then visited in mid-June.

1745
01:48:51,380 --> 01:48:53,720
 A lot of people thought he was going to commit to Alabama then.

1746
01:48:54,220 --> 01:48:56,660
 He decided to commit to Auburn.

1747
01:48:56,900 --> 01:49:01,960
 I think a lot of that had to do with Alabama still recruiting Munchon Sales and some other targets.

1748
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:07,520
 And now Sales certainly looks like he's going to – I think he's going to end up at Maryland.

1749
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:10,060
 And then they get Orsani Gales committed.

1750
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:11,260
 He's now a five-star.

1751
01:49:11,740 --> 01:49:18,120
 Cedric Simmons led the state in receiving last year 20 touchdowns, you know, 106 catches over 2,000 yards.

1752
01:49:18,300 --> 01:49:19,860
 So he's now committed to Alabama.

1753
01:49:20,020 --> 01:49:21,180
 That's their 14th commitment.

1754
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:23,360
 So nice split for Cael and DeBoer.

1755
01:49:23,500 --> 01:49:27,820
 And certainly we look forward to maybe discussing that on Talking Ball absolutely tomorrow.

1756
01:49:27,820 --> 01:49:33,600
 But if you want to, you know, connect with us, certainly you can listen to us 7 to 10 a.m.

1757
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:37,820
 Monday through Friday on ESPN 97.7 The Zone.

1758
01:49:37,900 --> 01:49:45,480
 If you miss any of our content, of course, you can go to our SoundCloud page, 97.7 The Zone, ESPN 97.7 The Zone,

1759
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:48,960
 and then 977ESPN.com on the website.

1760
01:49:49,100 --> 01:49:54,520
 But we certainly look forward to being in Tampa and being around a lot of these great coaches and athletes.

1761
01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:58,540
 It should be a fun week, and we always look forward to being on the Boomo Bugg Show,

1762
01:49:58,620 --> 01:50:02,960
 and we appreciate the opportunity to Talking Ball with you today.

1763
01:50:03,860 --> 01:50:04,720
 Sounds great, Drew.

1764
01:50:04,780 --> 01:50:05,480
 I echo the sentiment.

1765
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:07,540
 Safe travels to and from, and thanks so much.

1766
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:09,300
 Now, let's do it again soon, okay?

1767
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:10,840
 Thank you, guys.

1768
01:50:10,980 --> 01:50:11,500
 Thank you, buddy.

1769
01:50:11,860 --> 01:50:12,480
 There you have it.

1770
01:50:12,660 --> 01:50:14,800
 Drew DeArma, 97.7 FM The Zone.

1771
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:19,780
 If you're driving down the road and you're not going through Winslow, Arizona, Alabama,

1772
01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:22,660
 and we've been talking about this now for about two or three days,

1773
01:50:22,660 --> 01:50:26,720
 and just moments ago, Cedric Simmons flipping from Auburn to Alabama.

1774
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:29,180
 He's only a three-star, but here's the bottom line, B.B.

1775
01:50:29,980 --> 01:50:32,240
 Auburn right now, they are thin at that spot.

1776
01:50:32,380 --> 01:50:36,080
 So this is big news for both Alabama and Auburn, B.B.

1777
01:50:36,220 --> 01:50:43,880
 Yeah, Simmons, even though he's a three-star, 5'10", 195, Southside Salma, very talented receiver.

1778
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:50,920
 I think he will eventually end up being a four-star, 2,100 yards receiving last year, so that's quite impressive.

1779
01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:56,820
 But, yeah, Alabama flipping Cedric Simmons from Southside Salma over to the Tide.

1780
01:50:56,820 --> 01:51:02,100
 In case you missed it, AL4, NL0 in the Major League Baseball All-Star Game.

1781
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:05,620
 The Braves off tonight, off tomorrow night.

1782
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:10,540
 We'll get back in action Friday night against those Rangers over at the Chop Shop.

1783
01:51:10,740 --> 01:51:11,720
 Enjoy the downtime.

1784
01:51:11,980 --> 01:51:13,420
 That's going to take care of business for now.

1785
01:51:13,500 --> 01:51:15,960
 On behalf of B.B., Greg, James Blair, the entire crew here,

1786
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,280
 Harold Bogg, thank you so much for your time today.

1787
01:51:18,380 --> 01:51:20,260
 Let's do it again tomorrow, noon to 2, for the B.M.O.

1788
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:23,080
 Buck Show, back here on Sports Radio, 93.9, The Score.

