1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,680
 Now, get ready to roll Shoals, Decatur, Athens and all of Northwest Alabama and Southern Tennessee. It's time for the Valley's Exclusive FM Sports Voice.

2
00:00:15,580 --> 00:00:29,980
 The Boomo Bugg Show. New Exclusive Inside Track to the Tide, Tigers, Tennessee and the rest of the SEC. Now your host, Harold Bugg on 93.9 The Score.

3
00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:48,220
 Good afternoon and welcome here to the Boomo Bugg Show. I'm Harold Bugg alongside Brett Beaird. Thank you so much for giving us your ride around the Tennessee Valley. Brett Beaird, welcome in. Where the question of the day is, are you ready for a double shot of the Braves today and tonight? Good afternoon. Welcome in and how are you?

4
00:00:48,220 --> 00:00:59,160
 Happy Wednesday. Well, we better, in fact, the Braves coming up here at about 12.45. Got rained out last night. Gonna be playing one this afternoon and then one tonight.

5
00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:07,500
 We're down to the final four in the College World Series. Georgia and Oklahoma, West Virginia and North Carolina.

6
00:01:08,300 --> 00:01:14,640
 Unfortunately, Troy had a bad game and lost to West Virginia. But my, oh, my, what a season they had.

7
00:01:15,140 --> 00:01:22,920
 Yeah, so there you have it. Getting down to the nitty-gritty. One thing is assured, BB, the SEC will play for the National Championship.

8
00:01:23,100 --> 00:01:28,900
 The question is who. A lot of lessons being learned in this World Series. And we've got a lot to unfold here.

9
00:01:28,900 --> 00:01:37,040
 But, BB, did you see the kid from Texas who had a perfect night one game comes back? And what is it with these kids now?

10
00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:45,460
 Is it a tick-tock? Is this a moment where they should get 15 seconds of fame by coming out and strutting their stuff like a proud rooster in an old country yard?

11
00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:53,460
 And then he gets 3-0, does what is going to give them some clicks on social media, and then embarrasses himself by striking out.

12
00:01:53,460 --> 00:01:59,400
 What's going on, BB, with some of these youngsters basically embarrassing themselves on the world stage?

13
00:01:59,500 --> 00:02:02,720
 Or does it matter anymore that you're embarrassed as long as you get the clicks?

14
00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:08,440
 Well, I'm sure that's some of it, Harold. But, again, some of these guys just get caught up in the moment.

15
00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:14,400
 And their teammates are egging them on from the dugout, and one thing leads to another.

16
00:02:14,940 --> 00:02:17,880
 So there you have it. Georgia basically coming out of the ashes.

17
00:02:18,460 --> 00:02:22,060
 Going to be playing for all the marbles. We're delving more into that, BB.

18
00:02:22,580 --> 00:02:24,800
 But, obviously, as we mentioned, a lot to get to today.

19
00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,100
 The Braves, your thoughts about the Braves last night?

20
00:02:29,660 --> 00:02:33,940
 One thing that got answered was, Baldwin, it was like he did not miss a beat.

21
00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,560
 Do you realize that he's been on the shelf for basically a month?

22
00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:45,860
 He still leads all National League catchers to be the starting backstop in the upcoming All-Star game.

23
00:02:46,100 --> 00:02:49,400
 And, by golly, guess what? They were leading last night.

24
00:02:49,460 --> 00:02:51,540
 He comes up, hits a home run, his first at bat.

25
00:02:51,620 --> 00:02:53,160
 So, obviously, that's a good sign.

26
00:02:53,740 --> 00:02:59,240
 But your thoughts about just not only having the lead, but then having a night off and now having to come back.

27
00:02:59,340 --> 00:03:04,380
 Alabama did it, if you remember, in the Super Regionals there with St. John's.

28
00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:09,560
 Your thoughts about the Braves getting ready for basically an old-fashioned doubleheader today.

29
00:03:09,820 --> 00:03:16,700
 Well, the thing about Baldwin is, Harold, he went out, I believe it was May 19th, came back last night.

30
00:03:16,820 --> 00:03:23,760
 Not only did he hit a home run, he hit the longest home run that's been hit in the major leagues this year.

31
00:03:24,900 --> 00:03:28,420
 Dad's center, 475 feet.

32
00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:29,180
 Wow.

33
00:03:29,180 --> 00:03:36,920
 And the other thing about Baldwin is, the catcher position for Atlanta, since he went out, they've had a grand total of three RBIs.

34
00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:43,080
 And I've been saying that, again, Austin Riley's got to begin to learn how to hit again.

35
00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:43,680
 Yeah.

36
00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:55,220
 You know, we're going to see what Acuna, what his situation is, his second or third time on a 10-day disabled list is what I used to call it.

37
00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,600
 But I think this is a key game for it.

38
00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:04,620
 The other thing about the Braves, Harold, they have not had a losing streak this year over three games.

39
00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:11,520
 And that's the reason they lead the major leagues right now, is they've been able to avoid a long losing streak.

40
00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,300
 Well, all you long-time baseball fans know this.

41
00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:20,600
 You get a team, and a lot of times, history shows that six seems to be the number of a team getting hot.

42
00:04:20,700 --> 00:04:24,940
 They'll win six, but the problem is, they'll end up after that losing four.

43
00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:31,560
 So, in terms of just numbers, they end up getting a net of only two games because what goes up does come down normally,

44
00:04:31,980 --> 00:04:34,040
 which tells you the Braves are having a good year.

45
00:04:34,420 --> 00:04:39,900
 And back to Baldwin, anyone who's played baseball knows, and I guarantee you, David Weathers knows this.

46
00:04:39,900 --> 00:04:45,140
 He's been on the mound in the majors, and nobody knows this better than David and anybody else that's been out there.

47
00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:47,020
 A catcher is more than a stick.

48
00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:54,420
 If you get a catcher, basically, if he hits .250, that's okay as long as he is an outstanding, not only defensive catcher,

49
00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,780
 but also knows how to call a game.

50
00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:03,720
 If you get somebody who, I mean, Johnny Bench is out there, right, or Molina, they know how to hit,

51
00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,820
 but they also know how to control that pitching staff.

52
00:05:05,900 --> 00:05:10,340
 And if they can get Baldwin back, and who would have thought, BB, when he went down,

53
00:05:10,420 --> 00:05:12,460
 that the Braves, I haven't seen the latest standings.

54
00:05:12,540 --> 00:05:15,380
 It was seven and a half over the fields at last report.

55
00:05:15,460 --> 00:05:17,980
 That could have flexed either way, a half game up or a down.

56
00:05:18,220 --> 00:05:20,840
 But bottom line is, seven, seven and a half, eight games.

57
00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,640
 Who would have thought that when he went down to the Braves to be in this position,

58
00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,960
 and now he is coming back, which adds even more ammo to the mix?

59
00:05:28,140 --> 00:05:31,160
 Well, I think it's the toughest job in baseball.

60
00:05:31,540 --> 00:05:32,080
 I know it is.

61
00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,120
 It's managing that pitching staff.

62
00:05:34,780 --> 00:05:36,200
 You've got to play defense.

63
00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,660
 You've still got to hit.

64
00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:43,700
 Harold, I think the other thing, and we'll talk about our beloved Bill Shanks with this on Friday,

65
00:05:44,460 --> 00:05:49,580
 with Spencer Strider now out for at least a month, and thank goodness he did not have a tear,

66
00:05:50,220 --> 00:05:52,360
 did not have any ligament damage.

67
00:05:53,020 --> 00:05:56,720
 But again, his velocity dropped four or five.

68
00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:03,060
 I think he was at 92 and then dropped down to 86, and they went out to the mound and took him out.

69
00:06:03,820 --> 00:06:05,520
 And again, we'll see where it goes.

70
00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,440
 But I really do think the Braves are going to have to look at,

71
00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:11,460
 and Bill Shanks has talked about this for three years.

72
00:06:11,860 --> 00:06:17,900
 Now, they've got some guys on the disabled list who will be coming back, I believe, in the next six weeks.

73
00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:22,660
 But at the trade deadline, I really wonder if the Braves are going to have to get a veteran pitcher.

74
00:06:22,660 --> 00:06:24,540
 Now, that's easier said than done.

75
00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,840
 But I think that's something Enthampolis is going to have to look at.

76
00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:31,400
 Well, here's why it's easier said than done.

77
00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,400
 Every team in the majors are after the same thing.

78
00:06:34,620 --> 00:06:37,240
 It's kind of like a left tackle in college football in the portal.

79
00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,360
 Everybody's at the same position, so they can drive their prices up.

80
00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,260
 You mentioned Bill Shanks.

81
00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:48,100
 Has Bill touched base with any of us about the latest move, talking about baseball?

82
00:06:48,100 --> 00:06:53,120
 Not necessarily, I guess technically it's on the field, but the issue is off the field.

83
00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:59,480
 Did you see the story over the last few days where Major League Baseball had the pride nights,

84
00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,560
 and a lot of teams pretty much said, okay, we'll play the game.

85
00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,280
 We'll go and do the different caps, the different configurations.

86
00:07:06,620 --> 00:07:08,980
 A few of the major leaguers did not.

87
00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,740
 One of the Dodgers and a few of the San Francisco Giants.

88
00:07:12,460 --> 00:07:16,600
 When I say San Francisco Giants, that's kind of the epicenter of the topic here.

89
00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:22,240
 And now baseball is coming out and saying, because they came out and wore a different cap,

90
00:07:22,300 --> 00:07:25,480
 besides the one that they said you're supposed to wear for pride night,

91
00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:31,900
 they wrote a Bible verse or verses on their cap, and now Major League Baseball is saying foul,

92
00:07:32,380 --> 00:07:37,220
 not with a bat, but because of your political stance, you can't do that.

93
00:07:37,620 --> 00:07:45,720
 Has Bill Shanks said basically, so you can go and put this on a cap, but you can't put that on a cap,

94
00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,360
 but we're going to call it freedom of speech.

95
00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:48,740
 Has he touched base yet?

96
00:07:48,740 --> 00:07:50,960
 No, he hadn't touched base with me yet.

97
00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,220
 I'm sure he would have a comment about that.

98
00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:59,700
 Yeah, three of the Giants wrote Bible verses on their cap.

99
00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,840
 Herald players write mottos or something on their shoes.

100
00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:12,600
 Now, you know, first of all, I do understand you need a standard for uniforms instead of turning into NASCAR,

101
00:08:13,180 --> 00:08:17,800
 which, again, some sports, I think that they're going down the road with that.

102
00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,980
 But, no, I can see both sides of this, and particularly with this coming from San Francisco,

103
00:08:23,260 --> 00:08:29,260
 but, no, I've seen other players, Herald, right on their shoes, you know, et cetera, et cetera,

104
00:08:29,260 --> 00:08:30,720
 so we'll see where that goes.

105
00:08:30,820 --> 00:08:33,680
 But I'm sure Bill will have a commentary about that Friday.

106
00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:36,800
 Well, the problem is, and I agree there's got to be guardrails.

107
00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:43,980
 The issue is the other side has already said we can do this, but when the other side comes back and wants to counter that,

108
00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:50,440
 what they write seems to be okay by the commissioner, but what the folks who write in the Bible verses, that is not okay.

109
00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,620
 And this is the same dude, Robert Manfred, who's the commissioner of baseball.

110
00:08:54,620 --> 00:08:57,900
 Remember, I guarantee the folks over in Atlanta remember that dude.

111
00:08:57,980 --> 00:08:58,260
 Oh, yeah.

112
00:08:58,380 --> 00:09:06,800
 Because they came back and they cried foul, and he's the one that signed off on moving the All-Star game from Atlanta to Denver a few years back, BB.

113
00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,580
 Basically, in effect, for the same issue.

114
00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:14,360
 Well, Harold, Manfred is one of the most unpopular commissioners in the history of baseball.

115
00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:20,000
 Atlanta fans and Braves fans will never forgive him for taking the All-Star again.

116
00:09:20,220 --> 00:09:26,400
 Atlanta got it back, and I'm glad they made the move, but at the time, he was quite unpopular.

117
00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,240
 Grow some backbone, my friend.

118
00:09:29,980 --> 00:09:40,220
 Basically, we mentioned yesterday a friend, Rick Rodenover in Scottsboro, saying a fellow by the name of DeBoer is coming for their big event coming up here in a few days.

119
00:09:40,740 --> 00:09:43,000
 I don't know if you saw what DeBoer's comments this week.

120
00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:50,160
 I got a feeling I know part of his sermon to the guys, basically, if you love Alabama, we need some help with the NAL.

121
00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:55,820
 I got the rankings here in a second who are the big spenders and where the Tide Tigers and Tennessee ranks with the rest of the guys.

122
00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:04,580
 But it's interesting that DeBoer now is coming out and saying, guys, if we want to win the national championships like we did back in the day, you got to reach.

123
00:10:05,380 --> 00:10:07,240
 Well, the NAL's been an issue.

124
00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,900
 I've seen a lot of that this week, Harold, about who's got money and who doesn't.

125
00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:16,760
 Now, I can assure you Alabama's not broke when it comes to NAL.

126
00:10:17,460 --> 00:10:19,820
 And I've noticed that.

127
00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:25,200
 And again, Kellen DeBoer's been on the speaking tour this week.

128
00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:34,520
 He was in Mobile last night, along with Alex Gullich of Auburn, and he talked about why Alabama's going to sign so few players.

129
00:10:35,220 --> 00:10:36,940
 Usually, it's 20 to 25.

130
00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,220
 They signed 21 last year and 25 the previous year.

131
00:10:40,620 --> 00:10:42,520
 This year, probably only 15.

132
00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:43,600
 Why is that?

133
00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:55,580
 Well, because, for example, on the offensive line, they've got 16 players, and they're going to put a lot of the money instead of into NAL for the transfer portal.

134
00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,880
 They're going to use that into the current roster and try to keep the players there.

135
00:11:00,060 --> 00:11:07,300
 But I do understand whenever they're making, Harold, like you said, they're going to be in Scottsboro on Monday.

136
00:11:07,740 --> 00:11:10,420
 He's going to make a pitch for NAL.

137
00:11:10,740 --> 00:11:15,460
 Well, the reason I bring it up, you're right, Alabama is not broke, but it's all relative, baby.

138
00:11:15,900 --> 00:11:16,840
 Here's the bottom line.

139
00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:25,900
 You may not be broke, but if someone basically shuts you down and you're the top 10, that means you've got six, seven, eight other guys that basically are riding bigger checks.

140
00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,680
 Just to kind of give you a framework, this is a list, a reported list of NIL spenders.

141
00:11:30,680 --> 00:11:31,620
 This is across the country.

142
00:11:32,180 --> 00:11:33,320
 I'll give you number 25.

143
00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:34,220
 This is top 25.

144
00:11:34,620 --> 00:11:35,960
 Number 25, Illinois.

145
00:11:36,220 --> 00:11:38,700
 They are $9.3 million.

146
00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,540
 The lowest spending team in the SEC.

147
00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:42,360
 Now, this is public.

148
00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:43,080
 We don't know Vandy.

149
00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:43,800
 This is public.

150
00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:44,620
 South Carolina.

151
00:11:44,740 --> 00:11:46,160
 I don't think a lot of folks are shocked.

152
00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:47,820
 I'm here, nine and a half.

153
00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,320
 Florida State, by comparison, $10 million.

154
00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,380
 Kentucky is at 11-2.

155
00:11:53,140 --> 00:11:54,920
 Arkansas, 11-5.

156
00:11:55,660 --> 00:11:58,500
 Auburn is in the top 16, baby.

157
00:11:58,600 --> 00:11:59,920
 We talk about DeBoer.

158
00:12:00,540 --> 00:12:03,980
 Auburn, it's hard to say, 11 only.

159
00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,720
 $11.58 million.

160
00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,780
 That's just a notch up on Tennessee.

161
00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:14,820
 Remember when everybody thought Tennessee was the biggest spenders in the country, and now they're only in the top 15.

162
00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,900
 In fact, Virginia ranks ahead of them.

163
00:12:17,180 --> 00:12:20,760
 Indiana, team that won it all last year, everybody thought they was writing the big checks.

164
00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,020
 They're only number 12.

165
00:12:22,060 --> 00:12:22,780
 I say only.

166
00:12:23,180 --> 00:12:26,820
 They won a championship with that kind of spendage here, which also illustrates the point.

167
00:12:27,460 --> 00:12:28,680
 It's not just spending.

168
00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,900
 It's knowing how to spend them and to capitalize.

169
00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,540
 Now, as far as the top 10, no shock, Oklahoma at 14-8.

170
00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,000
 DeBoer, for all the things he says, it's interesting because he sits here and bashes it.

171
00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,560
 He's in the top 10 at nine.

172
00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,920
 Clemson, 15.2.

173
00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,600
 The Florida Gators, 15.8.

174
00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:52,980
 The Alabama Crimson Tide BB at $15.9 million at number seven.

175
00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:59,500
 Yeah, Harold, I was going to guess they were close to that, and again, we've talked about this for years.

176
00:13:00,500 --> 00:13:05,240
 I learned a long time ago, life's not fair, and I wish it was across the board.

177
00:13:05,740 --> 00:13:23,300
 Everybody at least were fairly equal, as Nick Saban has been trying to say for years, but again, Alabama's smart enough, and some of the other schools, they're not going to pay $5 million for a left tackle or an edge rusher.

178
00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,300
 Again, it's evaluations.

179
00:13:25,980 --> 00:13:30,980
 It's what we talked about, the great job that Kurt Signetti did at Indiana.

180
00:13:30,980 --> 00:13:35,660
 And the evaluation, with the limited amount of NIL money you've got, you've got to use it wisely.

181
00:13:35,900 --> 00:13:37,400
 Well, that's a perfect marriage right there.

182
00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:39,100
 At number six is Michigan.

183
00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,420
 Everybody thought they might be higher.

184
00:13:40,540 --> 00:13:43,520
 In fact, a lot of folks thought Texas A&M might be higher.

185
00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,280
 They're at number five at a mere 17.2.

186
00:13:46,700 --> 00:13:48,420
 Bill Shanks, hush.

187
00:13:48,740 --> 00:13:51,740
 Georgia is a big spender at 18.3 mil.

188
00:13:52,180 --> 00:13:53,520
 They're number four on the list.

189
00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,160
 The Fighting Land Kiffin's at number three.

190
00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,900
 They're just over $20 million.

191
00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,320
 Ohio State is number two.

192
00:14:00,980 --> 00:14:06,180
 And I'm going to give you a long shot guess as who's number one, BB, in the entire college basketball or football world.

193
00:14:06,260 --> 00:14:08,540
 Could it be Texas or Texas A&M?

194
00:14:09,020 --> 00:14:12,280
 At a $22.2 million rate.

195
00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,360
 Basically, that's over twice, or right at twice what Alabama's spending.

196
00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,160
 So there you have it.

197
00:14:17,220 --> 00:14:21,880
 Yes, Alabama's spending a lot of money, but it's all relative when you start looking at this.

198
00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,280
 But I will say this.

199
00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:31,620
 Go to the trophy case and see how many Texas got in there and how many of those other folks have got in there, including last year's little old boys from Indiana.

200
00:14:32,180 --> 00:14:33,320
 Let's go to Auburn next.

201
00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,320
 And Jason Caldwell, stay with us.

202
00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:52,920
 This feeling is brought to you by Aleve for Back Pain Relief.

203
00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,480
 What feeling is that, you ask?

204
00:14:54,820 --> 00:14:57,580
 Well, it's the feeling you feel when you have relief from back pain.

205
00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,880
 That move how you want to, not how you have to feeling.

206
00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,660
 That keep going through your day without slowing down feeling.

207
00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,960
 The kind that brings you back to yourself all day long without interruption.

208
00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:07,220
 Oh, yeah.

209
00:15:07,900 --> 00:15:10,700
 Because Aleve offers long-lasting pain relief.

210
00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:14,100
 Feel up to 12 hours of back pain relief with one dose.

211
00:15:14,660 --> 00:15:15,700
 Feel Aleve.

212
00:15:16,100 --> 00:15:17,960
 Use us directed for minor aches and pains.

213
00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,700
 Hey, Mom, now that I have an after-school job, I think I want to buy a drum kit.

214
00:15:22,980 --> 00:15:24,120
 Okay, Rockstar.

215
00:15:24,260 --> 00:15:25,200
 Let's look at your account.

216
00:15:25,420 --> 00:15:30,140
 When kids start making money, Chase has easy-to-use tools and expert bankers to help them learn how to manage it.

217
00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,680
 And next month, I'll buy the bass drum and the cymbals.

218
00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,440
 Oh, and maybe some noise-canceling headphones for you.

219
00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,220
 Aw, you've thought of everything.

220
00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,080
 Help kids save, budget, and build financial independence all with Chase.

221
00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,100
 That's good for kids and good for parents.

222
00:15:43,460 --> 00:15:45,260
 Visit your local Chase branch and get started.

223
00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:46,600
 Accounts subject to approval.

224
00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,640
 J.P. Morgan Chase Bank and a member FDIC.

225
00:15:50,940 --> 00:15:52,000
 What's up, everybody?

226
00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,300
 Nick Kostos here helping you beat the books with Westwood One Sports.

227
00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,640
 In the big soccer tournament later today, England plays Croatia.

228
00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,680
 England a minus 145 favorite.

229
00:16:00,940 --> 00:16:02,100
 And I want to lay that price.

230
00:16:02,220 --> 00:16:05,020
 I love England in this tournament with its new German coach.

231
00:16:05,020 --> 00:16:08,800
 And I know Croatia has made a couple deep runs in the last big international tournaments.

232
00:16:09,020 --> 00:16:10,080
 But I think England's better.

233
00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,320
 Give me England to win.

234
00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,500
 Minus 145.

235
00:16:12,780 --> 00:16:14,100
 Bet smarter and beat the books.

236
00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,280
 Download the BetMGM app today.

237
00:16:18,860 --> 00:16:21,320
 Tired of hearing scary radio ads about the IRS?

238
00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,380
 Tax relief advocates is different.

239
00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:29,560
 T.R.A. is here to tell you that if you owe money to the IRS, whether it's $5,000 or $500,000, we have a solution.

240
00:16:29,820 --> 00:16:33,560
 T.R.A. can eliminate or reduce what you owe to the IRS with zero risk to you.

241
00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,780
 If we can't reduce your tax debt, then you pay nothing.

242
00:16:36,100 --> 00:16:39,500
 We have over 1,000 five-star reviews on Google and an A-plus with a BBB.

243
00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:44,500
 End your tax nightmare today by visiting TRA.com or call 800-339-6282.

244
00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:47,660
 That's 800-339-6282.

245
00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,760
 Professional Power Plays brought to you by Propane.

246
00:16:52,980 --> 00:16:53,640
 Okay, team.

247
00:16:53,900 --> 00:16:59,300
 America's energy security is on thin ice, overburdened electric grid, rising costs, severe weather.

248
00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:05,280
 You could stick with the grid and ride it out, do nothing and hope the problems go away, or here's your power play.

249
00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:06,200
 Propane.

250
00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,340
 Affordable, abundant, safe.

251
00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,300
 Propane is a reliable energy, even when the grid isn't.

252
00:17:12,300 --> 00:17:13,640
 Advantage Propane.

253
00:17:14,580 --> 00:17:17,200
 Learn more at propane.com slash power play.

254
00:17:18,220 --> 00:17:19,180
 Rich Eisen here.

255
00:17:19,180 --> 00:17:26,060
 A SoFi personal loan is here to help you achieve something once thought impossible, overcoming high-interest credit card debt.

256
00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:32,800
 Walk the tightrope of your finances with one low fixed-rate monthly payment, no fees required, and as soon as the same-day funding.

257
00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,360
 That's right, pull off your own debt-defying stunt with a SoFi personal loan.

258
00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,000
 Visit SoFi.com slash trick to learn more.

259
00:17:40,220 --> 00:17:42,280
 Loans originated by SoFi Bank N.A.

260
00:17:42,380 --> 00:17:43,240
 Member FDIC.

261
00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:44,520
 Terms and conditions apply.

262
00:17:45,180 --> 00:17:47,240
 NMLS 696891.

263
00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,160
 I'm David Ortiz.

264
00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:54,200
 When I lost my mom, she was only 46, and I lost my dad to cancer.

265
00:17:54,540 --> 00:17:56,140
 It was the worst pain I ever felt.

266
00:17:56,500 --> 00:18:00,440
 It made me think, what will happen with the people I love when my time is up?

267
00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:02,300
 That's why I have life insurance.

268
00:18:02,660 --> 00:18:03,720
 Ethos makes it easy.

269
00:18:03,940 --> 00:18:08,700
 It's all online, take about 10 minutes, and you can get up to $3 million and cover it.

270
00:18:08,980 --> 00:18:12,140
 Get your free quote at ethos.com slash game.

271
00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:14,760
 That's ethos.com slash game.

272
00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:15,500
 Pay testimonial.

273
00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:16,700
 Time spent on application may vary.

274
00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:17,900
 Online health questions required.

275
00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,400
 This is the story of The One.

276
00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:25,100
 The one who keeps multiple buildings running smoothly day after day.

277
00:18:25,540 --> 00:18:29,680
 Plumbing that flows, HVAC that hums, cleaning supplies that keep surfaces sparkling.

278
00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,900
 That's why she counts on Grainger.

279
00:18:31,900 --> 00:18:37,200
 With easy reordering online and 24-7 support, Grainger helps her keep the product she needs on hand.

280
00:18:37,740 --> 00:18:40,460
 So shelves stay stocked, and buildings stay ready.

281
00:18:40,900 --> 00:18:44,020
 Call 1-800-GRAINGER, click Grainger.com, or just stop by.

282
00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:45,100
 Grainger.

283
00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,440
 For the ones who get it done.

284
00:18:48,860 --> 00:18:51,400
 Snapshot from Progressive wasn't created for just anybody.

285
00:18:51,940 --> 00:18:55,120
 Oh no, we made it for you, gradual breakers.

286
00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,940
 You keep your eyes on the road, so you've seen it all.

287
00:18:58,180 --> 00:19:00,880
 As long as it all happened directly in front of you.

288
00:19:01,060 --> 00:19:05,640
 Like a Swedish masseuse, your foot knows exactly the right amount of pressure to apply to the brake.

289
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,540
 That's why your passengers feel totally relaxed with you behind the wheel, and occasionally super sleepy.

290
00:19:11,060 --> 00:19:13,940
 With Snapshot, safe drivers like you get personalized rates based on your driving habits.

291
00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:15,500
 Sign up today at Progressive.com.

292
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,100
 Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and Affiliates.

293
00:19:17,220 --> 00:19:18,820
 Snapshot not available in California or from all agents.

294
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,120
 The Colonel's cooked up a new $10 bucket of the day just for you.

295
00:19:23,580 --> 00:19:25,320
 Monday, 24 nuggets for $10.

296
00:19:25,980 --> 00:19:28,100
 Tuesday, 8-piece fried chicken for $10.

297
00:19:28,660 --> 00:19:30,460
 Wednesday, 10 wings for $10.

298
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,640
 Thursday, 8 tenders for $10.

299
00:19:33,220 --> 00:19:35,460
 Friday, 24 nuggets for...

300
00:19:35,460 --> 00:19:37,340
 Ooh, you guessed it, didn't you?

301
00:19:38,180 --> 00:19:38,540
 $10.

302
00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:41,940
 The $10 bucket of the day deal.

303
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,980
 Every weekday, only at KFC.

304
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,460
 It's finger licking good.

305
00:19:45,460 --> 00:19:46,620
 Prices and participation vary.

306
00:19:46,740 --> 00:19:47,200
 Supplies last.

307
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,600
 Not available on third-party ordering platforms.

308
00:19:48,700 --> 00:19:49,120
 Tax extra.

309
00:19:49,860 --> 00:19:50,960
 The Score.

310
00:19:51,420 --> 00:19:55,460
 Now, back with Boomo Bugg on 93.9 The Score.

311
00:19:55,980 --> 00:19:57,240
 Welcome back in.

312
00:19:57,360 --> 00:20:00,300
 A quick reminder, if you love yourself some Braves

313
00:20:00,300 --> 00:20:03,440
 and you want a double shot of them right here on 93.9 The Score.

314
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,340
 The suspended game from last night, the rain game,

315
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,720
 going to be picking up here basically in just over a half hour.

316
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:14,120
 In fact, pre-game just over about 20 or 25 minutes from now here on 93.9 The Score.

317
00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:16,980
 But first, chance for us to go down to the plane.

318
00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:17,980
 Say hello to J.C.

319
00:20:18,100 --> 00:20:19,360
 Jason Caldwell, basically there.

320
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,920
 Got the Auburn Tigers covered at Auburn Undercover.

321
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,320
 Jason, welcome in.

322
00:20:23,380 --> 00:20:23,880
 How are you?

323
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,260
 I'm good, guys.

324
00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:25,700
 I'm a dog.

325
00:20:25,780 --> 00:20:25,980
 Hey, man.

326
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,020
 Hey, we're doing all right.

327
00:20:27,060 --> 00:20:31,420
 Are you watching this World Cup now with a little different filter, a different lens?

328
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,280
 I mean, when you come and they're that close to you guys there at Auburn,

329
00:20:35,380 --> 00:20:39,300
 it just takes on, I would imagine, a different dimension when you watch some of these games on TV.

330
00:20:41,340 --> 00:20:42,960
 Well, it probably does for some.

331
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:44,700
 Not for me.

332
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,860
 It's just not my sport.

333
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,920
 I don't really watch it much.

334
00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:53,920
 So, I mean, it was obviously a great spectacle when they were here at Auburn.

335
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:59,220
 But, yeah, for me, there's not much World Cup watching for me going on at the moment.

336
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,200
 I hear you, J.C.

337
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:01,240
 I hear you, J.C.

338
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:08,120
 Let's talk about something that is coming here, and that's the conversation in college football just about 80 days away.

339
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:16,480
 We heard earlier about Ken and DeBoer down in Mobile teaming up with Alex Golesh, basically both of them out on the rubber chicken tour right now.

340
00:21:17,140 --> 00:21:19,100
 And Ken may know bones about it.

341
00:21:19,180 --> 00:21:25,300
 Guys, if you want to get serious about this, you might want to reach down in the couch and get some more money.

342
00:21:25,380 --> 00:21:32,860
 Your thoughts about how Auburn is approaching NIL and the speech that they're giving to Auburn fans to kind of enrich the coffers, if you will.

343
00:21:33,700 --> 00:21:42,320
 Yeah, and it's just until something changes, it's a part of the conversation that you've got to have in every sport.

344
00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:50,800
 You know, people trying to explain to people, like, with baseball, and they're like, well, you know, man, you're this close this year, just go get a few pieces.

345
00:21:51,060 --> 00:21:55,460
 Well, that's great, but your guys on your current team aren't under contract.

346
00:21:55,980 --> 00:22:00,080
 So you've got to pay those guys to keep them and then try to go get pieces.

347
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,840
 And it's the same thing in football and basketball.

348
00:22:03,180 --> 00:22:05,380
 It's not free agency where you think about it.

349
00:22:05,620 --> 00:22:10,960
 You know, we've always thought about it in professional sports terms where, okay, now your roster's set, go get a piece.

350
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,180
 Well, it don't work that way in college sports right now.

351
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,980
 You've got to rebuild your entire roster every year.

352
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,520
 And because of that, it takes more and more money.

353
00:22:20,940 --> 00:22:22,060
 It's just reality.

354
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,580
 And it's unfortunate.

355
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,620
 But, no, it's part of it.

356
00:22:26,460 --> 00:22:31,420
 And, you know, do you have to be Texas or Texas A&M to compete?

357
00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:31,740
 No.

358
00:22:31,740 --> 00:22:34,740
 But you can't be at the bottom end of the totem pole either.

359
00:22:35,580 --> 00:22:42,980
 Well, I'm proud you brought that up, Jason, because we just got done talking about this is a list of the spenders across the country.

360
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:54,360
 And did you ever think that if someone came to you and said, Auburn's going to be spending over $11.5 million for players, you probably said, my gosh, we're going to win a national championship.

361
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,840
 Here's a problem with it.

362
00:22:56,340 --> 00:23:00,800
 Auburn on this particular list is 16th out of 25 teams, 16th.

363
00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:05,240
 And to put that in perspective, Alabama is at number seven.

364
00:23:05,340 --> 00:23:08,960
 They're spending $17 million, which is about six more million.

365
00:23:09,020 --> 00:23:14,700
 But what makes it more amazing about it, Jason, is the fact that Texas is spending over $22 million.

366
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:22,000
 In other words, Texas, for every dollar Auburn is spending, Texas is spending two.

367
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:28,200
 Now, maybe you can catch lightning in a bottle, but being realistic, what are the odds that that's going to play out a long time?

368
00:23:28,260 --> 00:23:32,220
 If you spend more money, chances are you've got more chances of winning a championship.

369
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,720
 Yeah, and is that in football?

370
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,460
 Yes, this is in football.

371
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,200
 Yeah, I don't think that's even close to being correct.

372
00:23:40,900 --> 00:23:42,520
 I don't think those numbers are even close.

373
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,560
 I think it's way more than that.

374
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,100
 I do, too.

375
00:23:46,180 --> 00:23:47,840
 I'm just talking about this is a published one, okay?

376
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:48,600
 This is just published.

377
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,420
 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

378
00:23:49,540 --> 00:23:56,420
 But even then, I think it is way more money than that spent on football, Ross.

379
00:23:56,460 --> 00:24:02,380
 My guess is that's closer to basketball, would be my guess, for 13 players.

380
00:24:03,500 --> 00:24:08,080
 Football, I would guess, for most teams in this league, if you're competitive.

381
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:22,840
 And I guess part of that, too, is you have the NIL and your roster money and your budget that you're spending, but then you also have the outside NIL.

382
00:24:23,620 --> 00:24:24,760
 Auburn has a game in Atlanta.

383
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:30,860
 You have things that you'll have in addition to money and some of the Nike stuff that you have.

384
00:24:31,620 --> 00:24:40,780
 But my guess is, yeah, I think in this league in football, you're probably talking closer to $25 million just to be on the break-even line to be able to compete in this league right now.

385
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,720
 JC, one thing we do know is Auburn is doing well in recruiting the latest rankings.

386
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:53,080
 I saw they're number 13 in 24-7 sports and ranked number five in the SEC.

387
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:58,380
 Their latest pickup was Nate Kamba, a four-star defensive lineman.

388
00:24:58,620 --> 00:25:01,380
 I believe Auburn had five visits over the weekend.

389
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,220
 Carlos May, certainly one of them, a four-star defensive lineman at Birmingham.

390
00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:11,580
 Junior James, you know, again, another freak from Thompson High School.

391
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,780
 Mark Freeman just has an incubator.

392
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,700
 George Lemons, Ted Willis.

393
00:25:17,540 --> 00:25:22,820
 But no question, this Auburn staff hit the ground running and is paying dividends.

394
00:25:28,220 --> 00:25:30,100
 Jason Caldwell, a little bit of a hiccup there.

395
00:25:30,260 --> 00:25:32,600
 We'll try to reconnect there with Jason in a second.

396
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,480
 I agree with Jason.

397
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,420
 This is just a published list, BB.

398
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:40,800
 It's not to say, but regardless of the numbers, and I got a feeling if he mentioned Auburn

399
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,980
 saying $25 million, by the same principle, that means Texas is spending $50 million.

400
00:25:46,060 --> 00:25:50,300
 The point being, Texas is basically doubling up a lot of the field in the SEC.

401
00:25:50,620 --> 00:25:53,660
 The problem with that is fans are still wanting Auburn.

402
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,080
 Fans are still wanting Alabama to win these championships.

403
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:58,660
 That's the problem, BB.

404
00:25:59,020 --> 00:26:03,320
 Once in June, July, when you sit here and talk about it, and people with a reasonable mic

405
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,580
 and say, I agree with that, but once the season starts, what's the one thing that everybody's

406
00:26:08,580 --> 00:26:09,120
 got in common?

407
00:26:09,340 --> 00:26:15,400
 When they forget why, they may not have, they may have a decent roster, but I think the problem

408
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,400
 with what Texas is doing, they're able to build depth, BB.

409
00:26:18,540 --> 00:26:22,160
 They can probably bring a guy in, put him on the bench, and still put, look at Arch Manning.

410
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,020
 How much money did he make his first two years and never basically saw the field except in

411
00:26:26,020 --> 00:26:26,620
 mop-up duty?

412
00:26:26,860 --> 00:26:29,240
 Well, Jason is rejoined us again.

413
00:26:29,380 --> 00:26:35,100
 Jason, let me ask you about Auburn is really doing well in recruiting now number 13 after

414
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:40,040
 picking up Nate Kamba, the four-star defensive lineman, head of South Carolina.

415
00:26:40,180 --> 00:26:44,400
 Your thoughts on the job Alice Golich and his staff is doing so far?

416
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,740
 Yeah, and it kind of piggybacks on the back end of the conversation you guys were having

417
00:26:49,740 --> 00:26:51,920
 about trying to create some depth.

418
00:26:52,780 --> 00:26:55,480
 I don't think there's any other way to do it right now.

419
00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:03,440
 You have to recruit and develop guys, and I don't know that you're spending money on five-star

420
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,080
 players in recruiting anymore.

421
00:27:06,700 --> 00:27:07,860
 At least not a lot of it.

422
00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:15,340
 I just don't know that that's quality decisions for what you're doing.

423
00:27:15,540 --> 00:27:22,320
 Get a bunch of good players and develop them, and then if it doesn't work out, then you go

424
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,480
 grab a portal guy here or there to try to supplement that.

425
00:27:25,740 --> 00:27:32,240
 But, man, spending a lot of money on top-tier, five-star-type recruits for me just doesn't

426
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,160
 seem wise.

427
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,200
 Because, first of all, the d*** guy is going to stay.

428
00:27:36,820 --> 00:27:41,740
 Second of all, maybe at a certain position, but I don't, like, quarterback, you're probably

429
00:27:41,740 --> 00:27:42,420
 not going to play.

430
00:27:43,780 --> 00:27:47,060
 There's some other positions where you're not going to play, and are you going to stay

431
00:27:47,060 --> 00:27:49,160
 and develop and stick it out?

432
00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:53,940
 And if not, then, man, we just saw it with Deuce Knight.

433
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,240
 I mean, Auburn, you give money to a quarterback, and, you know, you have a coaching change, and

434
00:27:59,240 --> 00:27:59,880
 it's gone.

435
00:28:00,140 --> 00:28:00,580
 That's it.

436
00:28:00,620 --> 00:28:02,060
 It's like, poof, there it is.

437
00:28:02,940 --> 00:28:09,660
 And so, I think, look, spend money on signing numbers of offensive linemen.

438
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,320
 Go get some running back guys, guys who can play early, a defensive lineman who can play

439
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,740
 early, and in developmental positions.

440
00:28:17,980 --> 00:28:20,640
 You know, I've kind of been screaming from the hilltops for that for years.

441
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:26,120
 And I think, right now, more than ever, you've got to find a way to try to keep some of these

442
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:29,880
 guys on campus and build something.

443
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:31,820
 Because these are one of two things.

444
00:28:32,220 --> 00:28:36,160
 You can either be Lane Kiffin in Indiana, and it's worked out.

445
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:40,640
 You can be just straight up, go portal, and hope you hit on the right guys every year.

446
00:28:41,260 --> 00:28:44,880
 Or you can try to be consistently there, give yourself a chance.

447
00:28:45,220 --> 00:28:49,040
 And to me, I think at Auburn right now, that's where I would lean.

448
00:28:49,140 --> 00:28:54,000
 Because the other side of that is, you better have a lot of money every year to turn it over

449
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,480
 and to do those things.

450
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,040
 And like Texas Tech, for example.

451
00:28:57,780 --> 00:29:00,200
 It didn't quite work out so well for them right now.

452
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,240
 But there's two ways to do it, and I think Auburn's choosing a way to look at if we can

453
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,120
 consistently give ourselves a chance.

454
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,960
 Well, Jason, to your point there, we talked yesterday, and we asked about the money that

455
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,040
 Sorosby's getting out there.

456
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,700
 Basically, he's still going to get his $4 million.

457
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:17,660
 So they can absorb that kind of thing.

458
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,020
 And here's the problem.

459
00:29:19,100 --> 00:29:21,180
 In a way, you mentioned, you know, Deuce Knight.

460
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,200
 What about Count Coleman?

461
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:28,300
 Auburn goes out, recruits him, has built his brand, spends all this money, all this time

462
00:29:28,300 --> 00:29:29,200
 developing him.

463
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,320
 And now Texas is going to take all of that.

464
00:29:31,620 --> 00:29:32,840
 They're going to put money with it.

465
00:29:33,220 --> 00:29:34,820
 But now they've got to, it's like the Yankees.

466
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,280
 The Yankees back in the day, they went to Cleveland.

467
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,660
 They'd let Cleveland get a hotshot name, bring them up in the minors, give them some numbers,

468
00:29:42,660 --> 00:29:45,640
 and then they'd go and snatch them away because they'd make a deal and poor old Cleveland

469
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,800
 stayed in the cellar for years.

470
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,160
 So in a way, that's where college football is.

471
00:29:49,300 --> 00:29:54,240
 And to your point, over on the other side of the state, DeBoer, basically, that's what

472
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,720
 he is saying, in effect.

473
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,080
 We're going to sit here and take that money and pour it back into the guys we've

474
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,340
 got here, as opposed to going out and getting somebody.

475
00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:06,280
 They come in here, use us for a year, and if they have good numbers, they're going to

476
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,880
 cash out and go somewhere else.

477
00:30:07,980 --> 00:30:10,780
 And that team's going to benefit from all the time and money we've spent to get them

478
00:30:10,780 --> 00:30:11,300
 to this level.

479
00:30:12,140 --> 00:30:12,300
 Yeah.

480
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,340
 No, and like I said, I think you look at it and it doesn't matter the sport any longer.

481
00:30:16,460 --> 00:30:19,700
 I mean, but we're watching, you know, College World Series.

482
00:30:19,820 --> 00:30:21,400
 North Carolina has developed guys.

483
00:30:21,660 --> 00:30:23,620
 They do have some transfers, too.

484
00:30:24,380 --> 00:30:27,120
 And you look at the flip side, Georgia and Georgia.

485
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,220
 Just about everybody they put on the field is a transfer.

486
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,780
 Some from smaller schools.

487
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,360
 You've got their pitchers.

488
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,260
 The two guys that have pitched are Stanford, USC, and then Michigan last night.

489
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,880
 So they've had three transfer pitchers that have pitched for them.

490
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:46,500
 And then almost every position player, you know, started his career somewhere else.

491
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,440
 They said, look, this is how we're going to do it.

492
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,740
 And then they'll retool those guys and sign a bunch of transfers again after this year.

493
00:30:54,820 --> 00:30:57,680
 And so it's working at a high level for some teams.

494
00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:02,500
 It depends on how you want to do it, how you want to try to build a team.

495
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,820
 And like I said, we've seen the Ole Miss have success with it the last few years in football.

496
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,360
 Obviously, Indiana did.

497
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:15,040
 You know, Miami were more bits and pieces, recruited guys, but then added a few transfer guys here, there.

498
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:24,140
 But, no, it's a very, very difficult situation right now when you're talking about from a football perspective

499
00:31:24,140 --> 00:31:27,080
 and recruiting, you're doing official visits in the month of June.

500
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,580
 You've got football camps going on.

501
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,040
 You're trying to think about what am I going to need this year, but you don't know until the portal happens.

502
00:31:34,940 --> 00:31:38,580
 So you don't really know what you're going to need until after the season

503
00:31:38,580 --> 00:31:40,000
 and you figure out how many guys you lose.

504
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:44,260
 You'll have to go find somebody else.

505
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:45,960
 $5 million, Jason.

506
00:31:46,140 --> 00:31:50,100
 I mean, and not only that, how do you keep the locker room happy when, you know,

507
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,520
 Brett Beaird and Harold Buggs is making $1.50 and this guy is making $5 million.

508
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:58,120
 How do you keep a locker room together, and how do you coach somebody who's making more

509
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,400
 than a lot of your assistant coaches?

510
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,520
 Yeah, that's kind of been a question, you know, that a lot of people have had.

511
00:32:05,660 --> 00:32:07,600
 How is that going to work?

512
00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:12,080
 And, you know, you look and guys have made money recently.

513
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,600
 Well, I mean, we just saw, you know, Miami brought in a quarterback, paid a bunch of money,

514
00:32:16,660 --> 00:32:17,760
 and they played for a national championship.

515
00:32:18,020 --> 00:32:19,340
 So it can work.

516
00:32:20,860 --> 00:32:24,700
 I guess the reality is it's always been that way in professional sports.

517
00:32:25,620 --> 00:32:28,920
 You know, the NFL team, you've always had the offensive guard who made, you know,

518
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,160
 $225,000 for taking a quarterback who made $10 million.

519
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,140
 And so it's always been that way, but we just hadn't seen it in college sports.

520
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:44,900
 And so, you know, I guess there's a hierarchy, and it is what it is, but I still think in the end,

521
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,940
 listen, I talked to a couple of guys at Auburn, and they said, look,

522
00:32:47,980 --> 00:32:49,680
 it's actually allowed us to coach guys harder.

523
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,260
 And I thought, okay, because you're getting paid now.

524
00:32:53,580 --> 00:32:53,980
 Okay.

525
00:32:54,260 --> 00:32:54,560
 That's right.

526
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:56,620
 We're not asking you to do this.

527
00:32:57,220 --> 00:32:59,860
 You're doing this because you're getting paid for it.

528
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:03,500
 And so I think in some ways it's probably helped them, freed them up a little bit,

529
00:33:03,540 --> 00:33:05,620
 at least for that one year they're there.

530
00:33:05,940 --> 00:33:09,180
 Once they know they're there and they've got a year with them, then you can coach them hard.

531
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,040
 We just got about two minutes left with you.

532
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:20,760
 I was glad to see the Alabama sportswriters at their 54th convention honor some icons.

533
00:33:21,020 --> 00:33:26,540
 John Pruitt, Reuben Grant, Mike Bolton, and, of course, Phillip Marshall.

534
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,820
 You and Phillip were close.

535
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,740
 We talked to Ben Thomas about this on Monday.

536
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,260
 I was really glad to see the sportswriters honor those icons.

537
00:33:36,980 --> 00:33:37,420
 Yeah.

538
00:33:37,580 --> 00:33:42,660
 You know, it's a tough year when you look at thinking about those four guys.

539
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,680
 And what they meant to sportswriting.

540
00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:48,920
 But then you need to throw in our dear friend, Christina Chambers.

541
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,800
 She wasn't a sportswriter.

542
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,660
 She was absolutely in the sports field.

543
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,100
 Her losses, well, they mentioned her.

544
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,540
 But, yeah, to see so many in it, look, it was fun to listen to stories.

545
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:03,920
 Listen to Ray Mellick tell stories about Reuben Grant.

546
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,600
 And Kevin Scarbinsky talking about Mike Bolton.

547
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,300
 And, you know, listening to those things was really great.

548
00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:12,940
 And so, obviously, John Pruitt's a guy that I knew really well.

549
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:18,820
 And the whole time I was doing this job, he was around, you know, coming in on Saturdays

550
00:34:18,820 --> 00:34:20,720
 and obviously being around Auburn football a good bit.

551
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:23,640
 And so, yeah, definitely well-deserved.

552
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,520
 And it was an honor to be a part of it.

553
00:34:26,780 --> 00:34:27,200
 Absolutely.

554
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,680
 Well, listen, it's an honor to talk to you when we get the opportunity.

555
00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:33,340
 But a lot of things going on.

556
00:34:33,340 --> 00:34:36,280
 Auburn baseball getting ready for next year.

557
00:34:36,420 --> 00:34:37,780
 Recruiting never stops.

558
00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:42,980
 Where can we get on line to get you at yours, Nathan King, and everybody else's?

559
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,720
 Yeah, you can check us out, auburnundercover.com, part of the 24-7 network.

560
00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:48,760
 And, yeah, you're right.

561
00:34:48,820 --> 00:34:52,700
 It's kind of putting a bow on the year now.

562
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,380
 But still got some things going on, obviously.

563
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,880
 Got a couple of young golfers in the U.S. Open.

564
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:01,080
 You know, Jackson Coivin there.

565
00:35:01,140 --> 00:35:04,080
 He's still playing as an amateur, even though he has turned pro.

566
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:07,000
 He'll be an amateur this week in the U.S. Open.

567
00:35:07,540 --> 00:35:10,740
 And then a real talented freshman also made it into the field.

568
00:35:10,740 --> 00:35:16,560
 So, be watching those guys and see how they handle maybe the most difficult test in golf.

569
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,140
 Yes.

570
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,240
 And when you play at the Shinnecock Hills in the U.S. Open.

571
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,040
 So, that'll be a good welcoming experience for both those guys.

572
00:35:25,060 --> 00:35:28,280
 Wouldn't it be nice if they handed out free lessons to all of us hackers, Jason?

573
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,300
 Listen, man, thanks so much for your time today.

574
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,100
 And stay as cool and stay as you can today.

575
00:35:33,180 --> 00:35:34,180
 And thanks for your time today.

576
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,560
 Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.

577
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,020
 Thank you, bud.

578
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,440
 Jason Caldwell, Auburn undercover.

579
00:35:38,580 --> 00:35:40,960
 BB, as we mentioned, early start for the Braves.

580
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:41,860
 It's going to be weird.

581
00:35:41,980 --> 00:35:43,600
 A suspended game.

582
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,920
 As a matter of fact, the pregame is moments away.

583
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,780
 They'll pick it up with a 3-2 lead, BB.

584
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,780
 Yeah, second inning, and then J.R. Ritchie goes tonight in the night camp.

585
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,080
 I think that's 6-15 on 93-9 score.

586
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,460
 How concerned are you with the surging fields?

587
00:35:58,620 --> 00:36:00,420
 Now, seven games back.

588
00:36:00,540 --> 00:36:02,340
 Obviously, they corrected their problems.

589
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,320
 Your thoughts about the stretch now.

590
00:36:04,380 --> 00:36:06,800
 It seems to be a race between the Braves and the fields.

591
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,000
 Your thoughts about the fields now.

592
00:36:08,020 --> 00:36:13,080
 Well, quite frankly, with all the injuries the Braves have, the Phillies probably have a better roster.

593
00:36:13,780 --> 00:36:17,540
 But, listen, it helps to have a seven-game lead right now.

594
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,900
 And here's the bottom line.

595
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:21,360
 As the one and only Bill Shanks is saying, I concur.

596
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:22,880
 Just win this series.

597
00:36:23,060 --> 00:36:25,040
 Do meatloaf win two out of every three.

598
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,260
 And you should be there still standing after all that's said and done.

599
00:36:28,420 --> 00:36:30,620
 Speaking of Don, that's going to take care of business for us for now.

600
00:36:30,660 --> 00:36:35,600
 On behalf of B.B., Greg, James Blair, the entire crew here, Harold Buck, thank you so much for your time today.

601
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,280
 That's tuning in tomorrow, noon to 2, for the Boomer Buck Show.

602
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,900
 Back here on Sports Radio 93.9, the score.

