Boomo Bugg Show 060426
93.9 The Score WYTK - June 4, 2026
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Now, get ready to roll Shoals, Decatur, Athens and all of Northwest Alabama and Southern Tennessee. It's time for the Valley's Exclusive FM Sports Voice.
The Boomo Bugg Show. New Exclusive Inside Track to the Tide, Tigers, Tennessee and the rest of the SEC. Now your host, Harold Bugg on 93.9 The Score.
Good afternoon and welcome in to the Boomo Bugg Show. I'm Harold Bugg alongside Brett Beaird. Thank you so much for giving us free ride around the Tennessee Valley.
Brett Beaird, welcome in where Auburn teased up another national championship. And guess what happens one month from today, fireworks boy. Good afternoon, welcome in and how are you?
It's hard to believe for the 4th of July. Happy Thursday to you and the listeners. Yeah, the Auburn Tigers won the golf.
National championship yesterday. The second out of the three years they've done that. We'll discuss some of the feedback from Nick Saban's appearance at the Senate Commerce Committee yesterday.
Speaking of the Auburn Tigers, they're going to be playing Middle Tennessee State in basketball, Harold Bugg, Tuesday, December the 15th at the annual Rocket City Classic in Probst Arena with the Von Brown Center.
But right now, B.B. is here to talk about the future of college sports and his rankings for college football's top 25 quarterbacks in 2026.
You know, Usville had a rocket scientist in Von Brown. We, in Sporting News, have got a rocket scientist in Bill Bender. He can agree or disagree with that. Bill Bender, welcome in. How are you?
I don't know about that.
Doing well. I hope you guys, I wanted to say off the top, you know, our college football preview magazine and so many others. ESPN has one.
Aslan has one. So, if you're heading out to the beach, pick up ours. It's the yellow one. It's very, very yellow. I don't know if you guys can tell you that.
Bill, do us a favor. Let's be good about those cheaper ones, okay? Let's talk about the only one that matters.
If we could just beg you to give us a sneak peek of what's between the covers, where would you start as far as Alabama and Auburn?
What's the vibe at the Sporting News for those respective teams?
Well, you know, I think Alabama's right in about the same range as last year.
You know, I'm working on, Brett mentioned quarterbacks. I'm working on the annual 1-to-138 coach rankings list, which I know we're going to talk about next week.
And, you know, you kind of, you can look at it one of two ways. You can say, hey, Alabama's lost eight games the last two years.
Or, you can say, coming off the playoff appearance, which is, as Brett mentioned with Nick Saban on Capitol Hill.
The playoff is the new standard of success. I mean, you go, you get in, you go from there. That's kind of how this works now.
Absolutely. Your comments on Nick Saban.
Notre Dame athletic director Pete Vacawa, Gordon Gee, who used to be the Vanderbilt president.
He's been two or three of them.
Teresa Gould, who is the Pac-12 commissioner.
I understand frustration is the key word now as far as looking at the future of sports.
Nick Saban went through the litany of the NIL progression for Alabama.
He also warned that non-revenue sports could become club sports if resources are not shifted toward that.
I don't know if they came into any real hard conclusions yesterday in trying to support Ted Cruz and Maria Cantwell's bill.
But your thoughts on Nick Saban's performance yesterday.
And once again, Bill, where are we going?
I mean, I think the hard part, well, a couple of things with what Coach Saban said.
One, how about how those numbers escalated with each year?
Yeah.
That was right.
Yeah, well, he used the analogy, I think he said Lamborghini.
And the part that really got me was, yeah, this turns into club sports for everyone else.
And here's the problem.
Football's making a ton of money.
And so that vehicle used to be driven, I think I got that right, to fund the other sports so we can enjoy softball.
I know you guys had baseball on the TVs in the last month, lacrosse, those kind of things.
But now all of that money's going to football, and if that happens and they privatize, those other sports probably do go club.
So it's hard to square.
And I think Saban and Bavacqua, they had some good points, but I don't know if we're driving toward a solution, and that's probably the hard part.
Well, Bill, to your point, obviously, I think Nick put it as well as you could.
He says he's not against NIL.
He just don't want everybody driving 120 in a school zone.
You've got to have some rules.
And a case in point is this week, Bill.
We've been talking about this, but now that you're on, and since you brought up that point,
is the college softball World Series where Alabama has, at least what my research says, zero NIL money.
Texas Tech has almost $4 million.
Their opponent in the championship series, Texas, has almost $4 million.
Here's the problem with it.
How in the world can you level the playing field, call it student-athletes, call it college, call it amateur sports,
if somebody's got this billionaire with an ego and a big bank account spending basically peanuts by his standard of living,
bringing in his kids, making a million dollars in softball,
how in the world can this sustain itself outside of just maybe a Super 4-5 league team across the nation?
Yeah, I mean, Bavacqua talked about the Super League, Harold, right?
He pretty openly presents a case where, hey, man, Notre Dame would be playing Penn State.
Alabama, Georgia, I'm kind of on, I mean, I'm very intrigued by it.
I know it would be bad for the health of the sport in terms of it's no longer national,
you're closing off some audience, but I mean, that product would be pretty good, at least for a while.
So, I'm intrigued by it, and I'm wondering if, and I've kind of said this, I think, on this show before,
I'm wondering if college football shouldn't go into, like, it's almost like the FBS is almost like three separate divisions for me.
It's the heavy hitters, it's that middle tier that would benefit from a 2014 playoff, and then it's the G6 schools.
It's kind of like high school football to me.
Like, there's certain schools that just have more than others do.
That's the way it is.
It's interesting that Nick Saban is in Washington taking his stance, which, by the way, is 180 from the league he used to sit here
and talk about, the SEC and the Big Ten.
Rarity, do those two leagues agree on anything?
But, let's face it, at the end of the day, they want to keep all their toys themselves, and you can't blame them from a business standpoint.
But, back to Nick Saban, is it safe to say that this man, he could see where nobody else could.
He saw what was coming.
How big of an influence did the fact that Nick Saban woke up one day and says,
you know, this old recipe is not going to win me a blue ribbon at the county fair anymore.
It's time to hang it up, go to the beach, go to ESPN, cash those checks, and the heck with his stress.
I think I see the same thing Nick Saban sees.
You know, it's all about money and TV now.
Now, you know, some might eye-roll Saban based on this notion of, well, how were you so successful at Alabama when he, you know,
we don't know.
There was never anything proven.
There was a couple NCAA violations, nothing too serious.
But, you know, we can make assumptions.
But I still think it came down to what Nick Saban always said in his press conferences,
and I believe on some level, the best thing Alabama did under him was produce and develop a ton of NFL first-round talent.
How they got him there, we can discuss.
But now, with those numbers about how much guys are getting paid, you can.
Like you said, Harold, Texas Tech.
I'm not citing, I'm not like singling out Cody Campbell, but, yeah, that's a big reason why they won the NFL last year.
Yeah, that's a fact.
Well, and here's the bottom line, Bill.
Let's go to football.
You've got kids.
Let's just take Carson Beck last year.
How did his salary compare with some of his assistant coaches on that staff who were telling him what to do?
In other words, it's like Major League Baseball now.
You've got a superstar and a manager making probably maybe a million, you know, or maybe two.
And this guy is raking in $20 million or more a year.
I mean, in a way, the same blueprint for college football now where a kid is making more than a lot of coaches on the staff.
But not the head coach.
But not the head coach.
Yeah.
But his position coach, yeah.
Yeah.
And I think head coach buyouts and those kind of things also need addressed, too.
I mean, we can make the argument, we've done it on this show, and I've done it up here, is I can make a strong argument that Ryan Day is one of the most important economic employees in the state of Ohio.
Probably, yeah.
Because of what the Ohio State money machine drives.
Right.
Same with Saban down there.
Same with the Boer now.
I mean, he's riding a huge extension.
But, I mean, those are things that need to address, too, certainly.
I mean, the buyout money in college football is pretty absurd.
For coaches.
But, you know, maybe extending the playoff, expanding the playoff will help with that some, too.
Yeah, the buyouts have been ludicrous for years.
Let me ask you a component of this that a lot of people have not discussed.
The College Sports Commission is basically the NIL clearinghouse.
And, again, I don't care if you're the Qantas Club, Augusta National Golf Course, or college football.
You've got to have some rules.
And you've got to clear all of these NIL deals through the CSC.
Well, there's a glut of them now, as everybody can probably expect.
We are, again, most of these training camps are going to begin late July, the first week in August.
What if we get to that point and there are still 50 of the top NIL deals or even 25 that have not been cleared?
Are these players going to begin sitting out until they're cleared?
Probably.
I mean, that's part of the mess.
And, you know, we talked about this last week, Brett, where Kirby, when he was talking about breaking away, I don't think he was actually talking about, hey, the SEC needs to break away from every other college football team in the country and, you know, that kind of thing.
I think it was more about we need rules so that it doesn't happen.
You know, we need rules.
I think the other thing that Bavac was said yesterday, not to keep changing subject, but he was right.
You know, like, we need sanity with transfer portal.
We need sanity with eligibility.
We need sanity with the calendar.
And I think when those three things are fixed, it's going to, in large part, help and fix a lot of things in college football.
And that's what Kirby was talking about.
We don't have rules.
The Wild Wild West stuff, that's very real in college football right now.
Yeah, I don't care what entity you have, they've got to have some rules.
And you've got to follow those rules or you get out of the organization.
Two things before we go.
Wanted to congratulate you on the quarterback list.
I think it's a good one again.
Interesting.
CJ Carr, number three.
Arch Manning, the Summer of Arch, will continue at number two.
I agree with you.
I think Trinidad Chambliss, if he plays like he did against Georgia in that playoff game, my lord, look out.
Sam Leavitt at number 10.
You've got your quarterback list.
And tell us again about the sporting news preseason.
And I can't wait to get a copy of it, hopefully later this week.
Where can we get it?
And tell us a little bit more about it.
Well, I don't, it's pretty much any grocery store, right?
You know, from Walmart to Kroger to, you know, I forget which ones you guys are prominent.
Kroger's real prominent here.
That's the one I did.
I think we have it there.
Kroger was the one that I worked at in college as a, I bet you, you guys couldn't compete with me as a stockman at night.
And then the second question is, yeah, the quarterbacks, it was fun to put together.
Trinidad had a great year.
It's not an easy list to do.
I'm going to tell you, next week we'll be talking about my coach list.
I'm doing that one right now, and that will prompt plenty of arguments.
But, yeah, the magazine's great.
I thought the presentation was amazing.
The, you know, I have a lot of articles in there.
And I'm always, I was kind of pinched myself, Brett, because you're like, I read these things as a kid.
And they're still out.
And just to have a, I take a lot of pride in having a byline in there.
So I really appreciate it.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, you should.
And, well, as far as your personal stuff, Bill, where can we get that, my man?
Yeah, I'm at BillBender92 at SportingNews.com.
And, you know, getting ready for another weekend trip, a lacrosse tournament.
So it's going to be a lot of fun up here in Ohio this week.
Sounds great.
We can't, Brett and I can't wait for the magazine to come out.
We've got to wait until we get a bogo on it.
So we'll go from there.
But enjoy lacrosse and life, my friend.
Thank you so much for your time today.
Hey, anytime.
Thank you for having me on, guys.
Take care.
Deanna BB, Bill Bender, the Sporting News.
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Welcome back in.
Really appreciate it.
We ride around the Tennessee Valley.
Thank you.
Thank you very much, as Elvis would say.
And with that, we say hello to Michael Southern.
He's a co-host of the Blue Collar Podcast, basketball contributor for Locked on Bama,
the editor of Tide Hoops History, co-host of the Tide Machine Podcast.
And, by the way, knows what it's like to be at the Tuscaloosa News and the Gaston Tides.
Michael Southern, welcome in.
How are you?
I am doing great today, guys.
How are you all doing?
Hey, buddy.
Man, we're doing all right.
First time in a long time we've been able to say this.
Alabama is set to host a super regional in baseball, Michael.
How about that?
Yeah, it's been 20 years since they have been able to do that.
And I think the other time was back in 2006 with North Carolina.
I think that was still under Jim Wells, and they didn't win that one.
But this is the best opportunity Alabama is going to have to get back to Omaha,
which they haven't done since 1999.
So it looks like there's a lot of excitement.
I see a lot of information and news popping out that it looks like for a lot of the tickets,
I think they've sold out already.
So I think you're going to have to go on the secondary market if you still want to go,
which is a really good sign.
So I expect it's going to, even with the terrible 8 p.m. start Saturday night,
I expect a pretty good environment there at the Joe.
And the thing is I've seen even the Mayor, Walter Maddox, he got out early
because he saw some of the numbers with the regional and said,
not going to take any more things for granted.
He made a plea, and it sounds like the folks have responded.
Of course, when they show up, all they want is to win and then win again.
How interesting is this?
They're taking on St. John's.
It truly is a team of Cinderella-like players as far as the national script.
They're trying to keep the clock from striking midnight.
They go to Florida State and show that, hey, don't take us too lightly.
Your thoughts about Alabama as far as just on paper
and then the mindset of taking on a team like St. John's
because we saw it with Auburn and Milwaukee.
I think a lot of folks said they might have taken that team a little bit too lightly,
and then they had to fight back.
Well, I would hope that Coach Vaughn and the staff, there's one thing you can count on,
is with Alabama's inconsistency, they don't need to take anybody like that.
Nobody, really.
Yeah, especially with St. John's.
I mean, let's not forget, I believe this is the Big East regular season and tournament champions.
And look, you go into Tallahassee and you take out the home team from Florida State,
that's an accomplishment.
So, the biggest thing for Alabama, we've talked about this before,
they've got a solid starting rotation, which if it goes three games,
you're going to get to use probably all three starters.
Hopefully, you won't have to.
Hopefully, you just use two.
But the backbone that you build around is you're starting pitching.
The problem that you have is there are times when the bats are there,
there are times when the bats are not.
The biggest concern, guys, is the fielding.
This is one of the worst fielding Alabama teams I can remember.
So, that's a big concern from that standpoint.
Yep.
Listen, I don't know if the bad news, Bears had six errors in one game.
Alabama's done that a couple of times, which is incredible.
Let me ask you about Nate Oates.
I got amused this morning.
I was looking at Twitter when I first got up.
And it's the fourth of 32 technicals for Nate Oates going back to 2020 with Missouri.
Talk about how the series is going, number one.
And then, of course, the big news this week was Aidan Holloway entering the Second Chance program
to have the two felony drug charges dismissed.
I believe the two misdemeanors have been dismissed.
Now, again, he's got some things to do here.
Wrote an apology.
He's got to pay a fee, I believe, or a fine of $1,300.
Do some other things.
And then, once that's taken care of, there's a good probability that he can come back to the team.
But your thoughts on Aidan Holloway and then your fourth of the series of 32.
Yeah, so, you know, I'm very glad to see Aidan have an opportunity for redemption here.
You know, the Second Chance program here, you know, I was going to say, you know, if you guys are familiar with Martin Houston,
you know, he does his own local radio show here in Tuscaloosa every morning.
And he's actually a volunteer for the Second Chance program.
And he goes and speaks to each class that comes through that has this opportunity to have their records expunged
and do some community service and things like that.
And he talked about that this morning.
I listened to him this morning on the radio.
I'm not going to say there's, we don't know if he might actually be talking to Aidan Holloway when he comes through.
It would be, you know, pretty wild if he did.
But, you know, he talked about the merits of the program.
And I'm glad to see Aidan get an opportunity for this.
Look, you know, I know a lot of people, there are some hard liners just saying, kick him off the team.
You know, he doesn't need to be doing this.
I totally disagree with the circumstances of this case.
He does need an opportunity to redeem himself.
He does need to pay some price.
Look, he's already paid a good price.
I mean, he missed the NCAA tournament.
He hasn't been with his team.
He can't practice with the team.
For temporarily, he was not expelled from school, but he basically wasn't allowed on school campus until they got that rectified.
So don't think that he hasn't paid a price for what the rest of the country deems something very minor,
although, you know, it is still illegal in the state of Alabama.
So huge news.
You're right.
As long as Aidan fulfills all the obligations, he will have his record cleaned.
There will be no felony charges on there.
And I suspect that if all goes well, you'll see him back on the team, normal circumstances, enrolled as a student in the fall and back on the team with no issues as far as playability and eligibility from that standpoint.
And that's really important because whether Anderson Diaz reclassifies or not, you still need Aidan Holloway this year, no matter what.
That helps.
You know, right now, you know, right now your roster is at 13.
If Diaz were to somehow reclassify in the coming months, now you're at 14.
So you've got a pretty good roster coming up.
And the other thing as far as the technical fouls.
Right.
So something fun we always do.
We always do a summer series on Tide Hoops history.
And we're kind of kicking the can around what might be kind of fun because we like to do fun stuff.
And, you know, we thought about the fact that, you know, Coach Oates has 33 technical fouls in 32 games.
So we're like, well, let's just go ahead and spotlight all 32 games.
People may forget how far this goes back, but he jumped on it pretty quick even in his first season.
So his first season in 2019 and 2020, he had six games and six technicals.
It was pretty funny.
And, look, it's kind of hard to get game footage back in 19 and 20.
So I was only able to find a few press conferences here and there.
But as we get closer and closer, we'll be able to actually get video of him actually getting the technical foul.
So you'll see some future updates and posts with actual footage from the game where he's getting the team.
And let's not forget, there is one game out there where he got ejected.
And there's definitely a video of that.
So it's going to be a fun series for the rest of this month and the first week of July.
Absolutely.
Michael, the other thing I got tickled about was you list the officials.
There's Doug Schau.
Now, I don't know how many tees Doug Schau has given.
And Harold and I have talked about him and some of the other SEC officials that have been around for a while.
But that one did not surprise me in the slightest.
Listen, we've got to run to a French Open tennis update.
But tell us again quickly about the website, where we can get on in.
And will the fifth in the 32-part series be next week?
Well, it's daily.
Okay.
Okay.
It's a continuation of 32 straight days.
So today was the fourth of 32.
Just go to X and go to AdVamahistory or just do a search and expertise history and you'll find it.
But we'll have another one tomorrow and the day after and the day after until we get to 32 straight days.
And the thing is, Michael, we just got this note from Nate.
If you don't do that, he will ring you up.
He will give you a technical foul.
So no pressure, okay?
That sounds good.
I'm okay with that.
Thank you, bud.
Thanks so much.
Michael Southern, co-host of the Blue Collar Podcast.
Again, BB, in case you missed it.
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Welcome back in.
Really appreciate your ride around the Tennessee Valley.
And BB, obviously, efforting to hook up with Ryan Callahan.
He's busy there covering the big orange at Tennessee.
But, in the meantime, your thoughts.
I was out yesterday and crossed paths with a neighbor, and he's a big Alabama fan.
And, basically, he was trying to stay off medication with where things are right now as far as recruiting.
It's a different era out there.
It's early June.
They've already said they're going to be taking a smaller class.
What they have, they've got a collection.
It's a very interesting makeup, is it not with stars?
Because we all know, back in the day, this guy named Saban, anything less than a four, and it was almost instant panic.
Now, you see fives, but you also see threes, and not a lot of buzz about those guys.
Your thoughts about the makeup, where we're on the calendar, and the importance of practicing patience in 2026 as opposed to 2016.
Well, one of the reasons why the Fast Hores, or a lot of them, have not committed yet is they're taking their next four weeks for official visits.
The big dogs, as Pat Dye used to say, the big dogs come on the porch late.
Ryan has joined us again.
But, no, they just need to be patient.
Ryan can explain the recruiting calendar, but, no, Alabama fans, first of all, they're going to probably only end up signing by the time they get to December 12 to 15.
But there are four more weeks minimum of visits, and you're going to be seeing a lot more commitments come mid-July.
You know, the nice thing, and I'm sure Ryan will concur about this, about Tennessee fans, they never get upset about anything.
They're very patient.
Nine and three, as long as they get a participation trophy, I'm sure they're happy.
We can confirm that or not with Ryan.
Ryan Catlihan with Go Vols 24-7.
Ryan, welcome in.
Can you confirm that opinion?
How are you?
Yeah, doing well.
Yeah, I mean, I think in the SEC, they're known for just all these programs.
The only thing that tops their passion is their patience.
That's right.
Patience!
I don't want patience.
I want it yesterday, Ryan.
It's crazy out there.
Is it safe to say that Danny White is hearing the two words that every AD loves out there, and that's sold out when it comes to season tickets?
Remember, speaking of the aforementioned Nick Saban, when he was kicking A across the league, seats at Nayland Stadium had more dust in my social calendar.
Is there good days or back other than not, Ryan?
Yeah, they are, no question.
On the financial side, on the ticket-selling side, they've been on a remarkably strong run here for a few years across multiple sports.
Baseball demand was so high under Tony Vitello, they were forced to expand Lindsay Nelson Stadium by a few thousand.
Basketball continues to draw consistently over 20,000, selling out a lot of its SEC games.
And on the football side, four straight years now that they've sold out of season tickets.
And going back to 2022, their sellout streak of 20-plus games.
So pretty impressive what they've done, but no secret to it, they've been winning more than they were before that.
And that's a big part of it, obviously.
And Josh Heifel's given them a fun product to sell.
The interesting thing about this year is hard to say what to make of the fact that the sellout streak will continue and the season tickets sold out again by the end of the spring.
Because they've got such a good schedule this year.
It's arguably Tennessee's best home schedule ever, or certainly one of their best ever, when you consider that they've got four big SEC games,
and three of them are at home with Alabama, LSU, and Texas all coming to New England Stadium.
So those three games alone made it a pretty easy sell to sell season tickets for Tennessee.
And I think they'd probably be selling out-of-season tickets even if there were a lot of 6-6, 7-5 projections out there for Tennessee,
which I guess they're not too far ahead of that anyway in some places.
But regardless, I think that schedule sells itself in a lot of ways.
Ryan, talk to us about that LSU game.
It's any time that LSU fans are crazy no matter where they play.
But let's face it, when this guy named Kiffin was at Ole Miss, we know what happened in one of his visits there.
Will they be selling us some extra mustard for this game this year?
Add the mustard, hold the golf balls is what they're hoping for this time.
But we'll see if they can get the fans to abide by that.
I mean, I don't know if you saw the Oxford, Mississippi Police Department sort of rolling their eyes
and saying thanks a lot for the night game when Ole Miss plays LSU this year.
That'll be a zoo down there.
They drink beer down there, by the way.
I've heard that.
So if that's the wildest scene this year in the SEC,
then I think Tennessee LSU has a chance to be right behind it, not too far down the list.
I mean, at least they've gotten that initial return by Lane Kiffin as a head coach out of the way
back when Ole Miss came to Tennessee.
But, yeah, you've got him at LSU now.
Should be a playoff contender this year if that team lives up to expectations.
Oh, by the way, you've got T. Martin,
the former Tennessee National Championship winning quarterback on that staff at LSU.
And Ed Orgeron, who was also at Tennessee with him back in the day and now back at LSU.
So, yeah, some fun connections there that should make that an interesting game for sure.
Tennessee's just hoping that's a meaningful game for them because it's the next-to-last game of the regular season.
They've got a lot of big ones to play before then, and they'll be coming off a trip to Texas A&M the week before.
That's a tough spot for Tennessee.
And also right before what will probably be an important game this year at Vanderbilt to end the regular season
after they lost to Vanderbilt last year at home.
Let me ask you about the future of college football, and I'm going to dovetail this back to Tennessee.
Nick Saban testified yesterday in front of the Senate Commerce Committee, of course,
about the Protect College Sports Act.
He is for it.
I know the SEC and the Big Ten came out with a public statement a couple of days ago
saying there are things about it that they do not like.
The Notre Dame AD and some others testified about it, too.
And, again, nobody's going to agree on all this stuff, but I do agree with the one-year transfer, five years to play five.
They wanted to try to restrict the agent's fee to 5%, the Chuckle Lane Kiffin rule.
But Danny White has been rather vocal, and he's using the two words that the NCAA and a lot of people have tried to forget about
or not even think about, and that's collective bargaining.
He is for a 2014 playoff, and he has always been for collective bargaining.
Your thoughts on what happened yesterday in Washington, and Danny White is an interesting guy
when it comes to talking about the future of college football.
Yeah, he is an interesting guy.
He tries to be, I think, a little bit on the forefront of what needs to happen
and what he thinks is going to happen across college sports.
I think that's your job as an athletic director.
You've got to see the big picture and hopefully see it before your peers if there's any competitive advantage to be gained.
But, yeah, he's been pretty adamant about this from the start, that the only real solution he sees is collective bargaining,
and he thinks or he's afraid that too many of his peers are going to drag their feet on reaching that conclusion.
I think he's just been skeptical of the only other solution, which is congressional action.
He's been skeptical that that's going to work out now, and we'll see if they can get the support for that.
That was an interesting day in Washington for sure.
So, at least it's maybe a step towards some sort of framework that they can rely on.
But until that happens, Danny White just knows that all the discussions that take place are just delaying the inevitable,
the way he sees it.
Because unless you get that antitrust exemption, any sort of rules, guardrails, whatever you want to call them,
that you put in place is going to be challenged in court.
And we've seen it with too many of these players seeking additional eligibility.
Any money issues can end up in court.
There's just too many things that legal action as opposed to the NCA action are now the rule of the land.
So, I think he's got a valid point.
But, yeah, the big wild card in that is can Congress do anything?
And if they do, that obviously would take care of that problem.
They've just been slow to do that to this point, and not a lot happens in Washington a lot of times anyway.
A lot of things stay the same.
So, I think there's been a lot of skepticism on a lot of ends in college sports about whether that would be the answer.
Congress, not only can they not pass a bill, they can't pass anything even down the hall.
So, good luck with that one.
Look, we're going to be talking about this this time next year because all they're going to do is kick it down the road
until Perry Mason and Matlock team up inside on the right side of that argument.
But, in the meantime, Ryan, let's talk about Tennessee recruiting.
Kind of give us a perspective.
DeBoer has already said Alabama is going to have a smallish class by comparison.
Your thoughts about where things are with Tennessee on the recruiting calendar and, as far as size, where's Tennessee?
What are their expectations for this class?
Yeah, so they're in an interesting spot.
They're at nine commitments right now for the 2027 class.
And not extremely high in the rankings right now, but that's not all that unusual.
They're one of those schools that typically goes on a big run in the summer, and there's a lot of those.
But they tend to get half or more of their class in the month of June, July, and August.
So, you kind of have to wait and just see how it all plays out over the next two months or so before reaching any conclusions.
I sound like a broken record, I think, on Go Vols 24-7 because this conversation almost always comes up in May or June at some point.
What's going on in recruiting?
Why don't they have more commitments?
Why all these other schools are adding players and Tennessee's not?
And last year, I had to remind people, Tennessee was ranked in the 50s nationally at some point in the first two weeks of June before going on that summer run.
They ended up with a top-10 class that was Josh Heupel's best at Tennessee.
So, you just don't know at this point in the year what's going to happen, and there's too many things still in play to really even tell you how it's going to go.
But I do think they're going to end up with a class of 20-plus still.
High school recruiting is an interesting discussion these days because so many people are wanting to save money for the transfer portal
and not burn too much of it on players who might not contribute much as true freshmen, at the very least, if not for a couple years in many cases.
So, that's a discussion Tennessee's having just like other schools, but I think they still see the value in signing a good number of high school players.
It's just going to be interesting to see what caliber of players some of those are.
Will you have a weaker bottom half of the class, maybe?
Because what's happening in some cases is those high three-star and mid three-star players that Tennessee and other schools used to fill out their class with,
those types of players are getting scooped up by schools like Kentucky, NC State.
Those types of programs are able to throw more money at those players because everyone has money.
And so, now those players that might not be worth as much to a school like Tennessee and other schools willing to outspend you and make things tough.
So, how they fill it out will be fascinating, but I think they definitely plan to still add, you know,
probably a dozen or more players here over the next few months.
And, you know, which ones they get, we'll see.
Let me ask you about two potential recruits.
Four-star tight end Malik Howard, 6'3", 230-ish, 53 catches, 778 with Oak Ridge.
Seems to be, again, according to some reports, between Tennessee and Oregon.
And then what I call a scat back, 5'8", 177.
But, boy, he's a dynamic playmaker.
Four-star wide receiver Eric McFarlane.
Tennessee has certainly been in on him, considered to be the number six wide receiver nationally for 24-7 sports.
Your thoughts on Malik Howard and McFarlane.
Yeah, well, Malik Howard here locally, just down the road in Oak Ridge,
has been a big target for Tennessee for almost two years now.
He's been in Tennessee a bunch of times.
He was just on campus less than two weeks ago for their 865 live events they have leading into official visits.
And then his official visit to Knoxville is this weekend, so that's a big, big visit.
Tennessee hoping, if it can, to close that one out as early as, you know, in the next few days.
But, you know, as you said, Oregon, Notre Dame is the other school that's been heavily involved there.
That official visit has been on the books for next weekend.
He's made it clear, though, he's moving toward decision pretty quickly,
and probably will make one here in the next couple weeks if everything holds according to plan.
So, you know, this is a big visit for Tennessee.
They, I think, have some momentum going into this one.
There's reason to think they could keep him home.
But you see more and more of these recruitments.
They can go sideways at the last minute.
You just never know.
Tennessee missed out on a local player here last month,
Terrell Chandler, a four-star safety slash linebacker, ended up laying toward Miami.
Then a couple days later it was Tennessee.
Then he ends up committing to Clemson by the time he announces.
So you just, you can't guarantee that those homegrown kids are going to stay home these days.
But that's one Tennessee would certainly love to keep in East Tennessee.
And then Eric McFarland, Tennessee had him on an official visit a couple weeks ago.
Made a good impression there.
There's been more buzz about Texas A&M in particular and a couple other schools involved there.
Florida hosts him this weekend on what should be his final visit.
So some important visits still taking place there, but Tennessee's at least in the mix.
And they've already got one highly ranked receiver in this class in Keyshawn Bowman.
Would love to add him to go along with it, but that one might be a tough one for them to win out in the end.
But Texas A&M and some others really making him a big priority.
Ryan Callahan, go ball 24-7 tonight, game one of the College World Series when it comes to softball.
Texas is there after beating Tennessee twice in one day.
Texas Tech is there after beating Alabama twice in one day.
We've seen their NIL budgets respectively.
We've seen Alabama's.
Ryan, where's Tennessee's, how much of the pie does Tennessee softball get of NIL money?
Well, so on the revenue sharing side, we do know those numbers.
On the NIL side, how much they might be getting, you know, beyond that from whatever, you know, third-party deals still exist in this current framework is hard to say.
But on the revenue sharing side, Tennessee's model has been, you know, basically 75% for football, 15% for men's basketball, 5% for baseball, and then 5% for all other sports.
With 4% out of that 5% going to women's basketball.
So basically, not a whole lot for softball and other sports.
So you would think there's got to be some third-party dealings there to sort of offset that.
But it's a tricky deal.
There's not enough money to go around, and Tennessee has made it clear.
You know, Danny White loves the tag-everything school.
They don't consider themselves just a football school, just a basketball school.
They want to be competitive in all of it.
They've obviously done a good job in softball, had trouble getting over the hump, but they've been in the Women's College World Series and been in the mix several times now.
So, you know, can they remain competitive on the NIL front?
That's an interesting discussion when you've got, you know, at least four or five other sports hoping to get their piece of the pie, too, and there's just not enough to go around.
And obviously, football, such a drain on resources with how much money there is funneled toward that sport.
So, yeah, I don't know exact numbers on that, but we know that based on the revenue-sharing pie, it's not a very big share.
And there was a big discussion there over how the baseball program versus women's basketball, how that money was divided.
Some frustration maybe on Tony Vitello's end before he left Tennessee.
Don't think that's why he left, but it was a discussion.
So, with those two programs fighting over it, you know there's less for softball than those two.
So, it's a tough deal for athletic directors to manage that.
We talked about Tennessee baseball being up and down.
And when you follow a legend in Tennessee baseball with Vitello, we knew that it was not going to be maybe the best of years, and that ended up more or less happening.
But you know this league.
There are seven SEC teams in Super Regional.
In fact, there are so many of them, four are playing each other.
How many of the seven SEC teams advanced to the College World Series?
That's a good question.
I mean, obviously, any of those teams that have reached this point are capable of getting there.
You know, you see some years where it's, you know, five or six.
I'm trying to think over all the matchups off the top of my head here, but I feel like four is probably a good number.
I think somewhere around half the field in Omaha ends up being SEC teams.
It's set up well for some of them.
You know, it's hard.
There's a lot of parity in that sport these days.
Tennessee found out the hard way last week, losing to a three-seed and then a four-seed to go two and out as a number two seed in the Chapel Hill Regional.
So, you know, it's an unpredictable sport these days.
LSU can go from national champion to winning nine games in SEC play.
It's hard to predict one weekend to the next.
But, yeah, I think four sounds about right, and the SEC, you know, strong showing so far and not surprising with the depth in that league and that sport.
Yeah, and I've got a little bit of March Madness in me towards the Cinderella.
Kind of nice to see Little Rock, Troy, Cal Poly, St. John, West Virginia.
Teams that you normally don't associate.
In fact, I think all of the teams that made the College World Series are out of this, which, quite frankly, is amazing to me.
Listen, a lot of things going on.
Recruiting, wrap-up of softball and baseball.
Football is always here.
Where can we get online to get all your great stuff?
Yeah, we've been tracking the whole Chaz Coleman saga in Tennessee with the state transfer not being involved in off-season workouts and things like that,
as it looks to be headed toward an inevitable end, perhaps, at some point.
But regardless, got that to keep track of in addition to all that.
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So, big weekend for Tennessee on the recruiting front.
Got it all covered for you at GoVols247.com.
Ryan, keep up the five-star coverage.
And thanks so much for your time today.
Absolutely.
Thanks a lot, guys.
Thank you, bud.
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I'm Harold Bugg alongside Brett Beaird.
Thank you so much for giving us free ride around the Tennessee Valley.
And for Logan Fowler to take time out of his busy schedule.
Busy there covering Auburn at 1819 News.
Logan, welcome in.
What better way to tee up the second hour than talking with you about Auburn sports.
How are you?
I'm doing very well, guys.
How are y'all?
Man, we're doing almost as well as the Auburn golf team.
What's going on in the water, Logan?
We joked earlier they're going to have to go get some more toilet paper for Toomer's Corner.
First, celebrating a national title at the NIT in basketball.
And now, just a few weeks later, celebrating another national championship on the golf links.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, this Auburn men's golf team has been the best team in the nation, you know, consistently
over the year, and they've, you know, obviously been tabbed over the last few years as a national contender.
This is the second time in the last three years that this Auburn men's golf team has won a national title.
You know, yesterday's match against UCLA, they went in 4-1.
They never trailed.
It was honestly just pure domination from this Auburn team.
I think the only match that they lost was Josiah Gilbert, who, you know, he had a great day in the semifinals.
So, I mean, that's no shot at him.
But, yeah, I mean, Auburn, it was pretty much pure domination against UCLA en route to another national title.
I think this is a sign of things to come, that Auburn's going to continuously, you know, be on top of the leaderboard, you know, in the college golf world.
I think that obviously you're never going to have another, or, well, I'm not going to say never, but Jackson Coyvins are not, you know, growing on trees everywhere.
So, you're obviously going to miss him.
He has another year if he wants to come back, but I believe he's going to take his talents to the pro ranks.
But, yeah, I mean, it's really nice to see, you know, I was telling somebody yesterday, I was like,
Auburn's really kind of got it figured out in a lot of sports.
I mean, now you just kind of need football and softball and maybe women's basketball to pick it up.
But Auburn's seeing a lot of success in, you know, in these sports such as golf and men's tennis and things like that.
Let me ask you about men's basketball.
We found out yesterday they're going to be playing Middle Tennessee State in Huntsville, Alabama at the Rocket City Classic at Probst Arena.
I believe their second time.
This is the fourth or will be the fourth Rocket City Classic in Huntsville, Alabama was there with Kennesaw State last December.
And that game is four days before Auburn plays Wisconsin in Nashville.
Again, another tough preseason schedule.
Auburn's going to be participating in the Players' Era Tournament with West Virginia, Kansas, or UNLV in another team yet to be announced, I believe.
But Steve and Pearl ended the season on a good note, and Auburn is, you well know, and we do, they've got quite an alumni base in North Alabama.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what North Auburn's what they call it up there, you know, in the Huntsville and the Nashville area.
You know, if Auburn's ever playing semi-close to the state of Alabama, you're going to have a good showing from Auburn fans.
You know, I was actually, this has nothing to do with the basketball crowd, but I was telling somebody the other day, you know, look at the, everybody, everybody mentions the Auburn family.
And I know it's cliche and all, but I looked at the baseball crowd at 1 a.m. the other day, and I'm like, tell me another, show me another school that's doing that, right?
I mean, it shows up in not just football, it shows up in basketball and baseball, you know, and there's people traveling for all these sports.
Auburn fan base certainly does show up and show out, but yep, this will, the Rocket City Classic, that'll be Auburn's second time participating in that event where they took down UNC Asheville, I think it was 87-62 in the first year of the event in 2023.
So, it's a good way for the Auburn fans up north to get to see this Auburn basketball team in person, because, you know, it's certainly a tough ticket, a tough grab to catch them in Neville Arena.
And the thing is, Logan, that North Alabama area, particularly there in the city of Huntsville, it's rich with high school basketball talent, so it's never a bad thing to get up and make connections there.
Your thoughts about year two, obviously the honeymoon's over, it's a, if we could go back and re-cue the show from last year, we were talking about Bruce Pearl's team coming in, and then we know what happened in the 11th hour, everything shifted, yeah, Coach Pearl was there, but it was Steven, not Bruce.
We know there was a lot of on-the-job training last year, not a lot of time to learn and get acclimated to it right before this opening tip-off, but now the lessons have been learned, you've gone to the school of hard knocks, your thoughts just realistically about what Auburn basketball fans can see from year two of Steven Pearl.
Yeah, I mean, I think he learned a lot in his first year, and then obviously you're riding the momentum of an NIT championship into this season, you know, regardless of if it's an NIT championship or a NCAA championship, it was good to see nonetheless for that group.
You know, obviously you have three returners, and the Hot Pettiford kind of headlines that group, I think you're going to, you know, he started off last season kind of shaky, but he really showed and progressed and came along towards the end of the year.
I think he's going to pick up right where he left off, and that's huge, especially to pair with another guy like George Kimball, who, you know, we've talked about before, is a big defensive guy.
He sat out medically redshirted last year at Vanderbilt, but off the top of my head, I believe it's Eastern Kentucky he was at, and prior to that, and he was averaging 18 points a game, and he's a defensive threat.
But I think the biggest thing for this Auburn team is that they added a lot of size, you know, down low, and they have some threats on the outside to score.
I actually saw a video that the Auburn media team put out on social media of Adam Olsen shooting the basketball and just to shoot around at practice, and he's got a really smooth stroke coming over from South Alabama.
You know, he's going to be tabbed as one of the best three-point shooters, really, in the country, but in the SEC, nonetheless.
I just think that you're going to see where Auburn struggled a little bit last year, maybe defensively and down low, scoring points in the paint.
I think you're going to see Auburn improve in those areas this year, and I think they're just going to be, overall, a more well-rounded group.
And then, obviously, you've got Stephen Pearl, who was thrown under the fire last year, and I think he's going to take a lot of lessons from a year ago and learn from those this year.
I would certainly expect Auburn to, you know, make a little bit more noise in the SEC and then, obviously, make it into another NCAA tournament.
Let me ask you about Auburn baseball.
They did it the hard way, but they've advanced to the Super Regional.
They're going to be hosting Ole Miss, who's a pretty good team.
Mike Bianco has won the best coaches.
In fact, I think they're two of the best coaches in the nation in this series.
Ole Miss doesn't do a lot of things fancy.
They basically wait for the three-run homer.
Their defense is very solid.
I think the best thing that they do is their pitching.
They've got an ERA of 4.40, which you think, well, that's not very good.
Well, in the SEC it is.
But your thoughts.
I know one thing.
If Chase Fralick has about 13 more RBIs in the series, I think Auburn's got a good chance of winning it.
But your thoughts, Ole Miss, at Auburn this weekend?
Yeah, I think that this matchup really bodes well for Auburn.
I think that, you know, certainly you cannot overlook anyone, especially a team who's competed in the SEC like Ole Miss.
But during postseason play, you're not counting, you know, you're not overlooking anyone.
Ole Miss, you know, winners of the Lincoln Regional, they swept for the pair of wins over Arizona State
and went over to Nebraska, sandwiched in there.
You know, you mentioned that the pitching staff, I think, is where, you know, is their bread and butter is where they make their money.
The reason I think that this matchup bodes well for Auburn is because if you get, you know,
what you got on the back end of the Regional from your pitchers and your arms with Andreas Alvarez,
Alex Petrovic really kind of kick-started the turnaround for the Auburn on the rubber last weekend.
You know, if you get what you got out of those guys in the latter half of the Regional,
I like where this Auburn team sits.
I think that they'll be able to hold the Ole Miss, you know, offense at bay
and just get half the production that you got out of your office last week.
And, again, I do.
I think you're, you know, I think you're set.
I think that it's going to be another fun weekend.
The weather looks a little bit better.
You know, I think that Auburn, obviously, Monday night they set an attendance record of over 8,000 fans were in attendance.
So, you know, it was fun.
I was not able to be there last weekend.
I had a scheduling conflict.
But, you know, I think that you could feel, Bush Thompson mentioned it, like he just felt a different connection.
And you could kind of feel it over the television broadcasts.
You know, the fan base really rallied behind those guys, and it was awesome to see.
And, obviously, with the big soccer match coming up on Tuesday, I think Auburn's going to be a really crowded place this weekend.
I think that you're going to see another, you know, attendance record broken this weekend.
But I do.
I like Auburn's chances to potentially sweep, you know, and not even have to play Sunday against the Ole Miss team.
With soccer coming in, some people on the planet will be speaking English this weekend, right?
So, that's all.
I mean, yeah.
Somebody showed me the map that Auburn put out, and the tickets were coming from all over the country.
So, there's going to be a lot of people in Auburn, Alabama this week.
Talk to us about the intangibles.
Obviously, I think it goes without saying, Auburn got the ultimate wake-up call.
I think down south, where I grew up, as always, the term was lollygagging in that first game against Milwaukee.
I think the lesson has been learned, don't you?
Yeah, you know, I think that it has.
I think that why I like this Ole Miss matchup is because you did it already.
You know, you went five straight weekends there to end the SEC season against top-ranked, top-ten-ranked teams.
Top-ten-ranked teams.
And you went and you won.
And you reeled off five straight series wins in the SEC this year.
So, you're comfortable playing at this level.
You know, I'm not going to, again, I'm not going to say that they overlooked Milwaukee in that first game.
And I really, truthfully, have to tip my cap to Milwaukee.
They just played really well.
Obviously, Marciano and that staff probably weren't on their A game.
But, I mean, Milwaukee swung the bat extremely well.
And I was listening to, you know, another beat writer who was talking about it said, you know,
I think that Auburn really lucked up in the way they lost.
You know, you go down 10-0, you don't have to burn, you know, extra arms.
You kind of hand it off to somebody else and see if you can reel off a win that way.
But I don't see Auburn getting, you know, down in a 10-run hole against Ole Miss.
I think that they learned their lesson this week and they don't want to put themselves in a position where they have to fight extra hard again to make it to Omaha.
Yeah, and Ole Miss strikes out a lot, too.
That's one of their bugaboos with it.
Let me ask you about recruiting.
Auburn's taking a back seat to the big soccer match and then also baseball.
Auburn landed, I believe they're now at 14.
They landed a linebacker from Biger, four-star Isaac McNeil, 92 tackles last year.
Picked up three-star defensive back Aiden Wiggins from South Carolina.
And picked up another running back, three-star Kingston Miles from St. Louis.
And we've got a long way to go with this, with the visits.
But Auburn doing pretty well right now as far as commitments.
Oh, my goodness.
I couldn't even keep up with it this weekend.
With Alex Golesh tweeting out all the Eagles on Twitter, you know,
I think he got seven or eight Eagles just kind of hinting to the Auburn fan base what was to come.
And he got five commitments over the weekend, like you mentioned.
Auburn's up to 14 now in the 20-27 class.
And Isaac McNeil was the latest one.
He was the fifth of the weekend.
And after his commitment, they bumped up into the top 20.
They got up to number 17, but back down to 19 now according to 247 Sports.
He was probably, I guess, the headliner of the weekend.
He's now your second-highest-ranked commit in the class, number six linebacker
and second-ranked player in Alabama, a top 100 commit.
You mentioned Aiden Wiggins, Noah Ash, a kicker, who 247 Sports has ranked as the second-ranked kicker,
who, you know, after studying up on special teams, coach Jacob Bernowski way back when he was hired,
if he likes him, then Auburn fans should like him.
So I think this is a big pickup, especially with Alex McPherson probably out if he has a good season.
You add another running back, Kingston Miles, like you said,
and I think that's a sign of things to come with how Auburn and this new staff really wants to run the football.
But, yeah, we talked about the momentum that would stem from Big Cat and, you know,
how this staff really wanted to build relationships in the southeast.
And the summer months are always big for recruiting.
And, you know, nowadays you're starting to see where recruits will jump on board before the season starts,
and maybe recruiting starts dwindling down a little bit during the season.
Obviously, you still have visits, and it's still a priority, but we're kind of starting to see the trend of early commitments.
Now, obviously, the task is you have to hold on to them until National Signing Day.
But all in all, I do really like how this class is coming together,
and I think that Alex Golesh and his staff are going to continue to hit the trail really hard.
Logan, and I think a lot of folks are asking the question right now as far as total numbers.
What's interesting is we see the rosters with the option in a way of expanding to, what, 105?
But some teams are saying, I'm only going to take a small class.
I'm only going to take 17, 18, 19.
I think that's what DeBoer's theory is across the state of Alabama.
As far as numbers, what kind of size-wise are we looking at for this Auburn class?
Yes, I don't have a number off the top of my head, necessarily.
You know, last year was certainly a smaller class in terms of high school recruiting.
Obviously, he didn't have much time to reel in a big class.
I think you might see that number jump up to the 20 to 25 range this season,
maybe take a little bit less off the portal.
You know, he did mention in his opening presser that he does kind of want to build this thing
through the high school ranks.
So, I think you're going to see the final class number end up between 20 to 25.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, listen, great stuff.
A lot of stuff going on down there, certainly recruiting behind the scenes.
But the big soccer match Tuesday, you're right.
I bet you can't get around down there Monday and Tuesday,
much less over the weekend for baseball.
Logan, where can we get online to get all your good stuff, bud?
Yes, sir.
You can catch me over at 1819news.com and on Exit, Logan F. Fowler.
I was joking with somebody yesterday.
It's a good thing that Auburn got the Friday, Saturday, Sunday series,
because if they would have had that Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
that's four straight days of just chaos in downtown Auburn.
Hey, buckle up, stay safe.
We look for your coverage down there, Logan,
and thanks so much for your time, Dave, okay?
Absolutely.
Appreciate you guys.
Thank you, bud.
Logan Fowler going on with us, 1819news.
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Welcome back in.
Really appreciate it.
We ride around the Tennessee Valley.
Coming up just around the corner,
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and get the beer later.
Just tied talk with the one, the only, Ryan Fowler.
But BB, obviously, very interesting time on the calendar.
It's always been.
But 2026 compared to 2016-10 years ago.
Very interesting scenario as far as the recruiting rankings.
I don't know how much stock we put into it.
We were joking earlier about Bama fans have crossed paths.
It was a big one yesterday.
Very cautious right now about where this class is.
We got done talking to our friend, Ryan Callahan.
Tennessee fans very cautious about where things are right now.
But to give you a perspective, and that's all it is,
it's still early in the process.
Basically, it's six months away from that really in turn
of the only signing day that comes up,
and that's that first Wednesday in December.
But right now, USC is at the head of the class, BB.
No surprise there.
They got the brand and all that good stuff.
Notre Dame, how about that?
They're number two.
Ohio State, three.
Oregon, four.
This is, by the way, according to on3.com,
kind of the composite rankings, if you will.
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Bill Shanks, is number five, Georgia.
Bill Shanks, the number six team on the rankings right now,
is Alabama.
So if you're number six the first weekend
or first week of June, BB,
I don't necessarily see where the angst is,
especially in this modern era.
By the way, Bill Shanks has been listening
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Hi, Bill.
How are you, bud?
Just text me a few minutes ago.
Again, it's still very early.
We'll know a lot more about this.
Again, I know the signing date, Harold,
is officially the first Wednesday in December.
The unofficial signing date right now is August 1st
because that's what has happened
the last two or three years.
The recruiting calendar is really
a little bit fluid right now.
But it's really changed to a point to where
most of these guys take their visits
through mid-July.
And then they sit down with their families
and go through their pro and con list,
as we discussed a little bit yesterday.
And then they make a decision
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And again, Alabama is going to have a smaller clash.
Now, I'll say this.
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Tay Phillips, a running back from Columbia, South Carolina.
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He's going to announce his commitment June the 8th,
later this week, and has, ironically,
an official visit to Alabama the next weekend.
So I think we're going to know.
I knew Alabama was going to take two running backs.
Ron Yor mentioned this yesterday.
But yeah, the recruiting rankings right now
are going to continue to be very fluid.
That sound that you're hearing,
what about Auburn?
Right now, they've had a flurry, BB.
And here's what's ironic about it.
As we just got done talking there with Logan Fowler,
they've had a big flurry.
Yet, On3.com still has them at 42nd overall right now.
Well, some of that is, Harold,
they've signed a lot of four stars.
But Auburn is going to have a very good class.
I think Auburn ends up somewhere,
as Logan said,
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They're going to sign more than Alabama.
He wanted to come in and make a point of this.
But I mentioned these guys a little bit earlier.
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You mentioned three-stars, BB.
Your message to fans who are up in arms right now,
why are they signing all those three-stars?
To me, it's a matter of budget.
They're trying to get a bargain basement value
to supplement those five-stars
as opposed to your days
when they just want to load up on four and fives.
Now, it's about meeting your budget
and trying to get a steal out there.
Yes, absolutely.
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Probably French fries,
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Now,
back with Boomo Bugg
on 93.9 The Score.
Take him back in.
He is the hardest working man.
I don't care
if he is home
in Tuscaloosa
or kicking up the sand
at Sandest.
Would you totally agree
with that, Bibi?
I would totally agree
with it, yes.
Ryan Fowler's always busy
on top of the ball there.
109 FM
in Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
Ryan, welcome in.
How are you?
Hey, it's good
to be home with you.
Hey, buddy.
Hope you guys
are having a good day.
So far, so good.
Yeah.
Are you ready
for a little baseball?
Super regionals, Ryan?
First time we've been able
to say this a long time.
Are you getting ready
for some super action
on the diamonds
in your backyard
this weekend?
Well, we are.
We are,
and I'm actually
on campus now,
so I'm fixing to be
leaving ahead
of the radio station
here in a couple seconds.
But, and...
Sorry, I was leaving
a place of business
my spot by bad.
But no, it's...
Campus is really buzzing.
Obviously, they've had
a big push
for the attendance
this weekend.
Super regionals
should be pretty big.
And, you know,
I think when you
look at it
and you think
about the energy
and you think
about Greg Byrne
coming off the
College World Series
and Alabama softball
grabbing a lot
of attention,
rightfully so.
And then you look
at Alabama baseball,
you know,
these spring sports
are really clicking.
And I think
it's a credit
back to Greg Byrne
of what he's
been able to create
and being able
to manage it
during a very
challenging time.
It's, you know,
it's a unique world
that we live in.
And Alabama's
been able to manage
it, you know,
quite successful.
I mean, this is...
I guess you'd have
to go back to 2012,
the last time
that you saw
a program.
You know,
they'd won
the golf championship
and won the
softball championship.
Obviously, football
had won that year
as well.
That was a successful
year.
But, I mean,
up until that point,
I mean,
it was...
I mean,
this is a successful
year.
I mean,
I can't think of
another year
that matches
the things
that they've had,
whether it's been
basketball,
women's basketball,
track and field,
finished second
in the SEC.
So, it's a
difficult time,
but I'm glad
we've got an AD
that can navigate
some of these
challenging waters.
There's something
else that you've
got to throw in there,
and that's Coach Vaughn
and Coach Murphy.
They're able to do it
by comparison
with the restricted
budgets.
You look at some
of the competition,
you look at their
payroll,
you look at their
payroll from the
NIL proper,
and they are able
to squeeze
every bit of juice,
and even as much
as anything else.
You look at,
and I know we don't
sometimes invoke
both,
but Alabama and Auburn,
unless things have
changed in Montgomery,
they don't have
the benefits
of these other states
for the lottery,
like Georgia,
like Mississippi,
and some of these
surrounding states
in the SEC.
Yeah, but I think
NIL has helped
that some,
because you can
balance that out.
You know,
if you've got
funding,
you know,
I'm not saying
Alabama's doing this,
not saying Auburn's
doing this,
but some of these
states that don't
have the in-state
lottery,
the NIL can actually
be an equalizer.
Now, it can also
be a separator
if you've got a
program like LSU
who can do the state
scholarships and fund
NIL,
but it can give you,
you can go beyond
11.7 now,
you know,
because you can do
the NIL scholarships.
And so,
well,
you can offer them
cash,
and then they can
go pay the tuition
themselves.
So,
you know,
you look at a guy
like Justin LeBron,
I would imagine,
you know,
he's taking up
a scholarship.
He's probably getting
a lot of NIL as well,
but it,
you know,
when you look at
Rob Vaughn
building a program
at Maryland,
you know,
recruiting,
he's been able
to develop a program.
This is something
that they need.
If they can find a way
to get to Omaha
and get through,
this would be
a re-energize.
You know,
you guys,
you look back
in the early 2000s
when Wells
had it clicking.
You could go
and it was
standing room only.
And I try to tell stories
that you couldn't get
tickets to Alabama
baseball.
And people are like,
there's no way.
Because now you can
throw a hand grenade
out there,
even for last week's
regional,
and the chances are
you may not hit anybody.
But now,
with this program,
where it is now,
and if they can find
a way to get to Omaha,
it will bring
some of those fans back
who had left
the program.
Because,
and I almost wonder
sometimes if softball
didn't pull any
of those fans,
because Alabama fans,
you know,
they have a lot of pride.
They don't want to
support a losing program.
And Alabama baseball
had been through
some pretty rough years.
And I think Alabama
softball had captured
some of those fans.
And really,
softball is an
entertaining sport.
You know,
baseball sometimes
I don't think
matches up with
the average
human attention span.
because when you look
at the average
human attention span,
I feel like we've
been reduced.
Yep.
And baseball's
a slow-moving sport.
And softball's
that high-energy,
you know,
they get in and out
two hours and five minutes
is done.
Baseball,
not so much.
And,
you know,
it's kind of,
you know,
I described this
earlier on the show.
With softball,
it kind of reminds you
a little bit of
banana ball.
You know,
this trend that's
going across the country
with that energy
and the,
you know,
not that they're
being disrespectful
to the game
and they're not doing
some of those things,
but it's that high
level of energy
that softball
has been able to work.
But Rob Vaughn
with a trip to Omaha
can recapture that
in a hurry.
I agree with you.
Jim Wells
dominated
college baseball
in the late 90s.
Nick Saban
testified
in front of the
Senate Commerce Committee
yesterday
on behalf of the
Protect College Sports Act
talked about a lot
of things.
One more interesting
how Alabama's NL
gradually
increased
and escalated
for years
certainly after
he left.
But there was
a lot of blowback
on some of the comments
that he made
and you had
one of the best tweets
I've seen all week long
and I'll quote it here.
The truth is
many people
aren't upset
because of what
Nick Saban said.
They're upset
because of what
Nick Saban did.
For 17 years
he dominated
college football.
That's the reason
they're upset.
Yeah,
and this is the one area
that they can get it back.
And, you know,
I noticed
a lot of people
that follow me
from different fan bases
and the one rebuttal
is
when you get
your butt kicked
the only thing
that you can counter
is Nick Saban
cheated.
Okay?
Guys
covering Nick Saban
for 17 years
did he walk
in the gray area?
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
I'm sure he did.
But if Alabama
would have been
this big cheating school
where they were
paying players
left and right
all the time
well there would have
been no
there would have
been no problem
of getting the NIL
started
because they would
have just taken
that money
and rolled over
that slush fund
into the collective.
Yeah.
They didn't do that.
This collective
if you remember now
the collective
failed twice
prior to Yale,
Alabama.
It was called
what was it
High Tides Tradition
or something
and then there was
another one
that it failed.
In other words
they didn't have the money
they didn't
they didn't
so if this program
because the rebuttal
is always
well Nick Saban
cheated his way
to those championships
well that's just
because you don't
have anything else
to say
and you don't
want to go
to the deep
end of the pool
you want to stay
in the shallow
end of the pool
because I saw
so many reporters
come to Tuscaloosa
national reporters
trying to flip over
stones to try
to create
hey why did
why do these
players
afford Dodge
Challengers
or Chargers
or whatever they are
I mean those are
not very expensive
vehicles okay
there is a cost
of attendance
stipend
there's a room
and board
stipend
there's a
transportation
stipend
that's in
tuition
that every
school gives
it's not like
your students
are expecting
to ride
bicycles
but I just
kept watching
all these
different fan
bases
chime in
talking about
well Nick Saban
did this
Nick Saban
did this
well Nick Saban
won a lot of
games
and created
a lot of
hurt feelings
I mean he
hurt a lot
of feelings
he kept
a lot of
other teams
from winning
a national
title
but if
you listen
to Nick
Saban's
approach
yesterday
and if
you remove
his voice
and put
it with
anybody
if Tommy
Tuberville
stood up
there yesterday
as a
senator
and said
the same
thing
nobody would
have had
a problem
with it
but they
had a problem
because it
was coming
from Nick
Saban
he spoke
common
sense
yesterday
in
Washington
D.C.
but most
people don't
want to
accept it
if the
current trend
continues
right
let's have a
little fun
topic here
a little
fun
question
where is
college
football
going to
be
forget
five years
three years
go back
just
three years
ago
and fast
forward
to now
how things
have
changed
remember
what was
it
Bo
Nix
scandalous
he had
a deal
with Milo
tea
for a few
thousand dollars
and everybody
thought
oh my
gosh
you can't
even buy
the sugar
to go
for that
but what
are we
going to
be in
three years
if they
don't start
tapping the
break
somewhere
well I
think he
said it
you're going
to have to
start
canceling
sports
the club
sports
yeah
yeah
I mean
Gus
and there's
going to be
a few
programs
you know
think about
Cody Campbell
okay
he's invested
I don't know
probably a hundred
million dollars
in Texas Tech
and he's still
got that's
pocket change
well
and it is
but his return
on investment
other than a few
hats on the
back at the
country club
they've not
been able to
walk away
saying guys
look at
one
I mean if
Texas beats
them later
this evening
they've tried
to buy a lot
of championships
but it's not
worked out
but I think
your non-revenue
sports are at
risk
I do
I think that
you could see
this
from a level
that
I don't know
if you could
it just can't
get
because what
he's trying
to say
and I'm
not sure
if people
connected
with guys
but when
he's talking
about
the money
pulling out
of a capital
budget
you're going
to have to
where are you
going to get
that from
where are you
going to get
it from
because that
money is not
growing out
here
on trees
season tickets
from a standpoint
generates money
TV executives
or revenue
generates money
but where
does the
money tree
come from
I don't know
if they're
going to have
enough
to be able
to just say
hey guys
we're going
to throw
this out
there
this is
where we're
going
if it goes
to 20
now also
keep in
mind
they've also
got that
house lawsuit
that they
got to go
back and
back pay
so that's
another
payment
that's
on these
athletic
departments
and I'm
not taking
out
it's not
like they're
on rice
and beans
in the
athletic
department
but I'm
talking about
across the
country
when you start
crunching
the numbers
go back
look at
the year
that COVID
happened
if COVID
happened
now
I think
you would
see some
of these
athletic
departments
have to
literally
they would
be bankrupt
I think
they would
be in a
mess
you make
a point
about Texas
Tech
about just
what they're
doing as far
as buying
players
but we
touched
on
we have
a lot
of national
guests
like you
do
too
and they
touched
on a
very interesting
point
the other
day
their schedule
last year
was a joke
it's even
more of a
joke
this year
so how
much of an
influence
does money
have on
both fronts
go buy
the best
players
and then
influence
the schedule
maker
to give
you the
softest
schedule
because we
know the
NCAA
there's no
other way
of putting
it
they're
hypocrites
to me
you preach
one thing
you practice
another
they talk
about
strength
of schedule
blah blah
blah
and then
on
selection
Sunday
we know
what happens
they're not
going to put
a two lost
Alabama
Auburn team
in over an
unbeaten
Nebraska
or Texas
Tech team
your thoughts
just about
how much
influence
big money
has
even over
getting
to there
to that
path
yeah
I just don't
think you
can survive
I mean
watching the
Monday game
with softball
it reminded
me of
how much
that sport
a non-revenue
Olympic sport
who generally
loses money
throughout every
college campus
across the
country
NIL has
taken over
in that
department
that's right
I mean
it's
because if
you're not
going to
spend the
money
you're not
going to
win
at that
level
you're not
I mean
you're not
going to
be able
to
so
I think
when you
step back
and look
at it
it's
every sport
it's
golf
so
it
goes back
to something
I've said
a couple
times
I've probably
said it
here
I know
I've said
it every
day
my audience
is tired
of me
saying this
you're going
to have to
decide
which sports
you're going
to be good
at
and which
sports
you're going
to be
kind of
and the rest
of it
you're just
going to be
kind of
mediocre
you know
for Auburn
it may be
tennis and golf
is you know
where their
success
lies
for Alabama
it may be
basketball
and football
Mississippi State
it may be
baseball
you have to
pick and
choose
because I
just don't
think you
can take
21 sports
and fully
fund them
to the
max
and compete
with it
because if you
went out
here and you
spent on
every single
program that
you have
to the
maximum amount
of money
that you
can spend
I don't think
there's many
schools probably
including
the Texas
Texas Tech
that can
afford it
that can
go out
here and
swing for
the fences
and say
not long
term
because at
some point
listen
we all
know enough
rich people
to understand
this right
here
they want
to ROI
they're rich
because they're
not foolish
with their
money
that's the
bottom line
that's why
they're rich
and they
want some
type of
return
there can
only be
one team
unless you're
going to say
a college
football
playoff
appearance
is success
and that's
worth
$40 million
I mean
look at
Texas
they spent
$40 million
didn't even
go to the
playoffs
is those
boosters
going to be
as reluctant
to go
hey guys
let's go
spend
another $50
million
I guess
if you've
got a surplus
and you say
well I don't
have anywhere else
to spend
my money
I'm fixing
to go
to the
grave
I might
have
to spend
it before
I give
it to all
my kids
maybe that's
the rebuttal
but it's
an area
that I
wonder
you asked
me if
we'll be
in five
years
and my
response
is
I don't
have a
clue
that's
the problem
and Greg
thank you
we'll see
but I feel
like
this collaboration
with him
and the
Big Ten
maybe this
is the
first step
because
we've got
Heather
Denish
coming up
here in
about 10
minutes
she's going
to be on
our show
about 15
minutes
and I
think she
has said
that maybe
the United
States
Congress
they think
that the
Big Ten
is going
to try to
create this
superpower
of the SEC
and maybe
that's one
of the
stipulations
because we
saw that
joint
statement
of them
kind of
opposing
it
well guys
you've had
two and a
half months
there's no way
you don't have
to fly
Southwest
or Delta
or United
you get on
that little
private jet
go up to
Washington D.C.
and help
them draft
a bill
they're at
least doing
something
go up there
and help
them draft
tell them
where they're
wrong at
I don't
think Greg
stayed too
many trips
to Washington
D.C.
I don't
think so
Ryan
that's been
my point
that I've
been making
for months
now
it's very
easy to
criticize
the
Protect
College
Sports
Act
it's not
everything
for
everybody
but it
really does
have
some
legitimate
points
and a
lot of
these
sports
journalists
who are
really
activists
keep
talking
about
this
but I'm
like
you
and
listen
let's
get over
the 16
to 24
we've
got a lot
of decisions
to be
made
one time
transfer
five years
to play
five
and you
just go
on and
on and
on
and a
lot
of
things
are
covered
in the
Protect
College
Sports
Act
why don't
they just
use that
blueprint
and sit
down
and say
look let's
work this
out
the finer
points
get this
thing
worked out
and then
we can
assign
if we're
going to
16 or
24
later
this year
sure
sure
but we're
not willing
to do
that
because we
have egos
that are
involved
just like
politicians
have egos
because they
want to
draft the
bill
I think
we have
egos
at the
commissioner's
office
and I
think
the United
States
Senate
with Ted
Cruz
and the
Democrat
out of the
state of
Washington
sniffed that
out
and I think
she realized
you can't
tell me
that Ted
Cruz did
not call
the SEC
and the
Big Ten
the two
biggest
powerful
players
and say
guys
help us
draft
this
bill
he reached
out to
tons
of
people
including
guys like
Dan Marino
other people
to say
hey
help us
with this
draft
this
bill
there's
no way
that
Greg
Sankey
did
not
get
a
phone
call
why
was
he
not
willing
to
help
I
agree
with you
there's no way
they did not
call him
there's no way
they did not
call him
well
you've been
calling
Greg
Sankey
to
task
here
for a
while
and
it's
now
time
for
him
to
show
some
leadership
in getting
some of
this
stuff
some of
these
decisions
made
besides
Heather
Denage
who else
have you
got on
your
award winning
show
today
we've got
Rodney
Orr
and
Brad
Powers
so
we'll
be
talking
with
these
guys
coming
up
here
in
just
a
couple
of
minutes
and
you know
if
Nick
Saban
you never
know
if
he's
driving
around
we're
going to
take up
for him
a little
bit
this
afternoon
he's
always
welcome
to call
in
we've
got an
open
line
and
we
won't
even
make
him
wait
he goes
to
the
front
of
line
but
I
mean
Nick
Saban
took a lot
of
criticism
we'll try
to defend
him in
Tuscaloosa
today
but he
doesn't
need
my
help
he
doesn't
care
what
you
and I
always
appreciate
you guys
so much
we'll start
it here
in a couple
of minutes
have a great
rest of
y'all
day
I don't
think
Nick
worries
too much
about
all that
stuff
he's
driving
around
town
the most
expensive
Mercedes
in the
T-town
B.B.
are you
ready for
some
Braves
and Jays
again
tonight
yeah
they may
sweep
the Jays
tonight
won
last night
7-3
Chris
Sale
on the mound
for the
Braves
you can hear
that
game
on 93-9
score
if you want
to know
the rest
the story
about
Chris Sale
allowed
two earned
runs
or fewer
in 10
of his
first 11
starts
and you
can catch
that game
later on
tonight
to see if
you can
extend
those numbers
right here
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it's going to
take care of
business
for now
on behalf
of B.B.
Greg
James Blair
the entire
crew here
Harold
Boggs
thank you so
much
for your
time
today
let's
turn it
again
tomorrow
on
noon
to 2
for the
boom
buck
show
back here
on
sports
radio
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