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 Now, get ready to roll Shoals, Decatur, Athens, and all of Northwest Alabama and Southern Tennessee. It's time for the Valley's exclusive FM Sports Voice.

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 The Boomo Bugg Show. Your exclusive inside track to the Tigers, Tennessee and the rest of the SEC. Now your host, Harold Bugg on 93.9 The Score.

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 Good afternoon and welcome here to the Boomo Bugg Show. I'm Harold Bugg alongside Brett Beaird. Thank you so much for giving us free ride around the Tennessee Valley. Brett Beaird, welcome in. And can you believe there is a big scandal at the big house and why it's got the rumor mills working big time in our neck of the woods? Plus, good news for UNA football's future schedule. Good afternoon, welcome in and how are you?

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 Happy Thursday to you and the listeners. Yeah, we'll be talking about UNA playing Auburn not once but twice in the future, a little bit later in the show.

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 Former Auburn quarterback Charlie Trotman is going to be talking about Auburn here in about 20 minutes and three former defensive coordinators now on goalage staff including

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 We'll preview number one Arizona and number 12 Alabama in the Sam Newton classic Saturday today at one o'clock.

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 And BB is here right now to talk about what you just alluded to, major questions for the Michigan football program.

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 And that ain't all we start talking to Bill Bender. He's the national voice of the Sporting News and the big story that we're not mentioning here with Bill Bender. Welcome in tucks boy. You clean up well. Congratulations.

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 Yeah, that was quite the honor to present the jersey trophy on Monday and I appreciate it. Uh, yeah, I had a little trouble figuring out the bow tie, but I'll tell you what, uh, Jacob Rodriguez and his family. Good people. He, that is a, uh, one student athlete, uh, highly deserving of everything he's getting right now.

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 Bill, anything going on in the big 10 these days?

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 Well, I mean, well, so I, I don't want to make light of the situation. Obviously Sharon Moore is being detained and some serious allegations there. Um, where that leads for him, I don't know, but it's ugly on that end.

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 You know, uh, as far as Michigan's concerned, there's yet another black eye on a school that's really dealt with scandals each of the last three seasons. This one's obviously a little bit different because it has less to do with on the field than, you know, personal stuff. And, uh, I know what you guys just said, and that's probably going to be rumored that perhaps they take a run at killing the boar. And if you're Michigan, that, that would be a home run swing that would really shake things up.

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 The question is, we know Michigan would have an interest certainly in the board with everybody else. Pretty much as far as the A-list off the board by now, he'd be there anyway, but certainly now the question is, in your opinion, does the board have any mutual interest?

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 Well, I mean, he'll be asked that question. You have reporters down there that have the willingness to ask him about the Penn state job, which they did a week ago. Uh, was that, uh, that Charlie that asked that question?

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 Um, but, uh, another one, because that's going to be, uh, ahead of that Oklahoma game.

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 I think Brian Kelly will be another name that comes up.

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 Uh, and then you get into, uh, you know, here's the name that I'm going to throw out there and just keep an eye on it.

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 And I have nothing behind it yet because they don't, but Dan Mullen would be interesting there.

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 Some of the home run swings don't.

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 Uh, I've seen five lists today and they're about, uh, with 10 names and about seven of, of them are on every list.

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 And we've got a copycat, not saying everybody does it, but I've seen these names for some of these names, certainly for six weeks.

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 Uh, Bill, the other issue you've got at Michigan is who's going to be making the decision on hiring him.

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 Will it be Ward Manuel who's been behind the scenes with all of this mess that has been going on back to Connor Stallions with the, the, uh, uh, sign stealing and the impermissible contact with recruits and all the other mess.

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 Will Michigan allow him to actually make the decision who's going to be the next athletic director.

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 I completely agree with all of that.

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 The hardball era is kind of like two different stories on the field, you know, especially in the back half, very successful.

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 Uh, you win a national title, but the, the, the, you know, the phrase selling your soul or whatever you guys want to use kind of happened with Michigan here.

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 And now they're paying, I think this is all more damaging than anything.

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 The NCA could have done with like a, uh, a hammer or post-season ban, whatever, because now your reputation, it's your reputation.

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 You guys know that we're, we're only as good as our reputation.

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 And, you know, you guys have been pretty good with me because you have a good reputation, right?

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 Well, right back at you, Bill, I can't tell you that was, like you said, you got to go and wear a tux.

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 We, we haven't got to your level yet.

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 So we're still working to get there.

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 Bill Bender with the Sporting News, another name that I, I don't see enough, but he's, he expressed an interest.

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 He's sitting by the phone.

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 What's he doing these days?

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 I think he, he didn't have a lot of baggage to get rid of to get on the job tomorrow, but talk to us about the culture there at Michigan.

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 You're closer to it, by the way, if you're brand new to the show, Bill lives on the other side of the state line, the place called Ohio.

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 So I want to ask you how you feel about Michigan Mets standpoint, but I've been watching some of the media reports from the Michigan media.

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 So, Amy, if I'm wrong, the job at Alabama is pretty big too, isn't it, Bill?

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 Somebody asked me this morning to rank, and it was without any data, just silly, just give me your list of what you think the top 10 jobs are in college football.

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 If it were, if I were grading the best jobs in college football, I think the top three are Ohio State, Texas, and Alabama.

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 That's what makes it so interesting to me is, like, I'm not going to sit here on your show and say Michigan's a better job than Alabama.

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 And I just think that's the value decision DeBoer would have to do if it came to it.

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 If DeBoer doesn't want this to be out there, stand up to the microphone, look in the camera and say, guys, I'm telling you right now, I ain't going to go.

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 And then if Kellen squashes it, I want to say one more thing about Brian Kelly.

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 I think he'd be a natural fit culture-wise if they're more so than LSU.

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 I put a square peg in a round hole when I was trying to put that darn bow tie on.

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 You know, I had that conversation with Jacob Hester a while back about how, well, he always

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 You win and you work hard, you can fit anywhere.

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 Alabama to Oklahoma, 2.0.

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 We know the challenges with the Alabama offense after the Georgia game and eight starters being

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 Bill Bender has got Alabama winning that game 22 to 17.

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 And Miami at Texas A&M, the Aggies a four-point favorite.

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 Ron Bonsworth, former Oklahoma legend, now the sheriff on the Dr. Pepper commercials.

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 People have told me when you meet him in person, he's one of the nicest congenial guys you can

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 Such good contributions to the game of football.

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 Best part for me is, you know, you have a kid that, or as a kid, when you watch a guy

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 I'm delighted to be a member of the Football Riders Association.

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 You may be on the awards banquet here a few more before it's over with.

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 Where can we get online and get all of Bill Bender's great stuff?

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 We'll have more on the Sharon Moore situation as it evolves.

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 We have playoff games next week.

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 Welcome back here.

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 Well, we can't let a week go by without saying hello to Charlie Trotman, former Auburn quarterback.

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 Charlie, welcome into the huddle.

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 How are you?

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 Doing great, guys.

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 Excited about this playoff that we got coming up.

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 It's going to be a lot of fun.

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 And you know what else?

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 It's going to be a lot of fun, Charlie.

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 For you in a fans, we've been preaching, and lots of folks have been listening.

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 I know that the folks at the UNA are excited.

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 Mark it down, UNA, Auburn football.

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 They announced that last year they'll be playing in 2028.

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 It was in September of that year.

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 Now, that game is now on top for November 4th, 2028, and October 30th, 2032.

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 So, not one, but two chances to see Auburn and UNA lock horns in the gridiron.

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 That's big news, Charlie.

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 I know for both sides, certainly the Lions family.

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 Oh, yeah.

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 No doubt about it.

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 North Alabama, you know, I like the fact that Auburn plays the in-state teams.

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 And so, Auburn hadn't really played Troy very often, or maybe not at all.

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 And that's the only team that they really haven't played.

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 I mean, they played UAB, and they played Alabama State, and Alabama A&M.

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 And it just seems natural that they would play North Alabama as well.

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 Charlie, it's amazing to me.

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 Alex Golich goes from one defensive, former defensive coordinator, now to three.

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 Till Banks is fired Sunday or Monday morning at Tennessee

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 and hired at Auburn on Wednesday, yesterday.

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 Coleman Butzler, who was in Alabama, then he was at Mississippi State,

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 is the outside linebacker coach at Auburn.

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 Of course, D.J. Durkin didn't have to move.

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 He's still going to be there.

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 But, Charlie, what about three former defensive coordinators in the SEC now

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 coaching the Auburn defense?

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 Well, you know, I can't say that that's a bad thing.

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 I mean, you know, one thing you may worry about is that there are a lot of

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 different philosophies that would be involved in that.

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 D.J. Durkin is going to be the defensive coordinator, of course,

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 and then he'll have some associate or assistant defensive coordinators

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 like Hutzler and so forth.

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 But, you know, I think with Brad Wilson and Hutzler and, you know,

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 we've got this DeMarcus Van Dyke who's really a rising star in the coaching

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 ranks as far as being a great recruiter as well.

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 He's the cornerback's coach.

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 And we still have to get a defensive back and safety coach.

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 But, you know, I like the fact that you bring that much experience in.

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 And, I mean, gosh, you know, Hutzler's been the outside linebacker coach at Florida

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 under Urban Meyer.

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 He was at Alabama under Saban.

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 And, you know, so, yeah, all that sounds, you know, promising to me that Auburn could continue

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 to have a solid defense.

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 I think Auburn was fifth in the conference this year in defense and 30th in number of points

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 allowed.

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 And, you know, maybe we can improve on that.

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 But, you know, the main thing I think that the people are worried about is the offense.

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 And that's where, you know, Auburn got offensive coordinator Joel Gordon.

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 He's coming in, and the offensive line coach is going to be Tyler Hudnick.

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 And I think those guys who have been with Alex Golesh for three years at South Florida, you know,

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 they're keeping the same group together that has done extraordinarily well on offense, you know,

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 that had the nation's second leading offense in terms of yards per game this year.

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 And he had, you know, great offenses when he was at Tennessee.

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 And I just think that that's a good thing that Joel Gordon, you know, he worked with Golesh at Iowa State.

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 And he was, you know, again, the guy that he calls the plays.

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 I like that, that Alex Golesh is not having to call the plays.

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 So, yeah, I mean, this coaching staff is shaping up, guys.

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 It's amazing how this goes with the coaches, is it not?

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 Sooner or later, they're either going to coach with or against everybody.

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 I always compare it to Charlie to someone who grew up in a small town.

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 Everybody's going to marry one another before it's all said and done.

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 That's kind of the way it is with some of these coaches.

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 Sooner or later, I was at Alabama, now I'm at Auburn.

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 I was at Tennessee, et cetera.

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 But, Johnny, talk to us as a former Auburn quarterback.

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 What are they going to do there?

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 Because they had two pretty good ones down the stretch.

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 They made a decision to basically guarantee that Daniels could come back.

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 And now you've got all this ceremony that maybe he'll bring his boys in from South Florida.

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 You've worn that helmet before as a quarterback.

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 What would be the wise thing there at that position?

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 Well, let's look at it two different ways.

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 What's wise for Alex Golesh and what's wise for the Auburn fans or what's wise for two quarterbacks that are there at Auburn?

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 It's really two different things because I know that Ashton Daniels and Deuce Knight want to be able to battle it out themselves.

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 But then when you look at what Byron Brown did at South Florida, I mean, he is only the 12th quarterback in the history of college football to throw for $3,000 and rush for $1,000 in the same year.

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 So, you know, I mean, from a goalie standpoint, why not bring him in, let them all three compete and see who wins the job, let it be an open competition.

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 But, you know, if you're Deuce Knight, you sure don't want to see that because you feel like, well, guys, this guy's played for a goalie for two years.

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 That's right.

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 He's going to favor him.

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 You know, he may favor him and not us.

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 And so, you know, I think it's a little bit of a different look depending on who you are.

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 Absolutely.

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 Let me ask your advice on something from a quarterback standpoint.

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 You played the position so well.

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 A.J. McCarron, Alabama's former quarterback, does a podcast, pretty popular.

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 And he was talking about Ty Simpson and his issues.

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 Ty Simpson's been injured.

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 The guy is playing.

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 I appreciate and respect his guts because this guy has got a back injury.

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 He got hurt at Missouri and South Carolina.

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 A.J. McCarron's comment was, well, Ty's problem is his feet are messed up, is the way you put it.

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 In other words, Charlie, his fundamentals are off.

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 And I was listening to the Alabama broadcast Saturday, and Tyler Watt mentioned the same thing.

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 He said one of the issues Ty has, he's throwing off his back foot.

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 As a former quarterback, you know how important this is.

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 Charlie, talk about a quarterback's footwork and the fundamentals of that.

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 Well, they're extremely important because you have to have balance when you throw the football.

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 And, you know, if your footwork is not good and you're a right-handed quarterback, you know, you push off your right foot

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 and your plant leg is your left leg, and it's got to be in the right place depending on where you're throwing the football.

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 But you've got to have enough room to do that, guys.

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 I mean, if your offensive line is not giving you time, I mean, Ty Simpson threw a pass against Auburn

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 where Auburn almost had him on his back, and he was throwing off his back foot, and it was a beautiful touchdown.

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 So, I understand what A.J. is saying, but A.J., he's got to realize that, you know, you have to improvise some as a quarterback as well.

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 And, you know, the one thing I will say about Stimson is that when he's on the run, he likes to stop and throw the football.

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 He doesn't like to run.

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 I mean, you may remember the Georgia play where he was rolling out to his right, and most people would continue rolling and throw on the run,

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 but he stopped and planted, and then he threw a strike into the end zone for a touchdown against Georgia in that first game that they played.

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 He is, to me, he's got, you know, he's a young quarterback, I mean, in terms of experience.

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 And I would say that, you know, his mechanics are, if I gave him a grade on mechanics, I would give him a B.

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 Maybe not an A, because I think A.J.'s got a point, but I think the majority of the time that I've seen him throw off his back foot, he had to.

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 Johnny, talk to us about the modern era, something that you didn't, and a lot of folks have not still trying to learn, that's the NIL.

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 How will Auburn learn from what they did under you?

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 Because they put a lot of money in the quarterback and wide receiver room, and I think most folks would agree they didn't get a return on their investment.

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 How will Auburn sit here and budget the NIL going forward?

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 Well, it's going to be interesting, because you've got a different guy who's going to be goaling out the money and goalish.

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 And, you know, he may see things differently.

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 I know that skilled position players are still the guys that are going to get paid the most, and they're the guys, along with maybe, you know, your left tackle and a few other guys.

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 You know, maybe a couple of guys on defense that are edge rushers and so forth are going to be the guys that are paid the most.

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 But you've got to be careful how you do that, because I think in the locker room, if you overpay a guy and he's not performing at a high level, it could be a problem in the locker room.

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 Because you've got these offensive guards that are maybe making $100,000, whereas you've got a quarterback that may be making $1,000,000, and, you know, the quarterback's not really doing his job.

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 And, you know, it's just human nature to question that when you're, you know, an offensive guard up there, bloody in your nose and getting banged around.

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 So, you know, I don't know.

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 I don't know enough about Alex Golesh to tell you how he's going to divvy it out.

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 But I do know this.

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 I know Cody Burns, who's going to be the wide receiver coach, he's got to pay Cam Coleman, because I know Cam Coleman is being offered a lot of money by other schools.

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 And if Auburn wants to keep him, that's one you've got to pay.

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 There's no question.

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 And I think Eric Singleton and also Malcolm Simmons are two guys that need to be paid as well.

433
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 I mean, Malcolm Simmons had two touchdown catches, one called back against Alabama, and he started playing great football at the end of the year.

434
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 So, yeah, I mean, guys, we're in that time in the college football game where you have to pay the guys that are productive.

435
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 It is amazing, Charlie, at how much it has changed even the last two or three years.

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 We always appreciate your great insight into individual positions in Auburn and the SEC, Bud, and everything else.

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 Listen, have a great week and glad you got back safe.

438
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 We talked two or three times yesterday trying to get the right time for you.

439
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 Good luck on that conference call later.

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 Harold, he had one with Walmart a couple weeks ago, so he's going big time on us now.

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 That's better than calling Michigan.

442
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 Guys, you've got to do what you've got to do.

443
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,280
 There you go.

444
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:05,860
 That's right.

445
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 Listen, buddy, have a great week.

446
00:32:08,660 --> 00:32:09,580
 Thanks for having me, guys.

447
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 Always, Charlie.

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 There you have your former Auburn quarterback, Charlie Trumman.

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 Welcome back in with a coaching shuffle going on here in the off-season.

556
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 This segment needs to be brought to you by Two Men in a Truck.

557
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 Maybe we can work on that.

558
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 In the meantime, we sell it to Ryan Callahan.

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 He's got it all covered when it comes to Tennessee at Go Balls 24-7.

560
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 Ryan, welcome in.

561
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 How are you?

562
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 Hey, guys.

563
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 Doing well.

564
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 How are you?

565
00:38:43,140 --> 00:38:43,460
 Hey, bud.

566
00:38:43,860 --> 00:38:49,200
 Man, the national media says big news in big orange country with a hire as defensive coordinator.

567
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,400
 Ryan, what should we know about Jim Knowles?

568
00:38:54,180 --> 00:39:05,160
 Yeah, this is going to be a really well-received hire, I think, for most Tennessee fans, just knowing that he's one of the highest-regarded defensive coordinators out there on the market.

569
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:17,700
 It certainly looked like he was going to be looking for a new job with things ending the way they did at Penn State and Matt Campbell coming in with his own defensive coordinator that he wanted to bring with him.

570
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:24,060
 So, one of those situations where a really good candidate kind of falls right in your lap and seems like a natural fit.

571
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:30,900
 He's 60 years old, so veteran coach has been around a long time, very proven, has been at several places.

572
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:39,220
 But, you know, interesting history that might have been relevant, might not have in this case, but has worked for David Cutcliffe for a number of years.

573
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 They've done time together at Duke and even with Ole Miss before that.

574
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,160
 So, having some of that history there.

575
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:54,320
 You know, Cutcliffe, obviously a guy that has multiple ties at Tennessee right now, you know, has plenty of history there.

576
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:59,440
 And, you know, not sure how much they might have leaned on that recommendation, but that's something that could have come into play.

577
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:07,680
 But certainly a guy that has had good defenses at several different places and, you know, is known for having a bit of a complex system.

578
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,660
 Now, that is one thing about this that Tennessee fans have worried about a little bit.

579
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 In year one, sometimes it's a system that takes a minute to sort of get everybody up to speed and make for a smooth transition.

580
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:28,260
 That's an interesting piece of this, going into a really critical 2026 where Tennessee needs to show some improvement coming off an eight- and four-season this year.

581
00:40:28,580 --> 00:40:36,620
 But I think everybody on the surface, you know, really likes the sound of this hire and feels like this is the type of move Josh Heifel needed to make, obviously, after parting ways with Tim Banks.

582
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 Yeah, you brought it up.

583
00:40:38,740 --> 00:40:41,580
 Jim Knowles is in because Tim Banks is out.

584
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 Took him about three or four days to get a new job.

585
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 He's now on this side of the state line at Auburn.

586
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 What can you tell Auburn fans about Tim Banks, Ryan?

587
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 Yeah, he did a really good job at Tennessee, really, until this year.

588
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 You know, he really improved each year during his first four years under Josh Heifel.

589
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 And they had not worked together previously.

590
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 There wasn't really a strong connection there between Heifel and Banks.

591
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 There were some common ties between Banks and some guys on Tennessee's staff, including Willie Martinez, who's been the secondary coach throughout Heifel's tenure at Tennessee.

592
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 So there were some relationships that made that easier in the beginning, but they didn't go way back.

593
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 And it worked out well, again, for four years.

594
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 You know, it seems to be, as a play caller, pretty solid as a position coach.

595
00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:39,900
 I think that's a really good hire, especially, to have a guy like that with that kind of experience in the Big Ten and elsewhere, and have a guy like that in the back end of your defense.

596
00:41:40,580 --> 00:41:51,860
 You know, position coach-wise, you might ask a little bit more of him as a recruiter than what Tennessee got out of him there, because you don't usually ask your coordinators to do a lot of heavy lifting and recruiting.

597
00:41:51,860 --> 00:41:59,020
 But he does have some ties in some different areas that could help Auburn a little bit outside its typical recruiting footprint.

598
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:07,560
 He's from Detroit, so has some ties in Michigan that could pay off, and also did a lot of recruiting for Tennessee in the Northeast in places like New Jersey.

599
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 So if they're looking to go much outside the Southeast, he's a guy that certainly could help with that, at least.

600
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:21,860
 And obviously, you know, did plenty of recruiting in the Southeast during his time at Tennessee as well, so we'll have some ties that should help out there in addition to that.

601
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:23,460
 You're right.

602
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,560
 Jim Knowles has a great reputation.

603
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:35,220
 Two years ago at Ohio State, the number one-ranked defense in the country, only giving up 13 points a game, 254 yards.

604
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 What do you know about him?

605
00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:39,440
 Does he blitz a lot?

606
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,820
 Does he play a 3-4, 4-3?

607
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,700
 Do they play zone, play man?

608
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,000
 You'll learn more about him as we go along.

609
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:49,200
 What have you heard about his philosophy on defense?

610
00:42:50,300 --> 00:42:57,280
 Yeah, he tends to – there's an aggressive nature to his defenses, and that's not surprising,

611
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:03,240
 knowing what Josh Heifel kind of looked for in Tim Banks and what they tended to do.

612
00:43:03,900 --> 00:43:12,520
 You know, Josh Heifel's approach has always been sort of aggression on both sides of the ball and trying to just make big plays, make things happen.

613
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:18,960
 And so that's in fitting with his general philosophy, and yeah, I think that's definitely what you see with Jim Knowles.

614
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:30,720
 There are some differences, it sounds like, maybe some subtle ones, but some things that are different from what Tennessee did under Tim Banks that I think will be at least a little bit of an adjustment for them with Jim Knowles' system.

615
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:35,240
 And, you know, much in line with what you see these days, not too dramatically different.

616
00:43:35,340 --> 00:43:44,180
 Even where you see these days the differences in 3-4s versus 4-3s, everyone's in so much nickel these days that there's often not a lot of variation there.

617
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:51,540
 You know, I think a lot of the distinction is sometimes in how you use your edge rushers, how many of those guys you have out there at one time.

618
00:43:51,540 --> 00:43:55,260
 But, yeah, a little bit of a difference there in terms of system.

619
00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:03,380
 Tennessee's old system with Tim Banks was, you know, kind of based on some three-man front principles that played as almost a four-man front.

620
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,900
 So it really is, you know, sometimes just a matter of terminology, differences, and things like that.

621
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,780
 But Knowles likes to be able to have, you know, multiple different answers for everything.

622
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:20,940
 So he's all about, you know, it sounds like preparing his players for everything they're going to see, and that's where I think some of the complexity comes in.

623
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,180
 He doesn't like to, you know, just be rigid about playing things one way.

624
00:44:25,180 --> 00:44:28,680
 He wants to be able to read and react and things like that.

625
00:44:28,780 --> 00:44:34,300
 And so he does ask a lot of his players, it sounds like, and that's one thing that will be interesting to see, again, with one offseason.

626
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:42,440
 You know, how much can he sort of get everyone up to speed on doing things his way and help players understand a system that's going to be new to pretty much everyone.

627
00:44:42,620 --> 00:44:45,740
 But, yeah, everyone that's worked with him in the past, you know, really speaks highly of him.

628
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:50,360
 And the big thing is, it sounds like he's just a good football coach, and there's, you know, obviously a lot to be said for that.

629
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,320
 That's usually what you're looking for in a defensive coordinator.

630
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,300
 You don't have to have a big-time recruiter.

631
00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:55,440
 You don't have to have anything else.

632
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,800
 You've got to have a guy that just knows how to coach football.

633
00:44:57,980 --> 00:45:05,020
 And it sounds like Jim Knowles has that and certainly has a good reputation that's gotten him to this point in his career where he's, you know, 60 years old and still getting this kind of job.

634
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,340
 Not many guys can do that.

635
00:45:08,980 --> 00:45:09,400
 Absolutely.

636
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,940
 Tennessee, Illinois, and the Music City Bowl.

637
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,360
 It's not a playoff.

638
00:45:14,460 --> 00:45:16,900
 It's not a Florida Bowl.

639
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:20,960
 We talked to our good friend Vince Farrar about that on Monday.

640
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,580
 He said Tennessee fans have grumbled about that a little bit.

641
00:45:24,580 --> 00:45:30,600
 Your thoughts against Illinois, a Big Ten team in Nashville.

642
00:45:31,460 --> 00:45:35,320
 Yeah, you know, not the sexiest matchup for Tennessee fans probably.

643
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:42,480
 You know, you're not dying to play Illinois, you know, among other Big Ten teams or as much as other Big Ten programs maybe.

644
00:45:42,980 --> 00:45:52,400
 But not the way anyone envisioned this season ending for Tennessee, certainly when they got off to a pretty good start with Joey Aguilar and that offense putting up some big numbers.

645
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:58,660
 But, you know, at the end of the day, I don't think many people are too worried about bowl games one way or the other.

646
00:45:58,660 --> 00:46:03,940
 If it's not part of the college football playoff, you know, it's not as big of a deal probably as it was five years ago.

647
00:46:04,300 --> 00:46:09,680
 And that's unfortunate a little bit because, you know, bowl games have been such a big part of the Mavericks of college football.

648
00:46:09,860 --> 00:46:16,260
 But, you know, these days is there a big difference in most fans' minds between, say, a trip to Jacksonville and a trip down the road to Nashville.

649
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,180
 So they've always drawn well when they play in the Music City Bowl.

650
00:46:20,180 --> 00:46:25,500
 They've lost a couple times in that one, but they have always drawn a good crowd there.

651
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 And I would imagine they'll be that way again since it's such an easy trip.

652
00:46:28,660 --> 00:46:33,700
 For so many fans in state and then obviously plenty of plenty of Tennessee fans in middle Tennessee.

653
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,220
 So that fan base, you know, enjoys having the chance to see Tennessee play in a game like that.

654
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,100
 So, yeah, it should be a home field advantage for them.

655
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:45,320
 And, you know, again, not the not the most exciting matchup when it comes to the Big Ten program they could have drawn.

656
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:52,100
 But it's definitely not a not a not a bad way to end the season when you get to stay in state and in fans not having to travel, you know,

657
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:57,960
 10, 12 hours somewhere that they weren't necessarily fired up about for a game that probably isn't as high stakes

658
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:03,620
 as it would have been seen as five years ago fans fussed, but give it a couple of weeks.

659
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 And by the end, they'll still say I'm mad, but I'll still lay down the cash to go see the game football hungry.

660
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,700
 Right. Ryan, your thoughts, the pressure on Josh Heupel, let's face it.

661
00:47:12,820 --> 00:47:18,000
 Going to the Music City Bowl is about as exciting as toilet paper at the courthouse for fans.

662
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,040
 That is not going to cut it at the end of the day.

663
00:47:21,140 --> 00:47:22,980
 He's got to move his game up.

664
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:30,180
 That's I think that's safe to say your thoughts about the pressure on Heupel as you close the curtain on this season as we get ready for next season.

665
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:38,760
 Yeah. You know, the way this season went, it's put everyone at Tennessee in a more uncomfortable position than they wanted to be.

666
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:48,660
 I think going into the end of 2026, you know, I've had some people sort of asking me about about that a little bit today on our message board on Go Vols 24-7.

667
00:47:48,820 --> 00:47:52,940
 And, you know, I don't know that you can put a number on it right now.

668
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:59,780
 I don't know if there's a magic number of wins Josh Heupel needs to not be in any serious danger after next season.

669
00:47:59,900 --> 00:48:06,680
 But it's a, you know, with as tough of a schedule as Tennessee has next year, I think that's what people keep coming back to is, you know,

670
00:48:06,700 --> 00:48:10,940
 that you play Alabama, Auburn, Texas, Texas A&M, and LSU.

671
00:48:10,940 --> 00:48:20,560
 You know, you got this loaded schedule all in the same year, you know, Lane Kiffin at LSU now, and you're facing Alex Golesh, Josh Heupel's former assistant at Auburn.

672
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,660
 So, you know, it's not going to be an easy schedule, and I think people see that, plus you're breaking in.

673
00:48:25,740 --> 00:48:30,400
 Potentially a new quarterback, we'll see if Joey Aguilar gets any extra eligibility with that junior college case.

674
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:39,140
 He's got kind of riding Diego Pavia's coattails and seeing if he can get another year at Tennessee, but if he doesn't, potentially a new young quarterback.

675
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,380
 You know, there's some real challenges involved, and everyone kind of looks at that and says,

676
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 is he expected to win more than eight games next year with that schedule?

677
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,480
 And maybe, I don't know.

678
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:55,300
 I'm not sure what the magic number is, but, you know, that's the tricky part about this hire, bringing in a guy like Jim Knowles, is you need immediate results.

679
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:55,780
 You do.

680
00:48:55,780 --> 00:49:04,940
 I don't think it's going to be a very comfortable season for anyone if Tennessee has a similar season and ends up with, you know, eight wins again or something like that next year.

681
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,220
 So it's a tough place to have the bar set that high.

682
00:49:08,340 --> 00:49:13,900
 But the other reality to that is I think there's going to be some recalibration for everyone across the SEC.

683
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:14,740
 Yeah, that's it.

684
00:49:14,740 --> 00:49:17,860
 It's a new nine-game conference schedule.

685
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,480
 It's going to be so much tougher than what we're used to seeing on an annual basis.

686
00:49:22,060 --> 00:49:26,120
 And what I just described for Tennessee's schedule next year is going to be more the norm year to year.

687
00:49:26,620 --> 00:49:32,760
 And so I think you're going to see a lot of teams, some really good teams, probably go eight and four and potentially even seven and five.

688
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,300
 And that won't mean that you're a bad team or that you had a bad season.

689
00:49:36,420 --> 00:49:39,480
 It'll just mean you played a really tough schedule in the best conference in college football.

690
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,420
 And everyone's going to have to get used to that.

691
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,780
 So what that means for Tennessee going forward and how they'll handle it, we'll see.

692
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,620
 But Tennessee knows it's got an uphill battle next year with that schedule.

693
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,300
 And they've got to be ready to try to win more games than they did this year.

694
00:49:52,620 --> 00:49:52,980
 Absolutely.

695
00:49:53,300 --> 00:50:00,400
 If fans are going to have to adjust their expectations, the team's not going to be playing Charlotte or Eastern Illinois.

696
00:50:00,820 --> 00:50:01,140
 No.

697
00:50:01,140 --> 00:50:03,160
 That's the 11th game of the season next year.

698
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:06,100
 They're going to be playing an SEC opponent.

699
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:16,380
 By the way, speaking of schedules, that will be unveiled tonight on the SEC network, the 20-26 schedule for all teams in the SEC.

700
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,100
 I believe that's 6 Central, 7 Eastern time.

701
00:50:19,180 --> 00:50:21,220
 I'll try to double-check that.

702
00:50:21,620 --> 00:50:23,080
 Recruiting, I thought, went well.

703
00:50:23,180 --> 00:50:24,160
 We talked about that.

704
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:29,200
 Tennessee, I know, last week was seventh and on three in rivals.

705
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:35,500
 And Rick Barnes is itching to get a win because Tennessee's lost three basketball games.

706
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,480
 And I know he ain't happy with that.

707
00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:38,540
 Wouldn't be it.

708
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,280
 They've got Louisville coming up, I believe, on December the 16th.

709
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,180
 A lot of teams now with finals this week.

710
00:50:45,620 --> 00:50:47,940
 I always enjoyed the conversation with you.

711
00:50:48,020 --> 00:50:50,360
 Where can we find out the latest about recruiting?

712
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:55,680
 Lord, the transfer portal is going to open up next time we turn around after the bowl games.

713
00:50:55,820 --> 00:50:57,800
 Where can we get online to get all your stuff?

714
00:50:58,580 --> 00:51:02,200
 Yeah, already a few Tennessee players have announced their intentions to head for the portal.

715
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,440
 Some NFL draft decisions coming down.

716
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,220
 I think more expected in the near future.

717
00:51:06,420 --> 00:51:08,220
 So, plenty to keep track of right now.

718
00:51:08,300 --> 00:51:13,060
 And obviously, plenty of coverage of the Jim Knoll tire, which just became official about a little more than an hour ago.

719
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,900
 So, a lot of coverage up on the site, including some recruit reaction and things like that.

720
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 So, lots of good stuff.

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722
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:25,200
 Thanks.

723
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,540
 Still isn't dried on that news.

724
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:27,460
 We appreciate you sharing.

725
00:51:27,580 --> 00:51:29,180
 Listen, Ryan, it's always good to hook up with you.

726
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 Thanks so much.

727
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 Have a good day and a great weekend ahead, okay?

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729
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 Thanks a lot.

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 Thank you, bud.

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732
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 Quickly, BB, your thoughts about all this rambling.

733
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:40,560
 I thought it was interesting.

734
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:43,460
 We found out the news yesterday right after the show about Michigan.

735
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,880
 And within an hour, they already had DeBoer's name linked to it.

736
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,700
 What is your initial reaction to this?

737
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:55,460
 Harold, again, I know what any coach going in there is going into a hornet's nest.

738
00:51:55,460 --> 00:51:57,920
 Now, Alabama has not practiced this week.

739
00:51:58,060 --> 00:52:02,660
 They've got – they practiced tomorrow, and I believe DeBoer is going to meet with the media,

740
00:52:02,820 --> 00:52:08,220
 and he'll have the opportunity to discuss this, whether Charlie Potter or Bama Online

741
00:52:08,220 --> 00:52:14,440
 or somebody else will ask him the question, but he certainly is going to be asked about it tomorrow.

742
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:22,480
 Again, the Penn State, several people, when they put out their list,

743
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:28,600
 and like I said, I've seen five today, he was not in contention at Penn State.

744
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,360
 Several – Bruce Feldman of The Athletic actually admitted that.

745
00:52:32,820 --> 00:52:35,240
 I can understand why he's named linked with it.

746
00:52:35,300 --> 00:52:41,220
 And we'll talk to Ryan Fowler, who's got impeccable contacts in Tuscaloosa at 155.

747
00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:44,540
 When everything's said and done, I think he stays in Alabama.

748
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,980
 Well, the one who's counting the nickels right now is Jimmy Sexton.

749
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 What's going on in his mind?

750
00:52:51,060 --> 00:52:52,440
 That's a big question to answer as well.

751
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,080
 You mentioned Ryan Fowler heading in the next hour.

752
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,840
 Also going to be checking in with Craig Stevenson.

753
00:52:55,980 --> 00:53:02,920
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 Governor Ivey announced this week that an assembly plant for tractors will be built in Monroeville.

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861
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862
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865
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867
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869
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870
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871
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872
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873
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874
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:59,200
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875
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:00,020
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876
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:05,100
 How are you, and have you thawed out, or has it been as cold where you are as where we are?

877
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:06,380
 It's been cold.

878
01:00:06,740 --> 01:00:09,160
 Today, I've been running my daughter around.

879
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,380
 She's 16, and she was job shadowing.

880
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:20,200
 So, off of half a day, she could tell me that work is fairly tedious and fairly boring, and I could have saved her half a day and just told her that myself.

881
01:00:20,380 --> 01:00:21,300
 But you know how it is.

882
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:22,640
 Yep.

883
01:00:22,980 --> 01:00:26,940
 The Boomo Bugg Show, weekdays, noon to 2, on 93.9 The Score.

884
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,140
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885
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,420
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886
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887
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:41,020
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888
01:00:41,580 --> 01:00:43,440
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889
01:00:43,900 --> 01:00:46,160
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890
01:00:46,700 --> 01:00:49,340
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891
01:00:49,340 --> 01:01:03,360
 Now, get ready to roll, Shoals, Decatur, Athens, and all of northwest Alabama and southern Tennessee.

892
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,340
 It's time for the Valley's exclusive FM Sports Voice.

893
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,820
 The Boomo Bugg Show.

894
01:01:12,820 --> 01:01:15,320
 Your exclusive inside track to the Tide.

895
01:01:15,460 --> 01:01:18,420
 Tigers, Tennessee, and the rest of the SEC.

896
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:24,640
 Now, your host, Harold Bugg, on 93.9 The Score.

897
01:01:25,460 --> 01:01:26,180
 Welcome back in.

898
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:27,380
 I want to do the Boomo Bugg Show.

899
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,020
 I'm Harold Bugg, alongside Brett Beaird.

900
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,140
 Thank you so much for giving us free ride around the Tennessee Valley.

901
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:37,480
 You know, BB, it's not often we get a chance to invite the vice president onto our show.

902
01:01:37,580 --> 01:01:37,980
 We're honored.

903
01:01:38,700 --> 01:01:40,060
 We are very honored.

904
01:01:40,060 --> 01:01:47,380
 Listen, my brother and I, we attended back in the 70s an Alabama basketball game.

905
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:53,200
 We hung around at the end of the game, and Sam Newton was there, and my brother and I walked up to him.

906
01:01:53,260 --> 01:01:55,220
 He didn't know us from Adams Housecat.

907
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:55,820
 Right.

908
01:01:55,980 --> 01:01:59,540
 And he talked to us for 30 minutes after that basketball game.

909
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:09,080
 What I remember about it is he said, you know, guys, I know we can fill this arena for Auburn and Kentucky, but I want to get more people involved here.

910
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,040
 And he did that, but Harold, I was looking again.

911
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,980
 You and I both know him.

912
01:02:14,580 --> 01:02:17,580
 Six times SEC coach of the year.

913
01:02:17,900 --> 01:02:22,800
 72, 73, 75, 76, 88, 89.

914
01:02:23,660 --> 01:02:29,780
 Transylvania, Alabama, Vanderbilt, of course, at Kentucky with an athletic director.

915
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:34,240
 Now, we are very honored to have his son, Martin Newton, in with us today.

916
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:35,900
 Move over, Kentucky Derby.

917
01:02:35,980 --> 01:02:37,780
 The bloodline runs deep.

918
01:02:37,860 --> 01:02:43,060
 He is Martin Newton, vice president for intercollision athletics at Stemford University.

919
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:44,220
 Martin, welcome in.

920
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:44,800
 It's an honor.

921
01:02:44,900 --> 01:02:45,600
 How are you?

922
01:02:46,140 --> 01:02:51,440
 Guys, I'm doing fantastic, and thanks for having me, and I love to hear those old stories about my dad.

923
01:02:51,540 --> 01:02:53,580
 He was a remarkable guy.

924
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,860
 Talk to us about, you know, the thing is, what was it?

925
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,560
 Tom Brokaw came out and talked about the greatest generation.

926
01:02:59,700 --> 01:03:07,500
 Of course, it was a different theme, but my old mind, all these coaches making millions of dollars, and some of them with mediocre records.

927
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,840
 They're on the backs of guys like your dad.

928
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:17,060
 And talk to us about, before we get into the specifics here, and what a special weekend it is for you and families and fans all over the state.

929
01:03:17,420 --> 01:03:23,340
 But talk to us about your dad and the legacy that he left that a lot of these coaches now are still reaping benefits from.

930
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,260
 Well, I'll tell you a funny story talking about money.

931
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,540
 So, I told this story to somebody the other day.

932
01:03:28,620 --> 01:03:35,000
 When he left Transylvania University in 1968, Coach Bryant called him to come be the head coach at Alabama.

933
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:39,120
 He just assumed he would be making an increase in pay.

934
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:43,780
 He was making $15,000 a year to go to Transylvania.

935
01:03:44,380 --> 01:03:48,820
 And he got to Tuscaloosa, and his contract was for $12,500.

936
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:55,040
 And he was, he didn't have the, he wasn't going to say anything to Coach Bryant.

937
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,740
 He was scared to death of Coach Bryant, so he wasn't going to say anything.

938
01:03:57,900 --> 01:04:04,420
 But the hardest conversation he ever had with my mom was telling her that they were moving to Tuscaloosa to take a pay cut.

939
01:04:04,420 --> 01:04:05,720
 To take a pay cut?

940
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:07,800
 Are you crazy?

941
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:08,820
 She said.

942
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:10,280
 Think about that, though.

943
01:04:10,340 --> 01:04:12,280
 $12,500 a year.

944
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,020
 $150,000 a month.

945
01:04:14,580 --> 01:04:14,780
 Yeah.

946
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:20,520
 You got guys today that are making $12,500 a day or maybe even an hour.

947
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:21,280
 Or more.

948
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:22,480
 Yeah.

949
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:23,240
 Exactly.

950
01:04:24,780 --> 01:04:28,200
 Well, obviously, you know, we appreciate you sharing that story.

951
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,580
 I think a lot of folks listening right now, they can relate to that.

952
01:04:30,580 --> 01:04:33,860
 And it's like I'm getting a promotion, but I'm taking the pay cut.

953
01:04:35,300 --> 01:04:35,860
 That's right.

954
01:04:36,300 --> 01:04:37,560
 And I do remember that.

955
01:04:38,300 --> 01:04:42,160
 I remember, you know, him talking to you guys, telling that story about him talking to you.

956
01:04:42,220 --> 01:04:44,320
 I do remember the first time we were sitting up.

957
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:45,940
 I was a little kid, about eight years old.

958
01:04:45,940 --> 01:04:51,100
 We're sitting up in Memorial Coliseum, and he's at the very top where the office is where he goes.

959
01:04:51,100 --> 01:04:55,760
 And he said, there's 15,043 seats that we've got to figure out how to fill.

960
01:04:56,140 --> 01:05:01,520
 I may have bit off a little bit more than I can chew, but I tell you what, what they did then

961
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:06,660
 and what they continue to do now with Alabama basketball is just, it's remarkable.

962
01:05:08,460 --> 01:05:10,740
 Tell us about Saturday night.

963
01:05:10,860 --> 01:05:14,480
 Number 12, Alabama hosting number one, Arizona.

964
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,260
 Tip off at approximately 830.

965
01:05:19,220 --> 01:05:21,940
 This is the number one team in the country.

966
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:22,820
 You know Arizona.

967
01:05:23,060 --> 01:05:24,940
 You know both of these teams very well.

968
01:05:24,940 --> 01:05:26,420
 Pete is very good.

969
01:05:26,540 --> 01:05:26,980
 Braden.

970
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,300
 Jane Bradley, who played for Alabama.

971
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,080
 We want to try to sell some tickets for you.

972
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,520
 I know three people who are going right now.

973
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,280
 Are tickets available, number one, and how can they do it?

974
01:05:40,380 --> 01:05:42,380
 And talk a little bit about the game itself.

975
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,500
 Yeah, there are some tickets available.

976
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,160
 I think most of them are good tickets up in the upper bowl.

977
01:05:47,300 --> 01:05:49,980
 I think most of the lower bowl is sold out, if I'm not mistaken.

978
01:05:50,220 --> 01:05:53,140
 But it's going to be an unbelievable atmosphere.

979
01:05:53,140 --> 01:05:57,980
 And I've got to give Greg Byrne at Alabama and Coach Jones a lot of credit for this.

980
01:05:58,100 --> 01:06:05,720
 You know, these guys, when my dad passed, we went to him and said, look, we want to do something to honor his legacy with Alabama basketball.

981
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:11,560
 He was living in Tuscaloosa when he passed, and it was just the fondness he had in his heart for the university.

982
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:16,660
 And so Greg was so gracious to, we kind of came up with this idea.

983
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:21,900
 My buddies at Night Eady, who are great marketing guys, came up with an idea of promoting this game.

984
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,060
 And I said, look, my dad never wanted attention.

985
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:26,660
 He didn't want it to be about him.

986
01:06:27,300 --> 01:06:35,340
 So if we could do something to honor what I think is the greatest part of his legacy really was integrating the Southeastern Conference with Wendell Hudson.

987
01:06:35,340 --> 01:06:44,320
 And to do something to honor that, I think it would benefit the university as well as I think it would benefit and honor his legacy.

988
01:06:44,580 --> 01:06:46,680
 And, man, Greg Byrne just jumped all over it.

989
01:06:46,740 --> 01:06:47,800
 And then Nate Oates has continued.

990
01:06:48,180 --> 01:06:49,800
 And we've had some really good games.

991
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,980
 You think of Gonzaga a couple, several years ago that came in here, Illinois.

992
01:06:53,700 --> 01:06:56,520
 And now you've got Arizona, Tommy Lloyd, who's a dude.

993
01:06:56,580 --> 01:07:00,600
 I've known Tommy from back in my Nike days when he was an assistant at Gonzaga with Mark Few.

994
01:07:01,460 --> 01:07:03,100
 Tommy's got a really good basketball team.

995
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:03,800
 But guess what?

996
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:05,140
 So does Nate Oates.

997
01:07:05,140 --> 01:07:10,760
 And these could be two teams that you're going to see playing in Indianapolis in April.

998
01:07:10,940 --> 01:07:12,180
 They are both that good.

999
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:18,320
 Martin Newton hooking up with us, vice president for intercollegiate athletics down at Sanford University.

1000
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:22,120
 Martin, talk to us about Coach Oates and the job he has done.

1001
01:07:22,260 --> 01:07:28,380
 I mean, when he comes in there, this guy, Nick Saban, he was hitting on all eight cylinders across the hall in the football office.

1002
01:07:29,020 --> 01:07:32,160
 And he said, I'm going to take basketball up there with you guys.

1003
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:40,080
 Talk to us about the job he's done and what it means not only for Tuscaloosa, but let's face it, to you there in Birmingham and the Southeastern Conference.

1004
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:46,860
 Well, you know, it's interesting because Coach Oates is a lot like the guy that I hired here at Sanford, Bucky McMillan.

1005
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:47,960
 My goodness.

1006
01:07:48,740 --> 01:07:49,720
 High school roots.

1007
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,260
 Now, he had the opportunity to go to Buffalo and coach and have some success there.

1008
01:07:53,360 --> 01:08:00,100
 But what I love about Coach Oates is that he knows who he is, how he wants to play, and he's not waiving from that.

1009
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:13,040
 He's very steeped in his identity, and boy, they play a style of basketball that's very analytical-driven, very exciting to watch, and it's proven to be very successful.

1010
01:08:13,900 --> 01:08:17,100
 And I just think what he's done at Alabama, yes, he recruits.

1011
01:08:17,180 --> 01:08:18,640
 He does a great job of getting players.

1012
01:08:19,140 --> 01:08:21,760
 But what he's done in putting them on the map, and not just in Alabama.

1013
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,920
 Think about the state of Alabama, guys.

1014
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:24,440
 Thank you.

1015
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:30,700
 In relation to college basketball, what Auburn has done, what UAB has done, what Sanford has done.

1016
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:32,200
 UNA has done.

1017
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:37,880
 You know, we've got Lenny Acuff, who spent a lot of time up there in Hudsonville as our basketball coach now.

1018
01:08:37,980 --> 01:08:45,580
 I mean, you've got some great coaches in this state, and Division I basketball in this state is about as good as it gets right now.

1019
01:08:46,620 --> 01:08:47,900
 I agree with you.

1020
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:52,100
 Listen, you know, we've known Lenny for decades.

1021
01:08:52,940 --> 01:09:01,840
 Again, was incredibly successful at UAH, won 437 games, had an incredible career at Lipscomb.

1022
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,600
 In fact, they put UNA out.

1023
01:09:04,100 --> 01:09:13,960
 Now, with you trying to get that program off the ground, he is one of the, as far as integrity and basketball fundamentals, one of the best we've ever seen.

1024
01:09:14,620 --> 01:09:15,500
 Talk about Lenny.

1025
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:21,340
 And, oh, by the way, you, in your spare time in the last week or so, you've hired a new football coach.

1026
01:09:22,820 --> 01:09:26,080
 Yeah, I've hired, I hope, my last three coaches.

1027
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:27,780
 I'm getting too old to do this.

1028
01:09:28,100 --> 01:09:32,080
 But Lenny is a phenomenal, phenomenal human being, first and foremost.

1029
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:32,400
 Yes.

1030
01:09:32,660 --> 01:09:34,660
 I mean, such a great fit for our institution.

1031
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,620
 And on top of that, he is a phenomenal basketball coach.

1032
01:09:38,700 --> 01:09:42,060
 The guy who may be one of the best offensive basketball coaches in the country.

1033
01:09:42,180 --> 01:09:48,080
 The number of coaches that reach out to Lenny nationwide to talk about, you know, his system offensively.

1034
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:52,280
 So he reminds me, and a lot of my dad, quite frankly.

1035
01:09:52,380 --> 01:09:54,840
 Now, my dad was my hero, so you have to understand that.

1036
01:09:54,840 --> 01:10:00,220
 But the one thing that people talked about with my dad was class and integrity and character.

1037
01:10:00,820 --> 01:10:01,700
 And that's Lenny Acuff.

1038
01:10:02,380 --> 01:10:04,380
 That is Lenny Acuff through and through.

1039
01:10:04,500 --> 01:10:07,260
 So I couldn't be more thrilled to have him as our basketball coach.

1040
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:15,160
 And then we just hired a football coach that a lot of people in the state of Alabama are familiar with, is John Gross, who was the head coach of Jacksonville State for a while.

1041
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,880
 He's been a high school coach for 22 years in the state.

1042
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,900
 And he was at Clemson with Dabo Sweeney.

1043
01:10:21,020 --> 01:10:22,400
 And so John's coming in as well.

1044
01:10:22,500 --> 01:10:26,400
 And he's, I would say those same things, character, class, and integrity with him as well.

1045
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,820
 So very blessed to have some really good coaches down here at Sanford.

1046
01:10:30,340 --> 01:10:33,700
 And a pretty good AD who's built a heck of a program down there.

1047
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:39,920
 How many times does a powerhouse, a money bank like Texas A&M come to your backyard and say,

1048
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,520
 Coach, what about this guy named Bucky?

1049
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,000
 Talk to us about Bucky.

1050
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:49,840
 Now he's stepped it up to the SEC and the program Martin Newton's built there on the hardwoods.

1051
01:10:49,980 --> 01:10:51,900
 Well, Martin Newton didn't have anything to do with it.

1052
01:10:51,940 --> 01:10:53,280
 We've got really good people here.

1053
01:10:53,340 --> 01:10:54,360
 I've got a great president.

1054
01:10:54,580 --> 01:10:57,280
 We've got great coaches and a beautiful campus.

1055
01:10:57,620 --> 01:11:00,500
 And Bucky was just, you know, that was one of those.

1056
01:11:00,580 --> 01:11:05,100
 I told Bucky when I hired him, I said, Bucky, either we're going to do well, you're going to do well,

1057
01:11:05,140 --> 01:11:09,100
 and we're both going to look like we know what we're doing, or you're going to fail and I'm going to get fired.

1058
01:11:09,100 --> 01:11:18,720
 So either way, we're going to do well, but I tell you, Bucky, what he did for this program

1059
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:25,220
 and getting us on the map and really getting us to where we thought we could be, it was remarkable.

1060
01:11:25,580 --> 01:11:31,120
 And the fact that he did it and drew national attention, and I'll never forget the AD at Texas A&M calling me.

1061
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:35,020
 I was at the Final Four, and I really didn't want to lose him, obviously,

1062
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:36,720
 but I couldn't say anything negative about him.

1063
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,180
 He's just such a – he's brilliant.

1064
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:40,160
 He's a lot like Nate.

1065
01:11:40,220 --> 01:11:43,580
 They're very similar, the analytical part of the game, the way they want to play.

1066
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,200
 And so I think Bucky's destined for great things,

1067
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:50,900
 and I'm just so thankful that I got to be a part of that journey with him for a small time.

1068
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,020
 Listen, you've got to run.

1069
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:55,080
 I know you've got another 1.30 meeting.

1070
01:11:55,400 --> 01:12:01,680
 Tell us again how fans can purchase tickets through Ticketmaster or Contanting Samford

1071
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,060
 or the University of Alabama.

1072
01:12:04,060 --> 01:12:11,360
 And, by the way, you're in the middle of a five-year appointment with the NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Committee.

1073
01:12:11,540 --> 01:12:19,620
 Can you give the college football playoff committee some advice on how to put a tournament together?

1074
01:12:20,020 --> 01:12:22,140
 Everybody would appreciate that, Martin.

1075
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,800
 You know, I'm going to remember when you say that.

1076
01:12:24,940 --> 01:12:29,320
 So I literally today, I've been on three conference calls today, and all three of them were men's basketball.

1077
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,880
 I'm the vice chair this year, and I'll be the chairman of the committee next year.

1078
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:37,260
 So I'm going to get you to remember that next year when I'm on television

1079
01:12:37,260 --> 01:12:40,360
 and your team didn't get where you thought they should be, but you said, hey.

1080
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,940
 No, I tell you what, it is a tough, tough task.

1081
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:46,900
 It's a tough job.

1082
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,360
 They've really got a tough job in that, you know, you're talking about 12 teams,

1083
01:12:50,440 --> 01:12:51,920
 and so you're going to leave somebody out.

1084
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,300
 I mean, you know, we're talking with the men's basketball tournament.

1085
01:12:54,420 --> 01:13:01,380
 We've got 68 teams, and yet you still have people that get upset and mad when their team doesn't get in.

1086
01:13:01,380 --> 01:13:05,340
 And so it's a tough job, but I tell you what, I've enjoyed it.

1087
01:13:05,460 --> 01:13:08,820
 And for me, again, I keep talking about my dad, but the honor that I have,

1088
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,380
 we're the only father-son duo that has been on the committee

1089
01:13:12,380 --> 01:13:15,220
 and the only father-son duo that has chaired the committee.

1090
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:16,460
 So I'm really proud of that.

1091
01:13:16,700 --> 01:13:19,100
 That was kind of the feather in my cap.

1092
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:22,920
 Martin, before we jump off, we've got folks driving through the drive-thru

1093
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,480
 and just now tuning in.

1094
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,880
 Quickly, give us the location, because we assume everybody knows

1095
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,680
 what are the big dates coming up this weekend, number 12, Alabama, number 1, Arizona.

1096
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,700
 Quickly, talk to us about some of the particulars,

1097
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,620
 the folks who want to make it down from our neck of the woods.

1098
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,400
 Yeah, you know, it's at Legacy Arena at 8.30 Central Time.

1099
01:13:41,460 --> 01:13:44,000
 It's a late game because it's a nationally televised game.

1100
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,600
 But still, that's an easy drive down 65, so not a big deal there.

1101
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:49,860
 It's a ticket.

1102
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,460
 You can get them at the Legacy Arena.

1103
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,800
 You can go to Alabama's website and get them,

1104
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:56,880
 the University of Alabama's website or Ticketmaster.

1105
01:13:57,140 --> 01:13:59,020
 And there's still some tickets available.

1106
01:13:59,180 --> 01:14:02,600
 I know the good folks at Night Eady would love to hear from you as well.

1107
01:14:02,900 --> 01:14:04,920
 They've got tickets available to sell as well.

1108
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,440
 But, man, I just appreciate people coming out.

1109
01:14:07,500 --> 01:14:09,900
 And, again, it's to not only honor his legacy,

1110
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,660
 but see some really, really, really good basketball.

1111
01:14:13,540 --> 01:14:16,000
 We appreciate you, all the hard work there.

1112
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,260
 I know you're looking forward to this weekend.

1113
01:14:17,460 --> 01:14:19,620
 Thanks so much and all the best this weekend, Martin.

1114
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:21,600
 Well, guys, I appreciate you all.

1115
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:22,280
 Have a great week.

1116
01:14:22,340 --> 01:14:24,640
 You know, I used to spend a lot of time up in that neck of the woods

1117
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,200
 during the summer in basketball camp.

1118
01:14:26,540 --> 01:14:30,160
 So, I guess Lawrence and Huntsville is near and dear to my heart.

1119
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,860
 So, we appreciate you having us on and promoting this event.

1120
01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:34,800
 Absolutely.

1121
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:36,760
 And the fish are still biting down the river, too.

1122
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:40,820
 Martin Newton, looking at the vice president for intercollegiate athletics.

1123
01:14:40,820 --> 01:14:41,400
 Thank you, Martin.

1124
01:14:41,420 --> 01:14:47,660
 Stamford University, number one, Arizona, taking on number 12, Alabama this weekend in Beham.

1125
01:14:48,300 --> 01:14:50,780
 Coming up, what in the heck is going on in Michigan?

1126
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,280
 And why are folks trying to tie Alabama into it?

1127
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:56,440
 Craig Stevenson on that and more straight ahead of the Bumult Bug Show.

1128
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 Stay with us.

1129
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1130
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1131
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1132
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1133
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1134
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1135
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 Join us this Saturday with doors opening at 10 a.m.

1136
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1137
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1138
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1139
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1140
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1141
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:53,620
 The Phillips Brothers Auctions facility is located at 2100 Alabama Highway 101, Rogersville, Alabama, just south of Highway 72 at Elgin Crossroads.

1142
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 Join us Saturday, December the 13th, for this grand opening celebration and high noon Great American Firearm and Knife Auction.

1143
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1144
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1147
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1150
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1151
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 Let the million-dollar band, including six Muscle Shoals high school grads, get you ready for Champy's chicken and the game.

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1154
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1155
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1156
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1157
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1159
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1161
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 From the University of Alabama, this is Crimson Tide Today.

1179
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:21,300
 It's a daily update on Bama sports, and it's brought to you by Crimson Drive, driven by NASCAR.

1180
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 Streaming live on Thursday at 2 p.m. Central on all CTSN social media platforms at UA underscore CTSN.

1181
01:18:29,340 --> 01:18:31,020
 Hello again, everybody. I'm Roger Hoover.

1182
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:37,160
 On Thursday's edition of Crimson Drive, we'll be joined by our radio sideline reporter for Alabama football, Corey Reamer.

1183
01:18:37,480 --> 01:18:42,740
 Trying to figure out how we can get both sides of the football to play their best at the same time.

1184
01:18:42,860 --> 01:18:47,440
 We've had offense really carry the team during parts of the season, defense carry it through the other parts.

1185
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:48,680
 How do we put it all together?

1186
01:18:49,340 --> 01:18:52,320
 You never know what is going to happen right now.

1187
01:18:52,440 --> 01:18:59,500
 You can find a rhythm, get everybody on the same page, and you go out there and you take care of business next Friday.

1188
01:19:00,260 --> 01:19:03,840
 What that does from a confidence standpoint, you know, leading into the next game.

1189
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:12,340
 You know, it's just these are little building blocks, and I think it's, you know, imperative for us to get off to a good start in each of these games.

1190
01:19:12,440 --> 01:19:20,560
 We've had some games where we've been a little bit slow coming out of the gate, and if we can have some early success, this team can really build off of that momentum.

1191
01:19:21,340 --> 01:19:22,160
 I'll have more in a moment.

1192
01:19:23,300 --> 01:19:29,640
 Hey, Bama fans, each Tuesday and Thursday at 2 p.m. Central, join us live for Crimson Drive, driven by NASCAR.

1193
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 This live streaming talk show features the latest on Alabama athletics with exclusive conversations with Tide student athletes, coaches, and media members giving their perspective on the Crimson Tide.

1194
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:47,580
 You can watch on YouTube, Facebook, and X with all conversations archived as well on the Alabama Insider Podcast.

1195
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1196
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1197
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1198
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1199
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:10,660
 The Score.

1200
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:15,820
 Now, back with Boomo Bugg on 93.9 The Score.

1201
01:20:16,420 --> 01:20:17,340
 Welcome back in.

1202
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,660
 It is a pleasure for us to say hello to Craig Stevenson.

1203
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,080
 He's got it all covered there at AL.com.

1204
01:20:23,180 --> 01:20:23,960
 Craig, welcome in.

1205
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:24,540
 How are you?

1206
01:20:28,140 --> 01:20:31,160
 Hopefully we'll be able to hook up with Craig here in a moment.

1207
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:36,440
 Baby, obviously one of the things we want to get to is the rumblings going on in Michigan

1208
01:20:36,440 --> 01:20:41,080
 and the impact it's having as far as the rumor mill here in Tuscaloosa.

1209
01:20:41,260 --> 01:20:42,940
 I guess there's two ways of looking at it.

1210
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,600
 If you've got a coach that's, you know, that's popular out there, that's got a lot of equity,

1211
01:20:46,740 --> 01:20:48,700
 anytime there's a big opening, they're going to come knocking.

1212
01:20:48,780 --> 01:20:54,400
 I guess the other side of the coin is if nobody's knocking, that means nobody has a lot of respect for your coach.

1213
01:20:54,440 --> 01:20:56,100
 So it depends on how you look at it, I guess, huh?

1214
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:56,920
 Yeah, it is.

1215
01:20:56,980 --> 01:20:59,760
 I think he's rejoined us, but you're exactly right.

1216
01:21:00,020 --> 01:21:01,460
 Let's see if Craig is there now.

1217
01:21:01,460 --> 01:21:03,340
 Well, this is Craig Stevenson at AL.com.

1218
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,100
 Craig, we're knocking on door number two.

1219
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:06,180
 Are you with us now?

1220
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:07,640
 Can you hear me?

1221
01:21:07,940 --> 01:21:08,660
 There you go, baby.

1222
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:09,060
 There we go.

1223
01:21:09,100 --> 01:21:09,980
 Can you hear me?

1224
01:21:10,820 --> 01:21:12,540
 I was here the whole time.

1225
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:14,540
 Well, we were.

1226
01:21:15,420 --> 01:21:16,760
 We were out to lunch, Craig.

1227
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:17,860
 We stay out there.

1228
01:21:17,940 --> 01:21:23,980
 Craig, talk to us about what, talk about more mess at Michigan, literally a more mess at Michigan.

1229
01:21:24,140 --> 01:21:26,360
 Where do you start in breaking this down?

1230
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,420
 I don't think anybody saw this in the comment.

1231
01:21:28,420 --> 01:21:34,700
 And, boy, does it, it not only affects Michigan, it knocks down potentially a lot of dominoes all over the college football world.

1232
01:21:34,780 --> 01:21:36,160
 Where do you start in breaking it down?

1233
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:37,520
 Geez, yeah.

1234
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:37,740
 I know.

1235
01:21:37,780 --> 01:21:39,900
 The news broke yesterday afternoon.

1236
01:21:41,540 --> 01:21:44,640
 And, you know, just that he had been fired for an off-the-field situation.

1237
01:21:44,820 --> 01:21:45,980
 And then I left and went home.

1238
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:53,040
 And by the time I got home, there was a whole escalation in terms of him being wanted by the police and eventually arrested and all that.

1239
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:56,920
 I mean, it was a really unfortunate, sad situation.

1240
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:57,220
 Yeah.

1241
01:21:57,220 --> 01:22:05,020
 But it opens up a huge job after we thought the coaching carousel was more or less done.

1242
01:22:05,100 --> 01:22:07,240
 I mean, there were a couple of group of five jobs still open.

1243
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:11,740
 But all the big jobs had been filled by that point.

1244
01:22:12,700 --> 01:22:24,320
 And, you know, there are some guys who probably may be regretting taking the jobs that they did because they were not aware the Michigan job was going to come open.

1245
01:22:24,860 --> 01:22:26,820
 Well, let's talk about the obvious here, Craig.

1246
01:22:26,980 --> 01:22:28,500
 And let's just cut to the chase here.

1247
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:33,180
 If money is the reason you're going to leave where you are and go, Michigan can hang with anybody, including Texas.

1248
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:35,040
 I mean, they grow money on trees up there.

1249
01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:36,100
 Look at the portal.

1250
01:22:36,180 --> 01:22:37,980
 So if money is the issue, it's a done deal.

1251
01:22:38,420 --> 01:22:40,660
 But obviously, there's more to it with these coaches.

1252
01:22:40,940 --> 01:22:41,780
 They got families.

1253
01:22:42,300 --> 01:22:44,360
 And we can go on and on as far as other reasons.

1254
01:22:44,820 --> 01:22:48,260
 But let's talk about the part of the pond, the elephant in the room here.

1255
01:22:49,180 --> 01:22:51,640
 You mentioned getting home within an hour yesterday.

1256
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:55,560
 I always saw it was almost like DeBoer was already packing his clothes and heading to Michigan.

1257
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,860
 If you go to the Michigan media up there, maybe we're missing something.

1258
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:05,920
 But your thoughts, let's start with that because that's the one that impacts the most as far as closest to us here.

1259
01:23:06,180 --> 01:23:06,360
 Yeah.

1260
01:23:07,260 --> 01:23:11,780
 Your thoughts about how much teeth does it have with DeBoer going to Michigan?

1261
01:23:11,780 --> 01:23:13,040
 We know they'd love to have Michigan.

1262
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:14,440
 The question is, does he want Michigan?

1263
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,480
 Yeah, I'm kind of of two minds.

1264
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:21,580
 It doesn't make a ton of sense right now.

1265
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:29,300
 But if they go and get their butts beat by Oklahoma, they've lost to Oklahoma three times in the last 13 months.

1266
01:23:29,460 --> 01:23:32,120
 And he's kind of looking for a soft place to land.

1267
01:23:32,220 --> 01:23:32,860
 Maybe so.

1268
01:23:33,020 --> 01:23:40,820
 At some point, does it become a Ray Perkins and Bill Curry type situation where, man, I can't hack it.

1269
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:42,080
 I've got to get out of here.

1270
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,120
 And Michigan would certainly be a soft spot to land.

1271
01:23:45,180 --> 01:23:47,940
 And I thought that was the Penn State thing.

1272
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:51,140
 Apparently, nothing to it.

1273
01:23:51,340 --> 01:23:54,800
 But there may be at Michigan, he's from that part of the country.

1274
01:23:54,900 --> 01:23:57,700
 He's from South Dakota, which is not too far away from Michigan.

1275
01:23:58,700 --> 01:24:04,620
 He's coached in Michigan, at Eastern Michigan, coached at Indiana, so he's coached in the Big Ten.

1276
01:24:05,900 --> 01:24:10,680
 I doubt it happens, but I wouldn't put a 0.0 chance on it.

1277
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:18,440
 It's like I say, if it's money, then I think it's going to be, not that Alabama doesn't have money, but Michigan's got money on steroids up there.

1278
01:24:18,820 --> 01:24:19,780
 Let's talk about this.

1279
01:24:19,940 --> 01:24:24,340
 In that case, and you'll never guess what question I'm going to ask you next, Craig.

1280
01:24:24,340 --> 01:24:24,940
 I don't know.

1281
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,200
 Does this involve Lane Kiffin?

1282
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:28,200
 Is that what you're talking about?

1283
01:24:28,660 --> 01:24:34,620
 Can you imagine what would happen if, talk to us about, in that scenario, what would happen in Tuscaloosa?

1284
01:24:35,660 --> 01:24:36,420
 Yeah, I don't know.

1285
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:45,400
 I mean, that's the question, and is how lead pipe is Lane Kiffin's deal at LSU.

1286
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:54,660
 You know, because you remember Bobby Petrino was at Arkansas, and he had a clause in his contract that he was not allowed to leave for anywhere else in the SEC without paying an enormous buyout.

1287
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,640
 And I don't know there's anything like that in Kiffin's deal.

1288
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,140
 I know the Alabama job is the one he has always wanted.

1289
01:25:00,820 --> 01:25:07,680
 The want has not been mutual between the athletic director and some of the money people at Alabama.

1290
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:13,680
 Don't trust Kiffin for a lot of reasons, and part of what he showed when he was leaving Ole Miss, I think it's part of that.

1291
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:13,760
 Yeah, Craig.

1292
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:14,980
 Yeah.

1293
01:25:16,940 --> 01:25:19,100
 Go ahead, Craig.

1294
01:25:19,460 --> 01:25:23,560
 No, I was just going to say, so if it comes down to it, would he be interested?

1295
01:25:23,700 --> 01:25:24,060
 Probably.

1296
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:25,820
 Wow.

1297
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:26,660
 Can you imagine?

1298
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:31,260
 Can you imagine the LSU-Alabama game in that case?

1299
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 Yeah, Craig, I just don't, after the circus that we've gone through for a month with him, I just can't see that happening.

1300
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 I think another situation in Michigan is, will Ward Manuel, the current athletic director, be allowed to make the next hire?

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 This has been, quote, rumored, and I'm not going to get into the tabloid part of this,

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 which we saw unfold throughout the course of the night.

1303
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 Supposedly, rumors about this have been going on for weeks or months, and this is behind the Harbaugh situation, the sun stealing, all of the other mess that has been going on there for years, and I wonder if Ward Manuel is going to be allowed to make the next hire, and the next person who comes in, whoever it is, they're not going to have to win games.

1304
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 They're going to have to change a culture.

1305
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 Yeah, that's a good point.

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 They're going to have to get out the Harbaugh stink, if you will, out of that place, because it, you know, not just, you know, all the coaches suspended and people on the staff arrested and, you know, charged with major crimes.

1307
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 There was like a cyber crime going on with one of the staffers a few years ago, the offensive coordinator, and I mean, yeah, it's a mess up there, but you may be right.

1308
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 It may be like a Scott Woodward situation at LSU where somebody takes over and says, man, you're out.

1309
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 We're not, we don't trust you to make this hire, and so I don't know.

1310
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 I'm not really plugged in at Michigan, but certainly it seems like they've got a lot of work to do up there to clean it up.

1311
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 Craig Stevenson, AL.com.

1312
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 Craig, obviously, if DeBoer wants to sit here and squash all this, he's going to have an opportunity here shortly because they get back out of the practice field and with that media opportunities, will the media do the job and ask him directly that question?

1313
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 If so, will he give you, well, I have, I'm concentrating on Oklahoma now, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, bleak, coach speak.

1314
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 It's a good question.

1315
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 Now, he was asked before the SEC championship game about Penn State, and he said there was never any interest there.

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 Right.

1317
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 And I don't, I'm trying to remember the timeline.

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 I think that was before they had hired Matt Campbell, so the job was to live in that one.

1319
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 But with Michigan, it may be a little bit different with Michigan.

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 I don't know.

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 I mean, you know, certainly his agents have probably had some conversations.

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 Thank you.

1323
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 Again, I don't know, I don't know if he's, I doubt he does leave, but again, if he loses to Oklahoma, it may be a situation where he decides he wants a soft spot to land, and Michigan would be a great spot for that.

1324
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 Craig, the other big story this week has been Notre Dame's hissy fit when they got left out of the college football playoff selection committee.

1325
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 Again, Alabama, Miami beat Notre Dame head-to-head.

1326
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 Alabama had a better resume, significantly better than the athletic director, Bacharach, pitched a fit, then got mad at the ACC.

1327
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 Dan Wolkin of ESPN now, he's there now, sent a tweet earlier today.

1328
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 Athletic directors in other leagues are threatening to freeze Notre Dame out of future schedules.

1329
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 Notre Dame's had a pretty tough week themselves.

1330
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 Yeah, they have, and I will say this, I thought the committee did them a little dirty by keeping them behind, ahead of Miami, and then all of a sudden flipping them to the end.

1331
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 I don't know why they couldn't have done that several weeks ago, and it may lead to a situation where we no longer have the weekly selection show, because it does seem to create more controversy than we really need.

1332
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 But yeah, Notre Dame has not handled it well, although, you know, they are, even though they're not a full member of the ACC, they certainly have a partnership with the ACC, and it was a tough needle to thread for the ACC to be able to back Miami at the expense of Notre Dame, but it seems like that's what they did.

1333
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 Yeah, it's not, I think this, I will say this, though, you know, for the people that want to blow up the bowl system and blow up the way things are done at certain levels, Notre Dame backing out of the Pop-Tarts Bowl certainly created a lot of mess for the bowls.

1334
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 And I think we've seen today that the LA Bowl is not coming back next year, and I, you know, I just think that we may see a lot of these smaller bowls cease to exist just because they're not able to get the teams, get teams or the teams that they want, you know, good teams.

1335
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 Absolutely.

1336
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 We mentioned this a couple of times, announced earlier today, that Auburn is going to be playing UNA not once but twice in 2028 and 2032.

1337
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 And I've asked you this twice this year about Alabama playing in in-state school.

1338
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 Isn't it interesting?

1339
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 Auburn is adding one more game.

1340
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 Yeah, it is.

1341
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 The notable one today of Auburn is, I mean, that's big for UNA, obviously, but Auburn playing Troy is massive just from a perspective situation.

1342
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 It was one of those situations.

1343
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 And as much as, you know, the way that Alabama views UAB, Auburn views Troy in a lot of ways, and nobody thought they would, quote, unquote, stoop to play Troy.

1344
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 Well, they're doing it now, which is big, and it's big for Troy, and it's not, you know, it's good for Auburn to do it.

1345
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 In terms of Alabama, as long as the current AD is there, Greg Byrne, it doesn't seem like there's going to be any change in that philosophy.

1346
01:31:09,820 --> 01:31:15,200
 It's a shame, and obviously scheduling is going to be a little tougher now with the nine SEC games.

1347
01:31:15,480 --> 01:31:27,620
 But, yeah, I still don't understand why you're playing, you know, Mercer and Eastern Illinois when you could be playing North Alabama and Alabama State.

1348
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 And, again, I get why Alabama doesn't want to play UAB.

1349
01:31:31,180 --> 01:31:36,120
 They've got nothing to lose from playing, you know, North Alabama and Jacksonville State as far as I'm concerned.

1350
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 Yeah, or South Alabama, and I thought they'd do that when Saban was there with Joey Jones.

1351
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 Always enjoy the conversation with you, Craig.

1352
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 We certainly enjoy talking to Thomas Ashworth, Ben Thomas, Randy Kennedy, and the crew.

1353
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 Where can we get online to get your stuff and the teams?

1354
01:31:52,980 --> 01:31:59,720
 Yeah, al.com slash sports, al.com slash SEC slash USA, whatever, slash Troy.

1355
01:31:59,820 --> 01:32:00,620
 We've got it all covered.

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 Thanks a lot.

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 Thanks so much, and have a great week, okay?

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 All right, guys.

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 Take care.

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 Thank you, bud.

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 And I think this one's a little bit different because, um, yeah.

1510
01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,400
 So I think this one's a big job.

1511
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:03,220
 And I think that's what has created some angst in this Alabama fan base.

1512
01:40:03,860 --> 01:40:07,420
 Well, the thing is, we don't know what road, Jimmy, Jimmy, Texas is obviously doing his

1513
01:40:07,420 --> 01:40:10,600
 job and trying to help him win no matter what decision he makes.

1514
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:14,720
 But, you know, whatever's going to happen there at Michigan is going to happen.

1515
01:40:14,860 --> 01:40:17,660
 We're on this end of the narrative right now.

1516
01:40:17,700 --> 01:40:21,920
 And I thought this was an interesting, uh, share from a guy that I think a lot of folks

1517
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:23,540
 respect in the business, Chris Lowe.

1518
01:40:23,620 --> 01:40:26,660
 They eat meat out there these days, but here's this quote and see what you think, Ryan.

1519
01:40:27,060 --> 01:40:28,380
 It's obviously regarding DeBoer.

1520
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:32,720
 I do not believe he's the kind of person or competitor that would run to a challenge like

1521
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:37,760
 Alabama and replace an icon like Nick Saban and then run away after two years.

1522
01:40:37,900 --> 01:40:39,480
 What is your response to Chris Lowe?

1523
01:40:39,540 --> 01:40:41,860
 I think a lot of folks respect in the fraternity.

1524
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:43,600
 No, absolutely.

1525
01:40:43,900 --> 01:40:50,340
 Listen, um, I, I do know, uh, you know, obviously Chris and I have some of the same sources.

1526
01:40:50,340 --> 01:40:56,840
 So, uh, that quote has been, uh, uh, uh, one that's, that's, that's been passed a couple

1527
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:57,220
 of times.

1528
01:40:57,220 --> 01:41:01,240
 So, yes, I, listen, let me tell you what I do know about Kalen DeBoer.

1529
01:41:01,460 --> 01:41:08,840
 I think he accepted this job based on understanding the challenge and the challenge is that this

1530
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:14,040
 Alabama fan base is, is obviously demanding, you know, yes.

1531
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:20,720
 I mean, it's, it's hard to deal, you know, to the standard, but the problem is, and I think

1532
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:25,480
 this is where Saban got out is he knew that he couldn't maintain the standard because based

1533
01:41:25,480 --> 01:41:29,760
 on what coach Saban had said is when I can no longer maintain the standard that I've been

1534
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:32,020
 able to create, that's the day that I'll retire.

1535
01:41:32,220 --> 01:41:32,340
 Okay.

1536
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:33,240
 That's, that's his words.

1537
01:41:33,300 --> 01:41:33,500
 Okay.

1538
01:41:33,900 --> 01:41:38,040
 So then when you, when you back up and, and you really, really get to thinking about it,

1539
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:44,860
 um, um, um, I think when you, when you spend time looking at Kalen DeBoer, he raised his

1540
01:41:44,860 --> 01:41:50,400
 hand when very few people were going to raise their hand to be able to say, I'm your guy.

1541
01:41:50,540 --> 01:41:58,140
 And I don't think DeBoer, from the people that I spoke to the Penn state job, yes, they had

1542
01:41:58,140 --> 01:41:58,680
 an interest.

1543
01:41:58,900 --> 01:42:00,720
 He never had an interest in them.

1544
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:01,740
 That's great.

1545
01:42:01,980 --> 01:42:07,480
 And I think, and I think one of the reasons why he did not is because it's, you know, you,

1546
01:42:07,480 --> 01:42:13,960
 you have to analyze who you're working for, the climate that you're working for and to

1547
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:18,620
 understand, you know, Greg Byrne is the guy that has, has hired Kalen DeBoer.

1548
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:23,420
 And, and I think that's the part, when you look at it, he's going to be the guy that's

1549
01:42:23,420 --> 01:42:28,320
 going to make sure that he gets everything he needs to be successful because if he's not,

1550
01:42:28,440 --> 01:42:30,440
 then that's a reflection on Greg Byrne.

1551
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:31,680
 So it's Greg Byrne.

1552
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:36,640
 It's, it's very similar to, you know, across the state with John Cohen, trying to make sure

1553
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:42,480
 that Hugh Brees had every opportunity to be successful, making sure it's, it's very similar,

1554
01:42:42,540 --> 01:42:42,720
 right?

1555
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:47,660
 You don't want your head coach to fall on your watch if you're the guy that hired him.

1556
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:50,760
 And I think it's why Greg Byrne, and I do think that there is an alignment.

1557
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:52,700
 I think you used that word a couple of minutes ago.

1558
01:42:53,200 --> 01:43:01,120
 You know, I, I think that's another feeling here is that this fan base understands DeBoer,

1559
01:43:01,420 --> 01:43:02,580
 President, AD.

1560
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:04,820
 They're all on the same page.

1561
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:09,860
 And many times that is not the way that it goes in athletic departments.

1562
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:17,020
 And I think that's, that's where, where, where this is, that is that, I think when you look

1563
01:43:17,020 --> 01:43:19,600
 at Taylor DeBoer, I think he's building something.

1564
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:23,860
 And I think a lot of people are looking at it going, hold on a minute.

1565
01:43:24,300 --> 01:43:26,220
 He followed Nick Saban.

1566
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:27,120
 Right.

1567
01:43:27,620 --> 01:43:30,360
 He, he didn't back down from that.

1568
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:32,520
 He's been able to manage it.

1569
01:43:32,580 --> 01:43:34,600
 He's got Alabama in the college football playoffs.

1570
01:43:34,820 --> 01:43:37,700
 And you guys may discount me for saying this.

1571
01:43:38,100 --> 01:43:42,880
 I don't think this is a very talented football team, top to bottom.

1572
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:48,460
 I think he's been able to coach around some of these obstacles, weaknesses.

1573
01:43:48,700 --> 01:43:50,460
 And I think that's what grabs people.

1574
01:43:50,580 --> 01:43:53,220
 I'm talking about people in the know that know football.

1575
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:56,140
 I think this is one of those things that grabs.

1576
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:57,260
 And I think.

1577
01:43:58,820 --> 01:43:59,340
 Sure.

1578
01:43:59,580 --> 01:44:05,780
 Because I think the job that he's done is simply, it's, it's, it's out of this world.

1579
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:06,240
 Right.

1580
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:13,540
 I mean, for him, yes, the Oklahoma loss hurts, the Florida State loss hurts, the Georgia loss

1581
01:44:13,540 --> 01:44:15,960
 hurts, but this is the new college football.

1582
01:44:16,140 --> 01:44:17,860
 You're not going to run this thing undefeated.

1583
01:44:17,860 --> 01:44:20,900
 That day, those, that day has happened.

1584
01:44:21,440 --> 01:44:22,340
 They're gone.

1585
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:23,400
 It's not going to happen.

1586
01:44:23,900 --> 01:44:29,440
 So here we are in the world of college athletics and as the day turns in Tuscaloosa.

1587
01:44:30,660 --> 01:44:36,180
 Ryan, I'm glad Harold read that because I was about to read that tweet in,

1588
01:44:36,180 --> 01:44:40,460
 and Chris Lowe told that to Charlie Potter, Alabama has been off this week.

1589
01:44:40,540 --> 01:44:41,740
 They're back tomorrow to practice.

1590
01:44:41,740 --> 01:44:43,740
 And I'm sure he'll be asked that question.

1591
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:49,660
 Chris Lowe would not let that out publicly unless he knew what he was talking about.

1592
01:44:50,140 --> 01:44:51,980
 And I thought about calling you last night.

1593
01:44:52,020 --> 01:44:55,720
 And I said, no, no, he's got a text every 10 minutes.

1594
01:44:55,720 --> 01:45:02,940
 And you've got, I'm not going to divulge what it is, but you've got impeccable sources

1595
01:45:02,940 --> 01:45:04,880
 for this information.

1596
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:10,520
 Let me ask you about the short term as far as Oklahoma is concerned.

1597
01:45:11,820 --> 01:45:13,900
 I'm sure the bye week has helped.

1598
01:45:14,480 --> 01:45:16,340
 What are you hearing about the health?

1599
01:45:16,440 --> 01:45:21,080
 When you've got eight starters out by the start of the fourth quarter, you are going to have

1600
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:25,400
 issues even though Alabama got outplayed and outcoached.

1601
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:30,160
 What are you hearing about the health of this team, their mind frame?

1602
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:34,200
 What do you expect, Norman, a week from tomorrow night?

1603
01:45:34,980 --> 01:45:36,580
 Yeah, I think they're on their way.

1604
01:45:36,900 --> 01:45:43,320
 I think the health of this team is probably going to be as good as you could probably ask for at, you know,

1605
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:45,840
 the game number 14 of the college season.

1606
01:45:45,980 --> 01:45:51,580
 So I think when you look at the health overall, I think they're making some progress.

1607
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:56,640
 I think they've got to feel, you know, pretty good from what I'm able to hear about Jam Miller.

1608
01:45:56,940 --> 01:45:58,360
 I think he's on his way.

1609
01:45:58,620 --> 01:45:59,760
 Now, listen, anything can happen.

1610
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:00,880
 I mean, there could be setback.

1611
01:46:01,620 --> 01:46:03,520
 I think Cam Newberry is going to be okay.

1612
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:05,420
 I think Justin Jefferson is going to be okay.

1613
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:07,220
 I think Xavier Brown is going to be okay.

1614
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:11,700
 But then I also look at it and I look at other possibilities.

1615
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:14,180
 You know, can you get a Josh Cuavers back?

1616
01:46:14,380 --> 01:46:16,640
 I don't think that's too predetermined at this point.

1617
01:46:17,540 --> 01:46:24,480
 And that's the part that I just don't know if anybody, you know, truly knows, you know, other than him.

1618
01:46:25,740 --> 01:46:28,260
 And, you know, we're going to find out.

1619
01:46:28,260 --> 01:46:34,900
 You know, we're going to find out if that, because it's a big part of the puzzle, right, to be able to find out.

1620
01:46:35,220 --> 01:46:44,020
 And, you know, that's where we're at, is trying to figure out, you know, where we're at with Josh Cuavers,

1621
01:46:44,140 --> 01:46:45,980
 because I think he's such an important part.

1622
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:49,720
 And if he's not able to go, can you get Danny Lewis back?

1623
01:46:49,820 --> 01:46:51,160
 Because I saw him on the field.

1624
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:52,340
 He didn't look healthy.

1625
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:55,940
 And you need that other weapon here.

1626
01:46:56,380 --> 01:47:04,920
 And, you know, and so, but I think just a couple of days to reset is, I think, the very important thing that is going to be able to be.

1627
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:05,580
 It will be created.

1628
01:47:06,980 --> 01:47:08,260
 Ryan Fowler hooking up with us.

1629
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:10,720
 He's the host of the game, Tide 109 FM.

1630
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:13,960
 That game is so huge in so many ways, is it not, Ryan?

1631
01:47:14,020 --> 01:47:15,160
 Obviously, you win.

1632
01:47:15,660 --> 01:47:19,180
 You keep your hopes alive of the national championship in year two of DeBoer.

1633
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:23,880
 The question is, what happens if they lose and have that influence the decision?

1634
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:29,540
 And the question we're talking about here going forward, to me, that game has so many tentacles to it.

1635
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:38,140
 You know, I do think that there's quite a few, but, you know, I think Alabama's the favorite for a reason, right?

1636
01:47:38,180 --> 01:47:39,460
 I mean, they got the better football team.

1637
01:47:39,780 --> 01:47:46,640
 This is a distraction of what's happening right now, because Caleb DeBoer may not address it, you know, into the media until Monday,

1638
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:54,040
 but he will be forced to address this on Monday and probably even sooner with his team, right?

1639
01:47:54,040 --> 01:48:00,880
 He's going to be asked to make some type of comment because you can't even open Twitter.

1640
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:02,340
 You can't turn on the television.

1641
01:48:02,620 --> 01:48:07,840
 It's all over the place when you look at this, and it's going to be a distraction.

1642
01:48:08,180 --> 01:48:12,960
 I mean, I don't know if there's any way to put it out there.

1643
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:15,620
 I mean, it will be, but I look at Oklahoma.

1644
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:20,720
 Their team is probably not going to score, you know, a ton of points, so I'm not a betting guy,

1645
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:22,780
 but I'd probably take the under in this situation.

1646
01:48:25,180 --> 01:48:32,340
 Ryan, he is not going to, if Alabama does lose to Oklahoma, again, you call it a hunch or whatever you want to,

1647
01:48:32,420 --> 01:48:37,940
 but I've had a couple of people tell me, and you know who they are in the last month, he's not a quitter,

1648
01:48:38,260 --> 01:48:43,500
 and if he loses to Oklahoma, well, he's going to tuck his tail and run to Ann Arbor.

1649
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:51,280
 I just don't see that happening, but, Ryan, everyone knows during the winter conditioning,

1650
01:48:51,780 --> 01:48:56,660
 during the spring, I hope the first thing he says in the team meeting is,

1651
01:48:56,840 --> 01:49:02,100
 guys, we're going to run the ball in 2026 one way or the other,

1652
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:06,420
 and everybody knows Alabama's mantra is run the dadgum ball,

1653
01:49:07,020 --> 01:49:10,840
 and we all know that after 17 years of Nick Saban.

1654
01:49:11,440 --> 01:49:17,660
 Ryan, what do you feel in the spring when they've got much more time to sit down?

1655
01:49:17,780 --> 01:49:19,740
 You may have a lighter offensive line.

1656
01:49:19,740 --> 01:49:25,360
 You've got what William Barge or Redfish mentioned may be the best running back coming in

1657
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:29,640
 since Cornell Williams, and again, we'll see where all this stuff goes,

1658
01:49:30,220 --> 01:49:36,960
 but the spring, what changes will you think he makes beginning in the winter conditioning

1659
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:38,460
 and also the spring?

1660
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:44,340
 You know, I think you've got to feel comfortable with that position.

1661
01:49:44,700 --> 01:49:48,540
 See, I don't think that position is one of those that really jumps out to me

1662
01:49:48,540 --> 01:49:51,760
 as just being an over-talented group, right?

1663
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:55,940
 I just don't feel that that's an A-plus room.

1664
01:49:56,160 --> 01:50:00,620
 I think it's probably a – I'm not even sure I'd call it average.

1665
01:50:01,300 --> 01:50:06,380
 I think it's probably slightly below average in the SEC.

1666
01:50:06,780 --> 01:50:10,980
 I just don't feel that that room – so I think that's the first step is,

1667
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:15,240
 do you look at AK Deer and say that that's enough?

1668
01:50:15,700 --> 01:50:17,500
 Do you look at Xavier Crowell?

1669
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:19,180
 Do you feel that you can be there?

1670
01:50:19,300 --> 01:50:23,640
 Or do you have to go to the portal and go get you a big-time back?

1671
01:50:24,540 --> 01:50:34,300
 That is, you know, that's a question at this point, you know, is a debate.

1672
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:37,680
 I don't have the answer to that because I'm not in that quarterback –

1673
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:38,920
 excuse me, that running back room.

1674
01:50:39,740 --> 01:50:44,180
 But I think it's a depleted room at this point because of injuries,

1675
01:50:44,180 --> 01:50:48,040
 but do you feel there's enough talent to be able to do what you're saying

1676
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:48,720
 that they need to do?

1677
01:50:48,780 --> 01:50:49,680
 I don't disagree with you.

1678
01:50:49,820 --> 01:50:51,060
 I mean, they're going to have to run the football.

1679
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:51,360
 Absolutely.

1680
01:50:51,360 --> 01:50:56,200
 They've got to run it to a level that's a pretty level of effectiveness

1681
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:58,560
 because you can't be pass-happy here.

1682
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:02,120
 That's one of the things that I look at.

1683
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:06,360
 Can't be one-dimensional taking on guys like Venable's defense either, right?

1684
01:51:06,440 --> 01:51:08,160
 Quickly, how healthy is Ty Simpson?

1685
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:14,340
 Well, I mean, I have to base it on, you know, what he has to say.

1686
01:51:14,480 --> 01:51:17,400
 I mean, he says that he feels good, so you have to base it on that.

1687
01:51:18,260 --> 01:51:20,240
 Yeah, I mean, I've heard all kind of different buzz.

1688
01:51:20,420 --> 01:51:20,760
 Oh, yeah.

1689
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,560
 You know, we can't do our job based on buzz.

1690
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:27,880
 I mean, because if I did buzz, my Lord, I can't even imagine what I showed.

1691
01:51:27,980 --> 01:51:29,060
 But, I mean, I've heard all the stuff.

1692
01:51:29,140 --> 01:51:31,240
 I saw the 10s unit at Auburn.

1693
01:51:31,480 --> 01:51:33,500
 I think you've got to look at it and say, well, what was that for?

1694
01:51:33,580 --> 01:51:34,780
 Was that a muscle tightness?

1695
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:36,240
 Was that because of the cold weather?

1696
01:51:36,620 --> 01:51:37,660
 Because it was a cold, right?

1697
01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:39,160
 I mean, it was super, super cold.

1698
01:51:39,580 --> 01:51:40,260
 You know, did something.

1699
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:41,420
 Nobody's healthy.

1700
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:43,360
 You know, that was game number 12.

1701
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:45,120
 12 games then.

1702
01:51:45,300 --> 01:51:46,320
 So, I mean, he's taking a beating.

1703
01:51:46,620 --> 01:51:49,060
 I mean, look, this offensive line is not able to protect him.

1704
01:51:49,260 --> 01:51:54,360
 So, I would say, you know, at this point, probably everybody's 80%, 85%.

1705
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:56,120
 I don't think ties that far off.

1706
01:51:56,220 --> 01:51:59,340
 I do know that, you know, he's probably battled some things.

1707
01:51:59,580 --> 01:52:04,320
 But, I don't think he's in a situation that it's going to, you know, interfere this game.

1708
01:52:04,380 --> 01:52:06,240
 Because I think he's been able to grind through several games.

1709
01:52:06,340 --> 01:52:07,960
 I don't think he needed a little bit of time to reset.

1710
01:52:08,140 --> 01:52:09,140
 And I hope he's been able to do that.

1711
01:52:10,140 --> 01:52:11,600
 Well, we'll certainly see.

1712
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:19,880
 Listen, I'm sure you're going to have quite a show this afternoon with the questions about the future of Kellen DeBoer and this football team.

1713
01:52:19,940 --> 01:52:21,400
 And only you can answer them.

1714
01:52:21,480 --> 01:52:22,780
 Where can we get online?

1715
01:52:22,780 --> 01:52:27,800
 And if somebody will up to listen or call in, where can they get online?

1716
01:52:28,900 --> 01:52:31,120
 Yeah, and we've got Chris Lowe coming up at 2.15.

1717
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:32,260
 He's going to be a part of the show.

1718
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:33,680
 I've talked with him a couple times today.

1719
01:52:33,860 --> 01:52:35,380
 So, he's going to be at 2.15.

1720
01:52:35,580 --> 01:52:39,120
 And then we'll talk to Alex Scarborough coming up in the 3 o'clock hour.

1721
01:52:39,220 --> 01:52:39,820
 Bruce Marshall.

1722
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:41,920
 Todd109.com.

1723
01:52:43,220 --> 01:52:44,620
 Todd109.com.

1724
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:45,680
 I always appreciate you guys.

1725
01:52:45,740 --> 01:52:47,020
 Hope you guys have a great rest of your day.

1726
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:47,680
 You too, buddy.

1727
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:48,740
 Thank you so much, Ryan.

1728
01:52:49,060 --> 01:52:49,580
 Buckle up.

1729
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:53,000
 Baby, you know, a lot of folks say, well, you look at this Venables defense.

1730
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:54,520
 If you're Alabama, you're one-dimensional.

1731
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:55,220
 Wah, wah, wah.

1732
01:52:55,860 --> 01:52:56,800
 What happened the last time?

1733
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:58,440
 Alabama basically had the same running game.

1734
01:52:58,440 --> 01:53:00,300
 They still ran up over 400 yards.

1735
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:03,820
 The question is, hang on to the ball and don't throw interceptions and fumble, baby.

1736
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:05,920
 Well, that's going to be the key, Harold.

1737
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:07,320
 They had three turnovers.

1738
01:53:07,460 --> 01:53:09,800
 And again, the same situation with Georgia.

1739
01:53:10,420 --> 01:53:13,200
 And Alabama got outplayed and outcoached against Georgia.

1740
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:18,280
 But when you're scoring, when you've got 25-yard drives, it's a lot easier.

1741
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:22,740
 One week, one night away, Alabama and Oklahoma.

1742
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:23,980
 Where in the world would they be then?

1743
01:53:24,060 --> 01:53:26,380
 And where in the world would this topic be tomorrow?

1744
01:53:26,700 --> 01:53:27,220
 Stay tuned.

1745
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:28,220
 We'll check that out.

1746
01:53:28,480 --> 01:53:31,780
 But in the meantime, on behalf of BB, Greg, James Blair, the entire crew here.

1747
01:53:32,180 --> 01:53:34,040
 Harold Black, thank you so much for your time today.

1748
01:53:34,100 --> 01:53:34,760
 Let's do it again tomorrow.

1749
01:53:34,900 --> 01:53:36,240
 Noon to two for the Boom Up Buck Show.

1750
01:53:36,300 --> 01:53:38,260
 Back here on Sports Radio 93.9.

1751
01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:38,820
 the score.