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 Now, get ready to roll Shoals, Decatur, Athens and all of Northwest Alabama and Southern Tennessee. It's time for the Valley's Exclusive FM Sports Voice.

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 The Boomo Bugg Show. New Exclusive Inside Track to the Tide, Tigers, Tennessee and the rest of the SEC. Now your host, Harold Bugg on 93.9 The Score.

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 Good afternoon and welcome in to the Boomo Bugg Show. I'm Harold Bugg alongside Brett Beaird. Thank you so much for giving us free ride around the Tennessee Valley.

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 Brett Beaird, welcome in where Alabama fans are asking just one thing, one question to the college football playoff committee.

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 Does SOS stand for strength of schedule or does SOS stand for something else?

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 Good afternoon, welcome in and how are you?

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 Happy Wednesday to you and the listeners. We'll discuss the abomination, debacle, whatever word you want to use,

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 that we saw last night from the college football playoff committee, including Hunter Jurczyk,

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 the chairman of the committee and the athletic director at Arkansas,

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 in depth throughout the show with our guests, including this segment.

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 Kevish White, veteran coach at Bob Jones announced he is retiring and stepping down,

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 which will set in motion a lot of dominoes for coaching hires in North Alabama.

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 Speaking of Alabama, number 11 Alabama basketball plays in Chicago tonight against number 8 Illinois,

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 8 p.m. on FS1.

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 You can hear that game on 93-9 to score starting at 7 and Auburn plays basketball against Jackson State tonight.

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 And also, this weekend's last home game at Brawley for UNA football, the best.

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 Cody Gross is going to be joining us.

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 We're sitting here and flashing back with some of his greatest memories of the place where he created a lot of good memories over the years.

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 That's a whole lot to look forward to.

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 But, B.B., last night, we talked about this yesterday, and by now, everybody knows the narrative.

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 Alabama was fourth.

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 They got beat by number 11 Oklahoma by two on their home field.

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 They slipped from fourth to tenth.

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 I don't think anybody was terribly shocked by the AP and the coaches' poll.

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 Those guys are, let's face it, they're made up of basically assistance to the coaches.

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 I don't know how many head coaches actually do the voting.

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 And then when you start getting into the sports writers, you start getting into a lot of bias.

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 You can say what you want, but the human element is there.

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 The committee is supposed to sit here and be objective.

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 And the one thing that they've been preaching, preaching, preaching this year,

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 they caught a lot of flack over the years.

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 Basically, they'd look at the records, the win-loss records at this point,

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 and not really look at the strength of schedule.

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 Last night, I think a lot of folks were sitting here, and there was no doubt who was going to be one, two, and three.

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 And at the bottom of the top 25, does it really matter?

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 I think in that 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12 range, that's where the drama was.

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 Where do you start in breaking it down in having a two-loss Notre Dame team

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 And this two-loss Notre Dame team, if you look at what they have been preaching,

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 that is the committee, the strength of schedule, how do they justify this, Brett Beaird?

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 Well, I have never seen the backlash on social media for a regular season ranking.

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 It's what I've seen for the last 18, 12 to 18 hours.

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 Harold, these are some conclusions that I've come up with pertaining to this committee.

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 The committee doesn't want five SEC teams in the playoff.

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 The strength of schedule, which should be the most important factor in selecting the top 12 teams,

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 was ignored once again.

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 Greg Sankey railed about this in May at Sandestin

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 Bad losses take more precedence than good quality wins.

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 Why do SEC teams want to play nine conference games,

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 which would give one to two good teams another loss

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 and be another reason for the committee to keep one or two SEC teams out

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 of the college football playoff when they expand to 16.

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 which was so ridiculous, but we'll get into BYU.

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 But, B.B., let's face it.

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 First of all, Notre Dame's a good team.

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 Alabama's a good team.

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 Taking nothing away from Notre Dame, that's not the issue.

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 That's not the conversation here.

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 Notre Dame, they're not ever going to say this.

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 and that was a good win.

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 But at the bottom line of this, once again, Alabama has beaten four ranked teams.

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 Now, Notre Dame, on the other hand, I just mentioned Alabama had four ranked wins.

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 Let's go in and order out and get this fancy food brought into the room.

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 We get a lot of love from ESPN.

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 Did they ever address that clearly?

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 They're like, they're good politicians.

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 Did they ever answer it in just plain old country boy logic, BB?

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 Harold, he got off in the weeds so much about the run game, which the last time I looked

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 And it just, and Chris Vianney, a, uh, this is not about Alabama, but Chris Vianney from

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 Even though the Nittany lines fell off the map and Vianney said, this makes no sense.

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 Maybe I've said this before.

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 A lot of fans get upset because their teams don't play a brand every weekend.

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 If you want to win a national championship and you want to fight this system, all this

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 They won four consecutive games against ranked teams in the SEC for the first time in history.

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 But Harold, go play two lesser opponents in November and don't play in the conference game.

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 Basically, what the committee wants to do is pee on your leg and call it rain and then can't

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 I've been there and done that.

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 Bottom line is SBB.

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 Whether Alabama is 10, 9, 8, whatever, their fate is still in their own hands.

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 If they got to win there, then they're in the playoffs.

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 So regardless of that, they still, the honest is on them to win, to get in.

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 That's not the issue.

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 The issue here is real simple.

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 I'm telling you right now, they're not making the playoffs.

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 What they basically have done is give another d*** some wiggle room.

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 They get a mulligan here in November.

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 Well, they were nine and Alabama's 10.

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 They both lost and they go in.

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 And so I got a feeling right now that the committee not exactly going to get a lot of Christmas

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 presents from Alabama fans.

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 Coming up, a man who gave a lot of presents to UNA fans over the years.

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 The one, the only, Cody Gross on deck.

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 The Score.

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 Now, back with Boomo Bugg on 93.9 The Score.

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 The Score.

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 Welcome back in, BBI.

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 I just got to believe when you saw the news way back when,

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 when the last game for UNA to play at Brawley Stadium was basically getting out there,

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 there's only one name, a handful of names, but right there near the top of the list

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 was one man who now calls Athens-Alabama home.

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 Would you agree?

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 I agree with that entirely.

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 Former UNA great Cody Gross, now head football coach at Athens High in the huddle with us.

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 Cody, welcome in.

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 How are you?

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 I'm doing good.

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 Appreciate y'all having me.

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 Hey, Cody.

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 Man, we appreciate you taking time out.

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 Cody, first of all, this is going to be one of those that I think a lot of folks,

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 it's almost enough to make some grown men cry this weekend.

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 When you go back and you look at all the great memories that UNA football has had over the years at Brawley,

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 and this is it for UNA to play there.

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 Cody, where do you start in breaking down your memories of Brawley Stadium?

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 Ooh, that's tough.

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 I remember the first time I went, I was in elementary school, and I sat on the visitor's side and watched UNA and Jack State play.

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 Original Goodloe from Leeton was playing for Jack State.

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 I remember that.

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 And then my wife, Karen, she's a year older than I am, and she was a lionette her freshman year while I was a senior in high school.

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 So I went to all the games, not to watch football, but to watch Karen.

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 And then to be able to play there for four years, and then was able to coach there two different times for a total of seven seasons.

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 So I spent 11 seasons as a player or coach there.

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 A lot of great memories, but without question, the best one is the first national championship, 1993 against IUP.

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 That was by far the one that comes to mind first, just the way that game went.

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 You know, we were down 10 with 10 minutes left, and then we were up 10 with three minutes left, and then it was tied with 40 seconds left.

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 And then, you know, we go down and score, and able to do that with 10 seconds.

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 And just, you know, that's storybook stuff.

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 Something as a little kid, you get out in your yard, and you imagine, you know, late in the game, winning drive to win a championship.

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 And then you get to actually do it, and you get to do it in your home stadium in the same county that you grew up in.

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 It doesn't get much more special than that.

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 Cody, I was actually there that day.

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 You talk about kids, even old men.

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 I've seen a lot of football over the years, and I still maintain that was the best game I've ever seen as far as drama because, number one, everything was on the line.

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 And like you mentioned, basically it came down literally to whoever had the ball last.

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 And it was a Hollywood script.

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 You know, sometimes when you're young like that, you can't put it in perspective.

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 But now when you have a little time on the clock, you look back, and that just has to make it even more special for you and your teammates.

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 No question.

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 You know, I had a phone call yesterday from Tyrone Rush in California that's flying in for the game and wanted to make sure that I was coming and wanted to see me.

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 And, you know, just that, you know, it ain't like we see each other much.

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 But there he is all the way out in California, and, you know, can't wait to reunite with everybody.

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 And, yeah, you look back on it, you know, as a kid going through it, I mean, I was 19 years old, man, and just like, we didn't know what we were doing.

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 You know, it was just the whole town got caught up in everything, and everybody was so excited.

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 And, you know, it was the first time we'd made, you know, done the things that we did.

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 And, you know, to build up, to play that championship game there, you know,

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 you think back to Grady Liles and the vision that he had and the work that he did to bring all that to the Shoals area.

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 I mean, you know, Grady's a guy that, you know, I think a lot of people nowadays don't even talk about.

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 I'm going to try not to get emotional thinking about it, but Grady meant so much to Florence and to the Shoals.

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 Yes.

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 And you think about him and Jeff Hodges and all those that did so much to bring that there.

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 And then we were the lucky ones that, once we became number one in the country after beating Portland State out there in 1993,

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 and we were able to be the top seed in every year and every playoff game was at home.

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 I mean, you play three years, you play 12 playoff games, and every one of them is at your home stadium.

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 That's a pretty good advantage.

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 Yep.

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 Yep.

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 Cody, it still amazes me.

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 The 93, 94, and 95 teams, their combined record were 41-1.

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 But in that decade, from 90 to 99, there were 25 All-Americans, a Harlan Hill Trophy winner, one member of the College Football Hall of Fame,

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 five NFL draft picks, eight NFL free agent signees, four members of the Division II team of the quarter century,

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 22 players and four coaches who've been inducted in the UNA Athletic Hall of Fame.

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 And you know this better than anybody else, the coaches, players, even the guys on the staff, et cetera.

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 That was just an incredible decade of talent at UNA.

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 No question.

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 You know, and it was obviously a different age.

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 You know, you're coming right out of the Prop 48 deal.

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 So, you know, a lot of the players that we got were because they couldn't qualify at a higher level academically.

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 And we got them, and the coaching staff did a great job of getting them there and basically red-shirting them

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 where they could have gone to junior college or something like that and gone to a bigger school.

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 We were able to get those guys.

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 And then, you know, you think about now with NIL and all that mess.

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 My goodness.

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 We'll talk about it.

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 Last year at the reunion, I was standing back there in the end zone with our teammates, and we were talking about that.

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 You know, and I was like, hey, you realize, I mean, you know, I'm stating the obvious, but what we did will never happen again.

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 Never.

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 There's nobody staying, especially at the lower level.

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 I mean, like, the bigger schools are coming down and getting them.

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 And I said, if this transfer portal in NIL would have been around when we played, all you guys would have been somewhere making a lot of money,

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 and I'd have been over here with guys like me trying to win a football game.

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 And that's kind of where that thing would have been.

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 But, you know, Coach Wallace and even the staff before I played, not even the guys that I played for,

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 there were coaches like Ike Fowler and Glenn Davis and other coaches that were on the staff before I came that recruited a lot of us

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 and a lot of those guys that were able to get that talent there.

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 And then those coaches continued to recruit it, you know, and obviously Coach Wallace was, he just Coach Wallace, you know,

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 but we had great talent, we had great coaches, and we had great, really did have great character on those teams.

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 And, you know, just like you just named all that stuff, I didn't realize all those numbers, but it's really mind-boggling.

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 Cody, talk to us about Bobby.

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 Obviously, he personified what one man can do, given the opportunity, and take all your talent and hard work and put it all in the blender.

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 Talk to us about Coach Bobby Wallace and what he's meant to you and A.

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 I don't think he got long enough.

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 That's right.

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 And even what he's meant to me.

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 You know, my high school football coach, Ronnie Ritter, came by to see me this morning, and actually, as you guys called us,

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 I got to take this.

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 He just walked out the door.

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 You know, Ronnie Ritter coming to Rochester, Alabama, changed my life.

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 He came in my senior year, and if he don't come, I'm not at UNA.

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 You know, you're about the Lord orchestrating things in your life.

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 It just worked out.

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 UNA needed to go to the triple option.

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 You know, they just had to go to the triple option at the same time, and Coach Ritter installed it.

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 So, all that stuff worked together.

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 But Coach Wallace, you know, being able to play for him and then go back and work under him, I got to see both sides of that.

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 And we got to find out a lot of things coaching for him that I didn't realize as a player.

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 But I think the bottom line, and, you know, the big thing, his big word is intangibles.

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 You know, he only talked about three things that, three ways you win football games.

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 One, you got good players.

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 That's why we recruit.

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 Two, you got to have sound coaching.

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 And that's why, you know, and that's just putting guys in position to make plays and then not put them in bad positions.

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 And then the third one is intangibles.

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 He said those are things you can't measure.

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 You know, unselfishness, player-to-player relationship, player-to-coach relationship, all those things.

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 And he said most people focus on the players and the coaching, and they neglect the intangibles.

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 He said the intangibles is where you win.

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 And that was really his focus.

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 And one thing I learned from him was you surround yourself with good people and you let them work.

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 You know, when he was able to hire Bill Hyde and Willie Slater in 1992 to coordinate each side of the ball.

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 And he let those guys work.

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 And I found out as a coach that he was a lot more hands-on than I thought he was as a player because he knew what was going on.

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 But he trusted those guys and allowed them to go work, and they wanted to work for him.

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 And then the players wanted to play for him.

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 And he genuinely cares about people.

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 It's not a fake thing.

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 It's genuine.

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 You know, he showed up at a football game here at Athens about three years ago and didn't tell me he was coming.

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 And didn't stay until the end of the game.

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 And the only way I know that he was here is my wife got up to go to the restroom and went a different way than she normally goes.

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 And was walking by and heard Karen.

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 And she turns, and it was Coach Wallace.

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 And she got a picture made with him because she said that I wouldn't believe that he was there.

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 And it's like, you know what I'm saying?

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 Why didn't he call and tell me?

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 You know, and it was like he didn't want to bother me.

449
00:29:32,580 --> 00:29:34,000
 But she said, what are you doing here?

450
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,200
 And he said, well, Robert, his son Robert, said, Robert and I have been talking about when we see one of Cody's games.

451
00:29:38,340 --> 00:29:39,520
 So we just came.

452
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,640
 I mean, just, and every time he sees me, every time we talk, he'll ask how my dad's doing.

453
00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:48,900
 How's Karen, how's Karen, how the boys?

454
00:29:49,540 --> 00:29:53,060
 And it's not one of those where, you know, you meet somebody, you see somebody and go, hey, how's it going?

455
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,440
 You know, it's not like just a greeting.

456
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,540
 It's like he genuinely does care.

457
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,400
 And as a player, you knew that.

458
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,560
 And it made you want to bust your tail for him.

459
00:30:03,940 --> 00:30:07,360
 Let me finish with your season at Athens.

460
00:30:07,820 --> 00:30:14,180
 We follow you and talk about the team every week with Caleb Suggs of the Decatur Daily and some other guys.

461
00:30:14,940 --> 00:30:16,740
 Got off to a little bit of a slow start.

462
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,740
 I know you lost second game to Buckhorn.

463
00:30:19,740 --> 00:30:30,240
 You finished 6-5, but you won the last three regular season games and faced a good Fort Payne team who has got one of the best kickers I think I've ever heard of.

464
00:30:30,740 --> 00:30:35,620
 You got behind that game and then came back to make it 38-23.

465
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,880
 Aiden Lovell, Jackson Unger, two of your dudes who had a very good season.

466
00:30:41,620 --> 00:30:43,480
 Summarize the year for us at Athens.

467
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,660
 Well, you kind of did it there.

468
00:30:45,660 --> 00:30:48,660
 You know, we started out not so good.

469
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:55,020
 We really had a tough loss there early and really did some uncharacteristic things.

470
00:30:55,300 --> 00:31:00,760
 I don't think we handled adversity real well early, and that's kind of something that we've taken pride in being able to do.

471
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,820
 And we got it turned around and really proud of this bunch.

472
00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:05,640
 I told them that.

473
00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:09,140
 I'm just really, really proud of how they came together and they stuck together.

474
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 Because, you know, in today's world especially, when things start going not your way, it's easy to quit.

475
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 And it's easy to give in.

476
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 It's easy to blame.

477
00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:21,140
 And it's always kind of been that way.

478
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,380
 But I think in today's world, it's so much easier.

479
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 And, you know, hey, I'm not going to be a part of that.

480
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,840
 But these guys really came together, really believed.

481
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,040
 You know, I had some great leadership out of not just seniors, but guys.

482
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:40,740
 You mentioned Aiden Lovell as a junior who was a heck of a football player and did everything that we asked him to do.

483
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:47,060
 Whether he's a super talented kid, but there were times that he didn't get the ball much because we had trouble getting it to him.

484
00:31:47,180 --> 00:31:47,700
 So what did he do?

485
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,700
 He got in there and he blocked.

486
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,980
 We need to play him at running back.

487
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 We need to snap it to him.

488
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,220
 We need to play him at tight end.

489
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,640
 We need to play him at receiver, wherever.

490
00:31:55,340 --> 00:31:56,120
 He's willing to do it.

491
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,840
 Jackson Unger moved over from safety.

492
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,020
 He's a great safety.

493
00:31:59,020 --> 00:32:00,280
 He played corner last year.

494
00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:01,400
 Great safety.

495
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,500
 State champion wrestler.

496
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,600
 We're playing safety and receiver.

497
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,560
 Hasn't become our quarterback week three.

498
00:32:06,860 --> 00:32:08,140
 And he just comes over and does it.

499
00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:10,160
 Whatever we asked him to do, he just did it.

500
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,140
 So we had a lot of unselfish guys on our team.

501
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:23,720
 But just the fact that they stuck together and they believed, it was really rewarding to see that.

502
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,420
 You know, it didn't go the way we wanted it to go.

503
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,900
 And that's kind of the way things are in life sometimes.

504
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:31,820
 But you just want to get up one more time and persevere.

505
00:32:32,220 --> 00:32:34,720
 So I think a lot of lessons were learned by all of us,

506
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 including me, during the season.

507
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,100
 And hopefully it's going to benefit us going forward.

508
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,840
 But just really proud of my staff for the way they continued working hard and coaching

509
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,980
 and where our players stuck together and found a way to get better.

510
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:54,900
 Cody, this has been fun for a fellow who started following me when you were that teenager back in the day.

511
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:57,360
 You helped put Brawley on the national map.

512
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,120
 And I got a feeling you owe a lot to that lionette back in the day.

513
00:33:01,220 --> 00:33:03,180
 You're still reaping benefits of that, are you not?

514
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,000
 Oh, there's no question.

515
00:33:05,260 --> 00:33:05,900
 No question.

516
00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:09,400
 That's the best thing that ever happened to me.

517
00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:13,560
 Cody, man, listen, it's always a pleasure to look up with you.

518
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:19,880
 Thank you so much for taking time out and help us put things in perspective about a very emotional weekend there at Brawley.

519
00:33:19,980 --> 00:33:21,380
 Thanks again so much for your time.

520
00:33:21,980 --> 00:33:24,020
 Well, I thank you all so much for thinking of me.

521
00:33:24,340 --> 00:33:27,820
 You know, I don't sit around and think about this stuff.

522
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:28,660
 I really don't.

523
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:34,440
 But I always like it when somebody asks me because it makes me think about it and being able to talk about it is pretty special.

524
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,820
 So I appreciate you guys as always.

525
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,020
 Right back at you, Cody.

526
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 Cody Gross, former national championship quarterback at UNA and now the top man at Athens High football, Cody Gross, the one and the only.

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 Coming up, what a week in Tuscaloosa.

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585
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586
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650
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 How was the night?

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 Yeah, with all the reaction from the vote from the committee.

652
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 Honestly, I want to say in a most professional way that I don't think I've ever heard a dumber

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 It was incredible.

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 You know what, Rodney?

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 And my mom was a very wise woman.

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 Yeah.

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 Yes.

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 I think the one thing, you know, the one thing that really kind of bothers you is it just

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 seems like this committee kind of just works on a whim.

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 They just go with whatever suits their kind of vision of what they're aiming to do.

669
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 And, you know, I wonder this, and I do wonder, and again, it's all going to play out, so I'm

670
00:41:19,180 --> 00:41:21,820
 not really, you know, worked up about it.

671
00:41:21,940 --> 00:41:29,800
 But I wonder if Notre Dame had four wins against top 25 teams, and Alabama had one, and Alabama

672
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 had lost their first two games of the season.

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 Yep.

674
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 The way they did.

675
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 I just really wonder if last night they would have said, well, you know, Notre Dame has

676
00:41:39,020 --> 00:41:40,580
 four top 25 wins.

677
00:41:40,740 --> 00:41:41,240
 That's right.

678
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:41,800
 Alabama has one.

679
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,500
 So, anyway, it is what it is.

680
00:41:46,460 --> 00:41:47,780
 You know, but I'll say this, too.

681
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 With that said, Alabama put themselves in this position by losing the game.

682
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 That's right.

683
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,440
 To be fair.

684
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 They had no business losing.

685
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,760
 I mean, look, I watched the game.

686
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:58,480
 I was there.

687
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,220
 Brett was there.

688
00:41:59,700 --> 00:42:05,100
 But, listen, I mean, from what I saw, Alabama's 14 points better than Oklahoma.

689
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:05,660
 Yes.

690
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:07,300
 I mean, almost any day.

691
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,160
 You just don't turn the ball over.

692
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,720
 And I give Oklahoma credit.

693
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:16,720
 I mean, I would say their defense and their special teams really out-physicaled Alabama's

694
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:18,280
 offense and Alabama's special teams.

695
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,880
 I mean, they out-hit them.

696
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,060
 They knocked the ball off of Alabama's players multiple times.

697
00:42:24,380 --> 00:42:25,880
 And I'm not just talking about the fumbles.

698
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:31,000
 I'm talking about the ones that were knocked loose and Alabama recovered, got back on, the

699
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:31,980
 play was called down.

700
00:42:32,420 --> 00:42:34,620
 They out-hit Alabama in those areas.

701
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:34,960
 Okay.

702
00:42:35,060 --> 00:42:37,960
 Now, defensively, I thought Alabama played fantastic.

703
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,820
 And I do understand that Alabama had 400-and-something yards offensively.

704
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,460
 That's not really what I'm saying.

705
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:49,180
 I'm just talking about from a physical standpoint that those groups, those two Oklahoma groups,

706
00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:50,460
 were very intense.

707
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:51,300
 Yeah.

708
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:53,560
 Absolutely.

709
00:42:54,120 --> 00:43:00,340
 Ronnie, two guys who caught my eye was the continued development of Red Morgan.

710
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:08,560
 Four tackles, one for a loss, forced a fumble, three receptions against him for eight yards.

711
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,660
 And where in the world would Alabama be right now without Josh Quavis?

712
00:43:14,260 --> 00:43:16,720
 Six receptions for 80 yards.

713
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:23,240
 Quite a few people told me, well, they should have thrown to him about eight more times.

714
00:43:23,860 --> 00:43:26,420
 Well, I don't know one more time they should have thrown to him.

715
00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:30,560
 I think I would have called a play for him on that fourth and whatever it was, six at the end.

716
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,680
 And, you know, he was getting open.

717
00:43:33,780 --> 00:43:35,820
 The middle of the field was open consistently.

718
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,360
 You know, he had a couple on the sideline, too.

719
00:43:38,980 --> 00:43:40,320
 But Red Morgan, you're right.

720
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,440
 I mean, he's been really good.

721
00:43:42,820 --> 00:43:44,700
 I mean, Red's brought some juice.

722
00:43:45,060 --> 00:43:49,840
 And I will say that Red has certainly brought some juice on that side of the ball with his tackling,

723
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,480
 physical tackling.

724
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,560
 And, you know, he plays the ball well.

725
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,080
 So, I like what number 16's done.

726
00:43:58,220 --> 00:44:00,500
 Rodney Oren, a huddle with us, tighterinsider.com.

727
00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:03,760
 And, Rodney, I appreciate you bringing it up because it's easy to get emotional.

728
00:44:03,980 --> 00:44:07,860
 Right now, Alabama, whether they're 10, 9, or 8, they still have to control their own destiny.

729
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,980
 The question is, what did they learn from that game over the weekend?

730
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,160
 And here's what is guaranteed for this Alabama team.

731
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:22,580
 Unless they win a national championship, they will have lost at least three ballgames again this season.

732
00:44:22,580 --> 00:44:26,840
 That's guaranteed anything short of winning a national championship.

733
00:44:27,220 --> 00:44:28,600
 Your thoughts about that.

734
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,420
 It's a different era.

735
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,020
 But they can sit here and talk a good game.

736
00:44:33,420 --> 00:44:36,380
 But what lessons did they learn from this weekend going forward?

737
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:43,040
 Especially, maybe not so much this weekend, but a week from Saturday night down to a place called Auburn.

738
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:50,460
 Well, I mean, you know, again, I just think that you've got to protect the football.

739
00:44:50,740 --> 00:44:52,720
 They came in plus 10 in turnovers.

740
00:44:53,260 --> 00:44:54,840
 Oklahoma was minus 5.

741
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,120
 That was an area that we really thought Alabama had an edge there.

742
00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:03,460
 Because Matier has a propensity to turn the ball over.

743
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,820
 Alabama did not force him to turn the ball over.

744
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:14,520
 So, you know, I think going down to Auburn is going to be really interesting because, first of all, it's DeBoer's first trip down there.

745
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:24,720
 And I'm not 100% sure that, I don't even know what they call it, their battle of the Big Apple or what do they call it?

746
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:29,600
 But the ball up there in Washington when they play the Washington State, whatever they call it.

747
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,040
 Yeah, it's the Apple Bowl.

748
00:45:31,460 --> 00:45:31,680
 The Apple Cup.

749
00:45:32,220 --> 00:45:32,940
 Yeah, okay.

750
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,380
 So, I don't think there's a lot of comparison there.

751
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,680
 But it's going to be something.

752
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:47,000
 But I'll tell you another thing, too, Harold and Britt, and this is kind of one of my concerns looking at that game,

753
00:45:47,660 --> 00:45:51,360
 is that I think Ty Simpson has got to get that mind straight.

754
00:45:51,700 --> 00:45:55,080
 He's got to, you know, it's going to be a tough environment.

755
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,440
 Now, he handled Athens beautifully, no doubt.

756
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:04,520
 Okay, but Ty doesn't have, is not playing with the confidence that he played, was playing with back then.

757
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:06,020
 He's lost some confidence.

758
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,940
 He's lost some of the command that he had.

759
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:14,720
 I could see it when the way he was holding the ball, that he was uncertain with what he wanted to do with it at times.

760
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,080
 And there were times there were receivers open, and he continued to hold the ball.

761
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,600
 So, it's going to be a real challenge going down there for DeBoer and for, you know, Ty Simpson, I think.

762
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:35,640
 Ronny, let me ask you about the never-ending debate, conversation, angst about the improving the Alabama running game.

763
00:46:35,740 --> 00:46:43,160
 And I thought Daniel Hill gave Alabama, use your words, some juice, 15 rushes, 60 yards.

764
00:46:43,420 --> 00:46:52,600
 The 28-yard scamper to the right side was the side, welcome for me, goes to right guard, Michael Carroll at right tackle.

765
00:46:53,420 --> 00:46:56,160
 And I will give this staff credit, Ronny.

766
00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:03,640
 They have continued to try to run the ball instead of just completely giving up and throwing it on every down.

767
00:47:04,420 --> 00:47:08,540
 And Daniel Hill, again, Kale Miller, he looked very good early in the season.

768
00:47:08,740 --> 00:47:11,220
 I know he's had two health situations.

769
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,280
 I don't know if that's slowed him down, whatever the case may be.

770
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:19,120
 But your thoughts on Alabama trying to continue to work to improve?

771
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,880
 If they could run for 110 yards, it would help them.

772
00:47:23,340 --> 00:47:25,160
 Well, yeah, you're right.

773
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:26,940
 And I'll say this, too.

774
00:47:27,220 --> 00:47:30,540
 You go back and look at kind of the history of their running game,

775
00:47:30,700 --> 00:47:35,580
 even though they had a 1,200-and-something-yard rusher the year they played for the national championship.

776
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,840
 But do you know that in that season, they only averaged 118 yards a game rushing.

777
00:47:40,740 --> 00:47:42,820
 So they've never really –

778
00:47:42,820 --> 00:47:49,460
 As a matter of fact, I think last year was one of their best statistical years running the football under DeBoer.

779
00:47:49,660 --> 00:47:54,500
 I'm talking about his offense, whether it was at Indiana or Fresno State or wherever he's been,

780
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,040
 Washington, and now here at Alabama.

781
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:02,260
 So, yeah, I do think all of those things you said are true.

782
00:48:02,380 --> 00:48:04,400
 I do think that they've continued to try to run the ball,

783
00:48:04,460 --> 00:48:07,380
 and I do think that they've continued to try to improve their run game.

784
00:48:07,460 --> 00:48:09,740
 And I do hear all the things about, you know,

785
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:15,320
 they just don't have the guys that they need on the offensive line right now, you know,

786
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,620
 and that they need to get their kind of guys that move really well.

787
00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:22,940
 That's who they – that's the kind of guys they want.

788
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:23,860
 I hear those things.

789
00:48:23,860 --> 00:48:26,660
 And, of course, I think that they do lack a big-time back.

790
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,700
 So I understand all that.

791
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:34,640
 But I also would say this, too, is that it's a quarterback-centric offense to me.

792
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,840
 I mean, that's what it is.

793
00:48:37,220 --> 00:48:38,620
 That's what they want to do.

794
00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:44,160
 And, you know, that's kind of their style.

795
00:48:44,460 --> 00:48:45,760
 I mean, they want their quarterback.

796
00:48:45,940 --> 00:48:48,020
 And I know a lot of people say, well, there's a lot on Ty.

797
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,140
 Well, there's a lot on Michael Penix when he was at Washington.

798
00:48:51,540 --> 00:48:53,200
 There's a lot on their quarterbacks.

799
00:48:53,580 --> 00:48:54,580
 That's what they do.

800
00:48:55,100 --> 00:49:00,020
 They expect their quarterbacks to be ready and prepared to make throws, make plays,

801
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,440
 you know, throw it 40 times a game.

802
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,460
 What, Ty, throw it 42?

803
00:49:04,740 --> 00:49:10,180
 So, you know, you've got to be ready to make those plays if you're the quarterback in this system.

804
00:49:11,020 --> 00:49:16,980
 And it's kind of hard for some people to kind of grasp that because, you know,

805
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,420
 Alabama's not really – you know, there hasn't been that style of offense.

806
00:49:21,220 --> 00:49:21,620
 Mm-hmm.

807
00:49:22,180 --> 00:49:23,640
 Ronnie, obviously we know the script.

808
00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:25,240
 You take on a team like Eastern Illinois.

809
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:26,900
 You get out big.

810
00:49:26,980 --> 00:49:29,660
 You empty the bench and all that stuff.

811
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,520
 Alabama's still got some stuff to work on.

812
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:36,720
 And your thoughts about coming into this weekend's game, I don't think the outcome is any question.

813
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,380
 But just the approach and how much will we see of Keelan Russell and crew?

814
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:42,420
 Yeah.

815
00:49:42,940 --> 00:49:44,480
 Well, you know, it's a good question.

816
00:49:44,620 --> 00:49:50,640
 I think – you know, I really think it'd be nice to kind of get into a little bit of a rhythm.

817
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,880
 And, again, I understand the competition's not going to be what you've been playing, obviously.

818
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,180
 But, you know, get into a little bit of a rhythm.

819
00:49:58,300 --> 00:49:59,440
 Let Ty make some throws.

820
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,900
 Maybe, hopefully, you get out to a quick lead in the first quarter.

821
00:50:03,140 --> 00:50:07,720
 And, honestly, I would play those young quarterbacks as much as I could in this game.

822
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:07,960
 Yeah.

823
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,080
 Number one, to protect Ty a little bit.

824
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,020
 You know, you don't want some kind of freak injury.

825
00:50:12,740 --> 00:50:16,280
 But I also think that, you know what, you better play him in case, number one,

826
00:50:16,300 --> 00:50:20,540
 you do have an injury at some point if you get into the playoffs or whatever it is.

827
00:50:21,180 --> 00:50:24,600
 You know, what if you go down to Auburn and you need one of those guys?

828
00:50:24,620 --> 00:50:24,920
 Right, right.

829
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:31,440
 So, I do think that you need to play Keelan Russell and Austin Mack as much as you possibly can in this game.

830
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,600
 But, you know, we were asked kind of the same question last night, Harold, on Titer & Sutter TV.

831
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,340
 And, you know, they've rotated a lot of players all year, whether it's been in the secondary,

832
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,880
 whether it's been on the offensive line, across the board.

833
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,140
 They have rotated a lot of players in.

834
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,120
 But now, maybe some of the other guys that haven't played as much.

835
00:50:50,620 --> 00:50:55,740
 Yeah, I mean, I would expect that they'll probably get some, you know, some opportunities in this game, too.

836
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:02,040
 And, Rodney, I think that's one of the reasons why this defense has continued to trend up.

837
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,180
 They've played so many players.

838
00:51:04,180 --> 00:51:05,580
 That's the beginning to play.

839
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:11,220
 Even Kelby Collins in limited action had an impact in that game.

840
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,480
 It just, it really does help.

841
00:51:13,620 --> 00:51:16,620
 And particularly with, it was Saturday being senior day.

842
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,220
 And when those guys are lined up with their families, a lot of fans are going to realize,

843
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,080
 hmm, Alabama's losing some good players.

844
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,360
 Now, I know they've got some coming in.

845
00:51:27,020 --> 00:51:32,620
 And particularly with early signing day coming up here now and, what, two weeks from today.

846
00:51:33,300 --> 00:51:37,000
 But it really has helped to continue to develop these guys.

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 Rodney, where can we get online?

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860
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861
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865
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 Survive it somehow.

866
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 And thank you so much for your time today, buddy.

867
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 Okay, guys.

868
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 Prosecutors wish that the death penalty was an option in this case against Hudson.

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1012
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:35,800
 Welcome back in.

1013
01:00:35,860 --> 01:00:36,940
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1014
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,560
 I'm Harold Bugg alongside Brett Beaird.

1015
01:00:38,660 --> 01:00:41,640
 Thank you so much for giving us free ride around the Tennessee Valley.

1016
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:48,120
 Maybe we can call in the head basketball coach at UNA, or we just as easily could call him the traveling man.

1017
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,500
 I got a feeling either one would fit for Coach Tony Pujo.

1018
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:55,060
 Coach, welcome in and welcome back from Fifth Valley in Clemson.

1019
01:00:55,100 --> 01:00:55,620
 How are you?

1020
01:00:56,260 --> 01:00:57,220
 Doing great, guys.

1021
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:58,340
 Great to be on the show with you.

1022
01:00:58,340 --> 01:00:58,640
 You too.

1023
01:00:58,940 --> 01:01:00,100
 Man, we appreciate that.

1024
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,020
 Talk to us about your trip to Clemson.

1025
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,300
 This is a team that's pretty doggone good.

1026
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,480
 Currently 27th in the Ken Palm ratings.

1027
01:01:07,580 --> 01:01:09,280
 That's pretty good at the end of the day.

1028
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:16,580
 Obviously, the score didn't go the way you wanted it to, but when it comes to experience, I would imagine.

1029
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,920
 We just talked with Cody Gross about the great Bobby Wallace back in the day, UNA head football coach.

1030
01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:23,420
 He talked a lot about the intangibles.

1031
01:01:23,980 --> 01:01:25,540
 I don't care if it's football or basketball.

1032
01:01:25,540 --> 01:01:30,080
 You cannot replace the intangible experience you gained on the road this weekend, I would imagine, Coach.

1033
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:35,480
 A hundred percent, and I thought our guys showed a lot of grit, especially in the second half.

1034
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,560
 They jumped on us early.

1035
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:47,300
 We had, I don't know if you knew, but Cornelius had gone down with a lower leg injury and played the majority of the game.

1036
01:01:47,900 --> 01:01:49,920
 But I thought our guys responded really well.

1037
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:56,500
 In fact, outscoring Clemson in the second half, which was something that, again, we're not into moral victories,

1038
01:01:56,500 --> 01:02:05,780
 but when you play a team like that, that is just so good on both ends of the floor to get 10 steals and turn them over 12 times,

1039
01:02:05,780 --> 01:02:09,740
 just showed the resiliency of our guys and how they wanted to compete out there.

1040
01:02:10,620 --> 01:02:16,560
 Coach, I think if we're wise at this point in the season, every coach is trying to figure out the right mix,

1041
01:02:16,780 --> 01:02:18,500
 trying to find out the pluses, the minuses.

1042
01:02:18,780 --> 01:02:25,420
 They always say you play these games to find out, if nothing else, what you need to do to get better going forward.

1043
01:02:25,540 --> 01:02:30,760
 Where do you start in answering the questions or the lessons learned about your team from the trip to Clemson?

1044
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:37,080
 And for that matter, let's face it, you've already had a trip to a place called Starkville and the SEC opponent, Mississippi State.

1045
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,100
 What have you learned about your team so far?

1046
01:02:39,660 --> 01:02:45,280
 Yeah, what I've learned about my team is that there's some positions that are solidified and there's some positions that are still up in the air.

1047
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:54,280
 And, you know, right now I'm looking for guys that are going to go ahead and jump in there and just take those minutes, right?

1048
01:02:55,140 --> 01:02:58,700
 You know, we've got some guys that have definitely solidified themselves.

1049
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:06,420
 And, you know, you've got Neil, you know, Cornelius Williams, obviously, in my opinion, not just one of the best centers in the A-Sun.

1050
01:03:06,500 --> 01:03:10,220
 He's probably one of the best centers in the country, just with his numbers and stuff.

1051
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,760
 And, you know, I just think he's solidified himself.

1052
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,380
 Dante Bacchus has done a good job of solidifying himself as well.

1053
01:03:17,020 --> 01:03:21,420
 Kevin Dekovicic, I think he's really done a heck of a job this year.

1054
01:03:21,420 --> 01:03:25,180
 His job from last year is really, really tremendous.

1055
01:03:25,620 --> 01:03:29,020
 So very proud of him and very, very, very pleased.

1056
01:03:29,420 --> 01:03:32,100
 And, again, there's other guys that have solidified themselves.

1057
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:37,720
 But now we've got some guys that, you know, need to step into roles and step into minutes.

1058
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,360
 And we're still trying to figure that part out.

1059
01:03:40,620 --> 01:03:42,060
 Like you said, it's early in the year.

1060
01:03:42,140 --> 01:03:42,920
 It's five games in.

1061
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,680
 We've still got another six to go in the non-conference.

1062
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,620
 And then we've got to be ready to rock and roll come January 1st.

1063
01:03:51,420 --> 01:03:55,240
 Tony, I always look for the little things in games.

1064
01:03:55,620 --> 01:04:01,540
 And Clemson came into this game averaging the fewest turnovers in the NCAA, which is six.

1065
01:04:02,220 --> 01:04:06,560
 Your team forced 12, including 10 steals.

1066
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,720
 And junior transfer, Cadell Bode, had four steals.

1067
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:11,880
 Tony, that impresses me.

1068
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,080
 And you only had eight.

1069
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:19,460
 Tony, that impresses me to double the number of turnovers for Clemson.

1070
01:04:19,940 --> 01:04:27,940
 Yeah, and if you look at it, you know, I think it had a lot to do with our guys back being pressed up against the wall.

1071
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,960
 Once Cornelius went down, we knew we were going to have to grind this one out.

1072
01:04:32,060 --> 01:04:33,560
 We were going to have to be gritty as heck.

1073
01:04:33,740 --> 01:04:35,100
 And I thought our guys did that.

1074
01:04:35,180 --> 01:04:36,460
 They competed really, really well.

1075
01:04:36,580 --> 01:04:39,260
 You know, they didn't back down from the challenge.

1076
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:44,500
 And I think that spoke volumes of our players to respond the way they responded.

1077
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:52,620
 Dallas Howell was, I think he was shooting a three with about five and a half minutes left and could have cut the lead down to about 10.

1078
01:04:52,780 --> 01:04:54,920
 And I was ready to call a timeout.

1079
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,000
 Unfortunately, he missed it.

1080
01:04:56,380 --> 01:04:58,480
 But that's how far back they just kept fighting.

1081
01:04:58,660 --> 01:04:59,940
 They never just relented.

1082
01:05:00,660 --> 01:05:10,880
 And I thought, you know, whenever you play a team, Brad Burnell's team, that, listen, guys, on both sides of the floor, they are solid defensively.

1083
01:05:11,220 --> 01:05:14,440
 And they are one of the most efficient offenses you're going to be going up against.

1084
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:25,100
 Whenever you can turn a team over 12 times like them and get 10 steals, I think it speaks volumes for the way that our guys competed in that game.

1085
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,340
 Talk to us just about the intangibles.

1086
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:33,000
 Because to me, turnovers, we saw it in football over the weekend in the Alabama-Oklahoma game.

1087
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:34,880
 I don't bring that up to dwell on it here.

1088
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,640
 It's the principle I'm trying to make here.

1089
01:05:37,860 --> 01:05:39,760
 That, to me, is a great equalizer.

1090
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:44,220
 If you can get that's an extra position, it has the potential of at least a six-point swing.

1091
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:49,060
 If they go down, hit the three, and you steal it, and you get the three, that's a six-point swing.

1092
01:05:49,180 --> 01:05:57,800
 Talk to us about how much in practice do you see here and focus on just, again, back to the intangibles of trying to get the turnover and get some easy gets.

1093
01:05:58,580 --> 01:06:00,360
 Yeah, and I'll tell you this.

1094
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:07,920
 One of the things that we stress, and last year, a lot of our offensive success came in two categories that really stood out for our team.

1095
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,360
 Number one was second-chance opportunities.

1096
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:14,280
 The way Cornelius rebounded the ball, the way Tate Fields rebounded the ball.

1097
01:06:14,380 --> 01:06:17,100
 That gave us second opportunities, right?

1098
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,620
 So that increases your efficiency from an offensive standpoint.

1099
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:27,520
 But from another area is obviously valuing the basketball and not turning the ball over.

1100
01:06:27,860 --> 01:06:32,400
 But we don't just focus on the turnovers or live turnovers or whatever.

1101
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,300
 We're not just focusing on the turnovers.

1102
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,440
 We're also focusing on shot quality.

1103
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,080
 Because if you take a bad shot, to me, that's like a turnover.

1104
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:47,540
 If the team's not ready for you to take that shot and you take a bad one, it kind of throws everything out of whack.

1105
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:52,480
 And then all of a sudden now you have to now transition from your offensive end to defense.

1106
01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:58,600
 And if guys aren't ready for you to shoot it or you take a bad shot, it really will mess up your team defense.

1107
01:06:58,700 --> 01:07:06,100
 And so we spend a lot of time with our guys talking to them about valuing the basketball, keeping it simple.

1108
01:07:06,340 --> 01:07:07,780
 We use a baseball term.

1109
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:09,080
 We want to hit singles.

1110
01:07:09,300 --> 01:07:11,300
 We don't need to be swinging from the fences every time.

1111
01:07:11,620 --> 01:07:13,280
 We just want to hit singles all the time.

1112
01:07:13,700 --> 01:07:16,740
 And then we want to make sure that our shot quality is at its best.

1113
01:07:16,980 --> 01:07:24,980
 If we can get a shot off from three with 20 seconds and it's contested, well, we can take that same shot with four seconds on the shot clock.

1114
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,500
 And it's a better shot quality because you've got to get the shot up.

1115
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:29,960
 There's only four seconds on the shot clock.

1116
01:07:30,060 --> 01:07:33,800
 So we're always looking for the best shot available in the half court.

1117
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:42,620
 Let me ask you about the East Tennessee State game that broke your 16-game winning streak at home, which is tremendous.

1118
01:07:43,500 --> 01:07:49,580
 There was, and I know you've gotten over this, it happens in so many games during the course of the year.

1119
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:58,800
 There was a no call, contested basket, two seconds to go, et cetera, that a lot of people thought was a foul.

1120
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:02,300
 In fact, several people have mentioned that to me.

1121
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:03,560
 That was unfortunate.

1122
01:08:04,060 --> 01:08:11,160
 Dallas Howell hit his first three threes, had 19 points.

1123
01:08:11,300 --> 01:08:14,300
 Dante Bancas had 19 and six rebounds.

1124
01:08:14,660 --> 01:08:18,100
 Tony, summarize the East Tennessee game for us.

1125
01:08:18,940 --> 01:08:26,480
 No, I thought, you know, I thought our guys came out in the first half and really did a tremendous job of sharing the ball offensively,

1126
01:08:26,620 --> 01:08:30,160
 playing within the system, and understanding scouting reports.

1127
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:40,440
 So whenever you can hold ETSU to 30 points and a half, and you score over 46, like that just shows that the guys were really locked in.

1128
01:08:40,860 --> 01:08:42,600
 But, you know, I've got to give credit to ETSU.

1129
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:46,440
 They really muddied the game up, and I thought our guys did not.

1130
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:50,020
 And, again, guys, this to me, have I moved on from this?

1131
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:50,680
 100%.

1132
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:51,640
 We move on, right?

1133
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,780
 In fact, we couldn't dwell on it too much because 48 hours later we were playing club.

1134
01:08:55,780 --> 01:08:56,040
 Yeah.

1135
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:05,120
 So my thing was, this is something now that we've got to carry with us because when they muddied the game up, we didn't do a good job.

1136
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:12,460
 And I'm talking about not just players, our staff, we need to do a better job of making sure that we manage the game better, right?

1137
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:21,040
 And I've got to give them credit for just mucking the game up, and our guys, we just did a poor job of turning the ball over.

1138
01:09:21,580 --> 01:09:23,960
 It should have never gotten down to that last possession.

1139
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,240
 As far as the call is concerned, guys, you know how I feel about that.

1140
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,340
 I'm not, I'm never going to make a comment about them.

1141
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:31,680
 You know, they're human beings.

1142
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,340
 Can they miss calls 100%?

1143
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:44,620
 But one thing I do know is, since I've been at the Division I level, referees are told by their commissioners that the last four minutes they can't get anything wrong.

1144
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,240
 They've got to be on point.

1145
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:54,720
 Now, if that was a call that was missed, well, I'm sure they'll evaluate it and they'll move forward.

1146
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,760
 But as far as we're concerned, that game's over.

1147
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,940
 We did not lose that game because there wasn't a call at the end of the game.

1148
01:10:02,700 --> 01:10:05,740
 And that game, we just didn't manage it the right way.

1149
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:08,740
 That's a mature way of looking at it, Coach.

1150
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:09,560
 You can't look back.

1151
01:10:09,620 --> 01:10:12,400
 You take the lessons, but not the ongoing problems for it.

1152
01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:14,080
 That's a wise way of addressing it.

1153
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,260
 Coach, obviously, you stay there to keep the bags packed.

1154
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:23,620
 Anyone who knows college basketball, UTC, the University of Tennessee, or as they basically know, Chattanooga,

1155
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,460
 they've had a pretty good program over the years.

1156
01:10:26,460 --> 01:10:31,100
 Your thoughts about this weekend's matchup there by the Aquarium in Chattanooga?

1157
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,780
 Yeah, I mean, the league didn't do me any favors.

1158
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:34,920
 They have us playing.

1159
01:10:35,300 --> 01:10:41,640
 They picked us playing the number three SOCON team preseason poll and number one.

1160
01:10:42,020 --> 01:10:43,900
 So, and number one on the road.

1161
01:10:44,220 --> 01:10:49,220
 So, you know, for us, you know, we're excited because it's another opportunity to get on the floor.

1162
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,680
 It's another opportunity for our team to grow.

1163
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:53,100
 And I'll tell you one thing.

1164
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:55,500
 And we definitely put our guys through the gauntlet this year.

1165
01:10:56,020 --> 01:10:58,740
 Our next six games, five of them are on the road.

1166
01:10:59,460 --> 01:11:04,760
 And we're going to definitely be road tested once January 1 rolls around.

1167
01:11:04,980 --> 01:11:11,820
 So, I want our guys to go into this game knowing that the most important thing that matters is the growth of our team.

1168
01:11:13,140 --> 01:11:14,160
 Growth of our team.

1169
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,740
 We don't focus too much on the outcome.

1170
01:11:17,900 --> 01:11:21,280
 We focus on what we've got to take care of in the moment.

1171
01:11:21,780 --> 01:11:25,760
 So, I want our guys to be present and to just compete with integrity.

1172
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:26,500
 That's it.

1173
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,040
 That's all I'm asking them to do on Saturday.

1174
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,820
 And, Tony, Chattanooga is one and three.

1175
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:34,880
 But look a little closer.

1176
01:11:35,220 --> 01:11:40,140
 They've lost to UNLV, who Alabama plays next week, and St. Mary's.

1177
01:11:41,060 --> 01:11:43,340
 Those are two very quality teams.

1178
01:11:44,180 --> 01:11:44,380
 Yeah.

1179
01:11:44,440 --> 01:11:50,820
 And then they went on the road to Florida Gulf Coast, which, again, guys, you know our league is one of the –

1180
01:11:50,820 --> 01:11:53,400
 I said this the first year we were in it.

1181
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:57,720
 It's a league that every year – it's such a well-coached league,

1182
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,700
 and it's a league that has so many different styles of play,

1183
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:05,460
 which makes it extremely challenging when you're playing Thursday, Saturday games.

1184
01:12:06,140 --> 01:12:07,480
 So, it's just a rough league.

1185
01:12:07,740 --> 01:12:13,100
 Like, you know, you go to some leagues and pretty much everybody's kind of like the same style, right?

1186
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:17,660
 This league has got from a team that will take 30 seconds to take a shot

1187
01:12:17,660 --> 01:12:21,300
 to a team that is going to press you for 94 feet for 40 minutes a game.

1188
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,400
 And the funny thing about it is those two teams that I just mentioned,

1189
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:29,760
 and the 30-second shot and the team that presses, they're all in one city.

1190
01:12:29,860 --> 01:12:33,100
 So, when you travel there, you're playing one of those teams on Thursday,

1191
01:12:33,500 --> 01:12:35,260
 and then you're playing the other one on Saturday.

1192
01:12:35,620 --> 01:12:38,400
 So, that's the hard part of this league.

1193
01:12:39,260 --> 01:12:43,960
 And I can tell you this, Chattanooga is a team last year obviously going to the NIT

1194
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,720
 and having the success they did in the NIT.

1195
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,140
 It just speaks volumes for their coach.

1196
01:12:48,220 --> 01:12:49,580
 It speaks volumes for the program.

1197
01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:52,900
 And I've got a long history with them.

1198
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:56,580
 I was at Appalachian State for two years, and we were in the SOCON together.

1199
01:12:56,820 --> 01:13:01,920
 So, I can tell you right now, I know what we're walking into, and it's going to be challenging.

1200
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:03,280
 Absolutely.

1201
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:09,160
 Well, you're going to see the dividends, though, of playing Chattanooga, Mississippi State,

1202
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,660
 and Clemson down the road.

1203
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:12,960
 Listen, we're going to let you go.

1204
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,840
 We always enjoy the conversation.

1205
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,280
 Have a great, safe week, and bring back a W from Chattanooga.

1206
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:21,260
 I hear you, brother.

1207
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:23,400
 Sounds great.

1208
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,820
 UNA men's basketball coach, Tony Pujo.

1209
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:32,240
 BB, before we jump off here, we would be remiss if we didn't say about the passing of truly

1210
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,720
 a legend at Waterloo and Loretto.

1211
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,680
 Coach Toby Don passing away earlier this week.

1212
01:13:39,300 --> 01:13:43,460
 All the success in the world as a coach at Waterloo and, of course, at Loretto.

1213
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:48,320
 Now, I was a math teacher and passing away at the much too early age of 64.

1214
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:52,680
 I know a lot of folks are basically in shock at the passing of Toby Don.

1215
01:13:53,140 --> 01:13:58,420
 Yeah, I saw Steve Harrison's Facebook post and a lot of other ones.

1216
01:13:58,780 --> 01:14:01,920
 David Weathers certainly knew him.

1217
01:14:02,440 --> 01:14:09,660
 Harold, he was a coach, was a teacher, was a Christian, loved God, and you're right.

1218
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,360
 He's a big loss for a lot of people in this community.

1219
01:14:12,740 --> 01:14:15,200
 Influenced a lot of folks the right way.

1220
01:14:15,480 --> 01:14:19,100
 Coming up, he knows Lane Kempf and about as well as anybody anywhere.

1221
01:14:19,220 --> 01:14:20,620
 Brett Norsworthy on deck.

1222
01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:21,300
 Stay with us.

1223
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1224
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1225
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1226
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1227
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1228
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1229
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1230
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1231
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1235
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1236
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1238
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1268
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1270
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1271
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1272
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1290
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1292
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1293
01:17:45,260 --> 01:17:46,040
 I'm Roger Hoover.

1294
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:52,480
 Here are thoughts from Alabama women's basketball head coach Christy Curry as Alabama prepares for Samford on Wednesday night.

1295
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:58,660
 Yeah, looking at the Samford Bulldogs tonight's opponent, where do they present some challenges and some of the talented personnel they have?

1296
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:00,260
 Well, they're just well coached.

1297
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:04,300
 I mean, Matt does a great job of running a lot of different set plays.

1298
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:06,780
 They're going to really challenge and go at our weaknesses.

1299
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:12,720
 So it will challenge each player defensively, you know, to guard their yard and understand.

1300
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,560
 Otherwise, they're going to make you look bad.

1301
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:20,940
 So, I mean, I think it'll be a great opportunity for us to understand he's going to do a really good job with that.

1302
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,060
 And then they run multiple ball screen actions.

1303
01:18:23,060 --> 01:18:30,300
 And so our communication, loud, early, and often, and how we guard the ball screen with great effort and energy are going to be really critical to our success.

1304
01:18:30,620 --> 01:18:31,580
 I'll have more in a moment.

1305
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 The Score.

1312
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 Now, back with Boomo Bugg on 93.9 The Score.

1313
01:19:32,700 --> 01:19:33,700
 Welcome back again.

1314
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:43,960
 I can promise you that if you want to know the latest going on in the Bluff City, a.k.a. Memphis, Tennessee, or with Ole Miss football, there's only one place to go, and that's Brett Norsworthy.

1315
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:49,260
 He's hosting Sports Time Afternoons 3 to 6 on Sports 56 in Memphis.

1316
01:19:49,580 --> 01:19:57,240
 He's also there busy as co-host of the Ole Miss football pre-game, halftime, post-game, and the latest on Lane.

1317
01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,300
 Brett Norsworthy, welcome in.

1318
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:00,040
 How are you?

1319
01:20:00,860 --> 01:20:01,760
 I'm doing well, Harold.

1320
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:02,740
 Glad to be with y'all.

1321
01:20:03,220 --> 01:20:05,080
 We appreciate you taking time out.

1322
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:11,040
 Brett, I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say, has anyone asked you about Lane Kiffin lately?

1323
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:25,280
 No, all anybody's talking about is Lacey's 200-yard performance last week, and Trinidad Chambliss going for 300, and a 10-1 Ole Miss team that's 5 in AP, and 6 in the college football playoff rankings.

1324
01:20:25,460 --> 01:20:26,660
 Anything else going on?

1325
01:20:28,740 --> 01:20:29,900
 We're over here in Alabama.

1326
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:34,000
 We don't know, Brett, but I tell you what, one thing we do know.

1327
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:48,020
 Obviously, we don't know about the future, but it's a big question out there, obviously, in Oxford and college football, because let's face it, when you're a big name like Lane, once that domino starts, then they start falling around it.

1328
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,960
 What is fact and what is fiction there, Brett, based on what you know?

1329
01:20:52,740 --> 01:20:58,160
 Well, the facts are, and a lot of the things I just said in four out of the last five years, the double-digit winning teams,

1330
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:03,520
 and then that will make people come after your head coach, head coach, in the springtime.

1331
01:21:03,620 --> 01:21:06,840
 Keith Carter had to fend off Texas A&M for Chris Beard.

1332
01:21:06,900 --> 01:21:11,780
 A year before that, Chris Beard turned down Arkansas before they hired John Califarian.

1333
01:21:11,780 --> 01:21:20,440
 Think about all the jobs, and I know Twitter's not a real place, but think about all the jobs that Twitter has associated Lane with.

1334
01:21:20,900 --> 01:21:22,600
 Well, he was at Tennessee.

1335
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:27,960
 He did turn down Arkansas to accept Ole Miss, so that's three out of the 16.

1336
01:21:29,460 --> 01:21:36,540
 I think Lane was very much wanting to be the Alabama coach, and there were people that wanted him to be the Alabama coach.

1337
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,240
 It got to an offer level, so that's four.

1338
01:21:39,340 --> 01:21:41,160
 We know Auburn offered, that's five.

1339
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:46,500
 We know LSU's interested right now, and they were interested when they hired Brian Kelly, so that's six.

1340
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:50,700
 We know A&M two years ago when they hired Mike Elko was interested.

1341
01:21:50,820 --> 01:21:51,460
 That's seven.

1342
01:21:51,980 --> 01:21:57,140
 We know right now Florida's interested, and we know Florida was interested when they hired Billy Napier.

1343
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:58,540
 What are we up to?

1344
01:21:58,660 --> 01:21:59,440
 Up to eight?

1345
01:21:59,820 --> 01:22:03,480
 Okay, so Vandy and Kentucky haven't called.

1346
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:04,020
 Wow.

1347
01:22:06,300 --> 01:22:07,500
 Or Slippery Rock.

1348
01:22:08,740 --> 01:22:10,580
 Talk to us about the job he's done there.

1349
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,860
 Obviously, his resume speaks for itself.

1350
01:22:12,980 --> 01:22:16,820
 It's one thing to win at a place where everything is in place.

1351
01:22:16,900 --> 01:22:18,380
 Let's just use Alabama as an example.

1352
01:22:18,500 --> 01:22:20,720
 They got a proud championship tradition.

1353
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:28,720
 They got all the resources a person could want, but when you come to Ole Miss, it's a different ballgame as far as resources and the past.

1354
01:22:29,460 --> 01:22:34,000
 I've always said the sign of a good coach is who can take the least and make the most.

1355
01:22:34,460 --> 01:22:36,380
 What has been his secret to the sauce there?

1356
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:38,920
 Harold, that is such a good point.

1357
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,020
 Let's remember what he took over.

1358
01:22:41,460 --> 01:22:44,420
 We lose Thanksgiving night on Elijah Moore hiking up his leg.

1359
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,720
 I don't know what would happen in overtime.

1360
01:22:47,340 --> 01:22:53,420
 We may have lost in overtime, but if we win, Matt Luke stays, and that was the year at the Egg Bowl.

1361
01:22:53,860 --> 01:22:59,720
 Not only did the losing coach get fired, but the winning coach got fired that year at the Egg Bowl.

1362
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:04,060
 But we were effectively out of the football business.

1363
01:23:04,060 --> 01:23:05,040
 It was over.

1364
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,400
 The NC investigation was making its soul.

1365
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,360
 The end of Hugh Freeze.

1366
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:16,600
 We were out of business, and Keith Carter, he threw deep and got Lane Kiffin.

1367
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,300
 So then we go into the 2020 season.

1368
01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:24,040
 There's everybody in the whole world dealing with COVID, the dumbest era in American history.

1369
01:23:24,260 --> 01:23:25,600
 We're all trying to deal with it.

1370
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,080
 We're sitting outside with masks on.

1371
01:23:28,140 --> 01:23:29,220
 That's how dumb we were.

1372
01:23:29,860 --> 01:23:33,300
 But we go through it, and we could see that year.

1373
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:37,200
 And I said it one time after one of our games, and I think it was even after a loss.

1374
01:23:37,660 --> 01:23:38,860
 I said, we got us a coach.

1375
01:23:39,340 --> 01:23:55,480
 And I knew we had a revolutionary-type coach and the transformation he had with Matt Corral, and then to see his personal transformation and to get into the sweet spot of his adult and coaching life.

1376
01:23:56,020 --> 01:23:59,020
 And now you see the benefits of it.

1377
01:23:59,020 --> 01:24:03,760
 I know the question, and my answer is I think he's going to stay.

1378
01:24:04,020 --> 01:24:05,320
 You know I want him to stay.

1379
01:24:05,900 --> 01:24:13,600
 But if he does not stay, I promise you I'll never say the first negative word about the man.

1380
01:24:13,900 --> 01:24:15,040
 He's been great to me.

1381
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:16,460
 He's been great to our crew.

1382
01:24:17,380 --> 01:24:18,260
 He's a friend.

1383
01:24:18,740 --> 01:24:23,780
 I love seeing where he is with his family, with his life, with his faith.

1384
01:24:24,460 --> 01:24:27,220
 Now, you know, next year, Florida's on the Ole Miss schedule.

1385
01:24:27,220 --> 01:24:30,220
 We go to Gamble, and next year, LSU comes to Oxford.

1386
01:24:30,780 --> 01:24:37,800
 I'm not going to be for him, but I will wish him well, and I will never, ever, ever say the first negative word about him.

1387
01:24:38,060 --> 01:24:42,940
 And I would have done that had he gone to Auburn even after a short tenure, but I don't think he's leaving.

1388
01:24:43,540 --> 01:24:47,500
 I know I'm being very hopeful about it, just like I was with Auburn.

1389
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:48,560
 I was right about Auburn.

1390
01:24:48,620 --> 01:24:49,860
 I think I'll be right now.

1391
01:24:50,340 --> 01:24:52,960
 I think how it plays out the rest of the week.

1392
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,420
 I hope how it plays out the rest of the week.

1393
01:24:55,560 --> 01:25:03,360
 I think sometimes Friday, one of the big dot-comers with all the Twitter followers, they'll see Ole Miss and Lane are getting close.

1394
01:25:03,660 --> 01:25:06,380
 Probably Chris Lowe, maybe Ross Dellinger.

1395
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:15,040
 And then I think it won't take over, but it'll certainly be reported and a part of game day on Saturday morning.

1396
01:25:15,140 --> 01:25:23,000
 And then I think next Monday, at some point, Lane tweaks a picture of a contract, and it says something like, hey, Keith, need your signature on this.

1397
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,180
 Let's go 1-0 this week, and all blondes look the same.

1398
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:28,760
 There you go.

1399
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,320
 Well, let me give you credit for this.

1400
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:39,200
 Just two or three years ago when we had this conversation, you were one of the only people, everybody else was saying he's gone.

1401
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:48,520
 It's just a matter of time to get out of Ole Miss, and you stuck your guns and said, no, I think for several reasons he is going to stay.

1402
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:57,660
 Now, some of our Florida contacts have said he's got an offer on the table for $13.5 million for six years.

1403
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:06,620
 $31 million is guaranteed, and I understand a lot of us don't make that in a year, and it'd be hard to turn that down.

1404
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:07,680
 But I'll give you credit.

1405
01:26:07,860 --> 01:26:13,840
 You said two or three years ago, one of the few he was going to stay, he loved Oxford.

1406
01:26:14,420 --> 01:26:16,580
 I think he's even more comfortable now.

1407
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,080
 I'll give you credit for that.

1408
01:26:18,660 --> 01:26:20,140
 Brother Brett, you're right.

1409
01:26:20,440 --> 01:26:23,600
 I think he stays this time, and it's not just hope.

1410
01:26:24,500 --> 01:26:26,360
 I've got some pretty good background.

1411
01:26:26,900 --> 01:26:27,920
 Is it from the horse's mouth?

1412
01:26:27,980 --> 01:26:28,840
 No, it is not.

1413
01:26:29,180 --> 01:26:30,460
 But I think he stays.

1414
01:26:31,460 --> 01:26:39,720
 And in these coaching searches, it just goes to show it is really hard to dislodge a guy because, yes, that is a lot of money.

1415
01:26:39,820 --> 01:26:42,160
 He's got that offer on the table from Florida.

1416
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:48,860
 But Ole Miss has met every financial thing, everything salary structure, everything assistant coach,

1417
01:26:49,340 --> 01:26:56,840
 everything outside of the house settlement that you need to build a team because we've still got to have the Grove Collective.

1418
01:26:57,060 --> 01:27:02,940
 And this has been the fundraising boon of all time for the Grove Collective.

1419
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:10,240
 I mean, it is rolling in because people are committed and know that he can win, and we see it this year.

1420
01:27:10,340 --> 01:27:14,800
 I think this year we're 10-1, and he really doesn't like this.

1421
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:19,760
 I mean, he would tell me before we start postgame, and he would tell me sternly.

1422
01:27:19,940 --> 01:27:23,080
 He'll look me square in the eye and go, give the players credit.

1423
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:24,760
 Don't make it all about me.

1424
01:27:25,020 --> 01:27:27,480
 And about 10 seconds into it, I'm making it all about him.

1425
01:27:27,860 --> 01:27:31,220
 And he'll give me that look of, give my players the credit.

1426
01:27:31,540 --> 01:27:34,100
 And he's big on that, and he's sincere about that.

1427
01:27:34,440 --> 01:27:38,460
 But I think he, by himself, was the difference in about three wins this year.

1428
01:27:38,500 --> 01:27:38,760
 I do.

1429
01:27:40,020 --> 01:27:42,380
 Talk to us about the intangibles, if you will, Brett.

1430
01:27:42,460 --> 01:27:47,320
 Obviously, anyone who's ever lived in Oxford knows it is one of the best-kept secrets out there.

1431
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:48,940
 It has been good for Lane.

1432
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:50,320
 Lane has been good for Oxford.

1433
01:27:50,440 --> 01:27:55,160
 And the other factor to me, his son and his kids play a big influence.

1434
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,080
 His son's a star quarterback there at the high school.

1435
01:27:58,260 --> 01:28:02,540
 Your thought's just about things outside of Lane and all that money.

1436
01:28:03,940 --> 01:28:09,180
 Yeah, and Harold, you know, and people that have been around and been to Oxford know, you know,

1437
01:28:09,180 --> 01:28:16,260
 the stereotypical generalizing of Mississippi and, you know, how a lot of Florida parents have talked about us

1438
01:28:16,260 --> 01:28:20,440
 and about Oxford and about Mississippi is really, really overboard.

1439
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:26,060
 But, you know, that's what we do when somebody's got something that you want.

1440
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:29,920
 But, I mean, it has really been deep and pretty ugly.

1441
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,760
 And, you know, I'm not going to try to reciprocate.

1442
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,740
 I'm not going to do that because I think Gainesville is a great place.

1443
01:28:35,940 --> 01:28:38,600
 And, heck, who wouldn't like living in Florida, so I'm not going to go there.

1444
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:39,780
 They just don't know.

1445
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:44,700
 And last weekend, there were a lot of Gator fans in town.

1446
01:28:44,820 --> 01:28:49,980
 It was the first time they had really been in town since 07, the year Tebow won the Heisman.

1447
01:28:50,340 --> 01:28:53,640
 We played them in 2020 in COVID, but nobody could go to the games.

1448
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:59,280
 And so it was 2007 to, you know, 2025, 18 years.

1449
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,360
 And we had really missed that charming bunch in that time.

1450
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:07,580
 Let me ask you about last night.

1451
01:29:07,660 --> 01:29:11,140
 As you can imagine, it has resonated in the state of Alabama.

1452
01:29:11,140 --> 01:29:21,280
 I don't know if I've seen a backlash ever about a regular season rankings when Alabama dropped from 4 to 10.

1453
01:29:21,540 --> 01:29:24,560
 Now, again, they should have won the football game.

1454
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,380
 I think they're better, but I give Oklahoma a lot of credit.

1455
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:36,300
 And Brent Venables, and also Notre Dame going ahead of Alabama, which is no shock to anybody in the South.

1456
01:29:36,820 --> 01:29:42,100
 Alabama with four wins, consecutive wins over top 25 teams.

1457
01:29:42,580 --> 01:29:44,700
 How many does Notre Dame have won?

1458
01:29:45,140 --> 01:29:53,060
 And we found out last night that rushing yardage plays a role in the criteria for the committee.

1459
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:56,180
 And I wish I could say that tongue-in-cheek.

1460
01:29:56,700 --> 01:29:58,160
 It was bad enough.

1461
01:29:58,260 --> 01:30:06,300
 And then Hunter Juracek gets on national TV and makes an absolute fool out of himself with some of his excuses and diatribe.

1462
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:10,760
 Your thoughts on the selection committee's performance last night?

1463
01:30:11,300 --> 01:30:13,940
 Well, it was just shockingly incompetent.

1464
01:30:13,940 --> 01:30:27,540
 And for Hunter Juracek to almost want to describe to us and lecture us what a good football team should or would look like is really rich, considering when has he seen what a good football team looks like.

1465
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:28,880
 He hired him.

1466
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:32,920
 Touché.

1467
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,080
 And then Bobby Petrino on the rebound tour.

1468
01:30:37,860 --> 01:30:42,240
 Yeah, you hire Evel Knievel after he's embarrassed at university like he did.

1469
01:30:43,220 --> 01:30:47,740
 And so we're being lectured to by Hunter Juracek.

1470
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:48,460
 Are you kidding?

1471
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:54,880
 And it was just rank incompetence on full display for the whole world to see.

1472
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:58,220
 I didn't think anything could top Ward Manuel from last year.

1473
01:30:58,400 --> 01:30:58,980
 I know.

1474
01:30:59,980 --> 01:31:06,680
 But I think, Hunter, your check went full of San Mateo false on the Richter scale and topped it.

1475
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:18,360
 And I have been told by some Arkansas people that they think he will be out after his tenure on the college football playoff committee because they didn't want to fire him during it and embarrass him.

1476
01:31:18,780 --> 01:31:20,900
 So he went out and embarrassed himself.

1477
01:31:22,440 --> 01:31:23,360
 He's a joke.

1478
01:31:23,480 --> 01:31:25,040
 Arkansas football is a joke.

1479
01:31:25,300 --> 01:31:26,180
 And it has been.

1480
01:31:26,180 --> 01:31:36,340
 And I love some of my Arkansas friends that just will not admit that Lane Kiffin took Ole Miss over the Arkansas offer.

1481
01:31:36,660 --> 01:31:39,800
 He had two offers on the table and he took Ole Miss.

1482
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:48,580
 And some of them for years try to say, look, now look, okay, y'all got Lane and we had to get, he had to go somewhere else.

1483
01:31:48,940 --> 01:31:50,680
 But Hunter backed away from him.

1484
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:52,160
 All right, let's say that's true.

1485
01:31:52,260 --> 01:31:58,780
 Let's say he got real close to hiring him and he backed away from him, but he backed away from him for Sam Pittman.

1486
01:31:59,060 --> 01:32:00,200
 Oh, my gosh.

1487
01:32:00,420 --> 01:32:01,480
 That didn't work out right.

1488
01:32:01,820 --> 01:32:03,140
 I don't know if I'd admit that.

1489
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:04,240
 I don't either.

1490
01:32:06,020 --> 01:32:06,460
 Unbelievable.

1491
01:32:07,340 --> 01:32:13,080
 That's another one of the reasons why we enjoy talking to Brett Norsworthy whenever we get the opportunity.

1492
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,660
 Well, it should be an interesting week.

1493
01:32:15,740 --> 01:32:22,320
 Always a pleasure to talk with you about the SEC, Ole Miss, Alabama, and any other topic that comes up.

1494
01:32:22,420 --> 01:32:24,380
 Have a great show today and a great week.

1495
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:25,780
 Let's do this again soon.

1496
01:32:26,220 --> 01:32:26,720
 Thank you, man.

1497
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:27,500
 And happy Thanksgiving.

1498
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:28,560
 Happy holiday season.

1499
01:32:28,740 --> 01:32:28,920
 Thank you.

1500
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:30,100
 Hey, thank you so much.

1501
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 The Score.

1583
01:37:07,460 --> 01:37:12,240
 Now, back with Boomo Bugg on 93.9 The Score.

1584
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:13,540
 Welcome back in.

1585
01:37:13,580 --> 01:37:14,640
 It is always a pleasure.

1586
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:16,960
 Throw us up the door and say hello to Drew DeArmond.

1587
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:20,040
 He's host, Talking Ball and Hustle with 97.7 FM The Zone.

1588
01:37:20,140 --> 01:37:21,460
 Drew, welcome in.

1589
01:37:21,900 --> 01:37:23,060
 How was your night?

1590
01:37:25,380 --> 01:37:27,740
 Obviously, Drew is still turning real from last night.

1591
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:28,880
 We'll get to him in just a second.

1592
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:32,780
 Drew's busy over there talking ball on Hustle's 97.7 FM The Zone.

1593
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:36,040
 In the meantime, baby, back to Brett Norris for these comments there.

1594
01:37:36,140 --> 01:37:39,560
 And Brett's not saying that Lane is staying 100%.

1595
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:46,280
 He's saying that based on his experience of being around Lane, being around sources that are impeccable,

1596
01:37:46,780 --> 01:37:49,920
 that's where, in his heart of hearts, that's where the wind's blowing right now.

1597
01:37:50,500 --> 01:37:57,020
 Well, I'm glad you got him on because he talks with him on a weekly basis.

1598
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:58,960
 He knows him very well.

1599
01:37:59,480 --> 01:38:01,400
 And again, I know all the scuttlebutt.

1600
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:12,240
 And Harold, quite frankly, it'd be hard for any human being to turn down $13.5 million a year for six years and $81 million guaranteed.

1601
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,220
 But he is in the catbird seed at Ole Miss.

1602
01:38:15,220 --> 01:38:18,220
 He has raised that program to a level.

1603
01:38:18,340 --> 01:38:30,560
 They haven't been since Johnny Vaught was there in the 1960s, and he may just simply want to, now that he's built the program, enjoy it for a few years now.

1604
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,520
 I still think this is 50-50.

1605
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:36,340
 Would it surprise me if he steps and goes to Florida?

1606
01:38:36,340 --> 01:38:37,420
 No, no, no, no.

1607
01:38:37,420 --> 01:38:41,160
 But it certainly wouldn't surprise me if he decides to stay in Oxford.

1608
01:38:41,580 --> 01:38:44,460
 Well, it's going to be interesting about the intangibles there.

1609
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:51,400
 We saw how things ended at Alabama, how they ended at Tennessee, how they ended at USC, how they ended with the Oakland Raiders and the NFL.

1610
01:38:52,220 --> 01:38:53,220
 We don't know where he is.

1611
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:57,780
 Whatever his decision, I just hope it's the best one for him and his family.

1612
01:38:58,180 --> 01:39:03,640
 In the meantime, a pleasure for us to welcome in Drew DeArmond, again, host of Talking Ball and Huntsville's 97.7 F in the Zone.

1613
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:04,380
 Drew, welcome in.

1614
01:39:04,420 --> 01:39:06,880
 We were just joking while you were waiting to get to the phone there.

1615
01:39:07,020 --> 01:39:08,540
 How was your night last night?

1616
01:39:09,820 --> 01:39:10,800
 It was interesting.

1617
01:39:11,480 --> 01:39:17,760
 Certainly, I didn't get a chance to hear Hunter Urechek make a fool of himself.

1618
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:19,300
 Yes, yes.

1619
01:39:20,300 --> 01:39:27,480
 I started hearing some things via social media, but I was actually at Huntsville High's gymnasium.

1620
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:37,060
 They had their home opener last week against Section, and this was game four, their second home game,

1621
01:39:37,140 --> 01:39:41,300
 and they were playing a city clash against the Columbia Eagles.

1622
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:42,800
 We got out of there.

1623
01:39:43,060 --> 01:39:44,980
 The game wrapped up rather quickly.

1624
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:46,840
 We were done before 9 o'clock.

1625
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:55,020
 Of course, I knew the rankings show was going to come out, and of course, we've heard all the stuff about Mack Rhoades.

1626
01:39:55,620 --> 01:40:02,680
 Honestly, I did not even know that Hunter Urechek had been taken over as kind of the chair of the committee,

1627
01:40:02,900 --> 01:40:10,820
 and I still don't even understand it because he's lucky to have a job himself after the way he's botched Arkansas' football program.

1628
01:40:10,820 --> 01:40:19,680
 But just reading some of the quotes from him and listening to him today, and we basically made our show out of it on Talking Ball this morning.

1629
01:40:19,860 --> 01:40:27,120
 I mean, it's pretty amazing that, you know, the way – and I mean, again, some of those people on that committee I truly respect.

1630
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:32,240
 I mean, Ivan Mazel, I mean, he's part of the reason you get into the business if you're a media guy.

1631
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:38,640
 They have some other, you know, very well-respected people on that committee, you know, that should know football.

1632
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:46,280
 I'm just stunned that they would get into discussions about a team's resume and then worry more about losses than wins.

1633
01:40:46,940 --> 01:40:54,080
 I mean, I'm sorry, but Notre Dame has absolutely played nobody, and the only teams that they've played that they basically lost to,

1634
01:40:54,520 --> 01:41:00,460
 and Alabama's played as tough a schedule as there is in college football, and they lost the game by two,

1635
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:10,840
 and Juracek is more worried about them gaining rushing yards and how they lose, you know, and losing the game instead of actually beating said team.

1636
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:13,040
 So it really didn't make any sense to me.

1637
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:15,600
 But I will just say this in all contexts.

1638
01:41:16,100 --> 01:41:19,480
 The one thing Alabama does is they can control their own destiny.

1639
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:25,400
 If they win, this narrative will be completely changed, especially if they get to Atlanta.

1640
01:41:25,580 --> 01:41:28,160
 But if they win, they're the SEC champion as well.

1641
01:41:28,260 --> 01:41:33,420
 If they're fortunate enough to get there, if they can beat the Auburn Tigers, then they're not going to be denied.

1642
01:41:33,540 --> 01:41:38,060
 They're going to be in the dance and have a chance to make their run and make their bones.

1643
01:41:38,300 --> 01:41:45,480
 So the one thing that they do have is they have a chance to, you know, win their next two games against Eastern Illinois and then Auburn.

1644
01:41:45,480 --> 01:41:55,140
 And if you win those two, you're most assuredly in Atlanta and you'll be playing a high-quality opponent and you should have a chance to compete for an SEC title.

1645
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:57,980
 And that needs to be what their focus is right now.

1646
01:41:58,980 --> 01:42:03,660
 D2, also the focus is to regroup from a tough loss to Oklahoma.

1647
01:42:03,900 --> 01:42:08,140
 And we've, of course, talked it to death for the last three days.

1648
01:42:08,260 --> 01:42:09,520
 Everybody knows what happened.

1649
01:42:09,700 --> 01:42:15,560
 Alabama, 75-51 number of plays, 406-212.

1650
01:42:15,740 --> 01:42:16,960
 You just go on and on.

1651
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:20,560
 But you still lost the game because of three turnovers.

1652
01:42:20,740 --> 01:42:30,180
 And you've got to turn around, regroup, use this Eastern Illinois game to get back into rhythm.

1653
01:42:30,180 --> 01:42:46,820
 I think in particular on offense, I know a lot of the fans in media want to see certainly the young quarterbacks, a.k.a. Deer, a lot of the young kids that we got a glimpse of at Lomb and Rowe, but haven't seen them since.

1654
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:53,680
 And I also heard, I saw on a tweet from Clint Lamb, Parker Browsford was humbled.

1655
01:42:53,680 --> 01:43:01,140
 And I'd wondered, because he gave up a good bit of pressure as he normally doesn't, may miss the Eastern Illinois game.

1656
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:03,180
 Geno Vandenbark may play center.

1657
01:43:04,340 --> 01:43:11,080
 D2, your thoughts about Alabama regrouping and using this next game against a lesser opponent to move forward?

1658
01:43:12,420 --> 01:43:17,460
 Well, I mean, they need to regain some confidence, certainly offensively.

1659
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:21,440
 You know, I did think they made some strides against OU.

1660
01:43:21,440 --> 01:43:25,120
 I mean, they nearly doubled their yardage output.

1661
01:43:25,580 --> 01:43:28,340
 You know, I thought they ran the football well enough.

1662
01:43:29,060 --> 01:43:31,500
 They got Daniel Hill more heavily involved.

1663
01:43:31,620 --> 01:43:33,480
 I think that needs to continue this week.

1664
01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:38,540
 You know, they had a couple drops, but it was nothing outlandish.

1665
01:43:39,100 --> 01:43:42,240
 I mean, quite frankly, they just needed Ty to be sharper.

1666
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:46,700
 And in the last month, he has struggled with his accuracy some.

1667
01:43:46,700 --> 01:43:55,460
 But when it's mattered in situational football, you know, when they needed a drive or two to win a game, Ty had come through every time.

1668
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:57,760
 And this is the one time that he did not.

1669
01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:05,800
 Part of that, you just credit Brent Venables in Oklahoma for coming up and being able to kind of bend, but don't break, and then hold them off.

1670
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:12,240
 But another underlying issue is, you know, I thought the special teams was the catalyst toward them winning against LSU.

1671
01:44:12,460 --> 01:44:15,180
 But it was an unmitigated disaster last week.

1672
01:44:15,780 --> 01:44:18,920
 The turnover by Williams led to the touchdown.

1673
01:44:19,180 --> 01:44:20,320
 The only one OU got.

1674
01:44:20,940 --> 01:44:29,120
 You know, they had a kick blocked at the end of, you know, at the half, which is a 36-yarder, which has got to be made in those situations.

1675
01:44:29,740 --> 01:44:31,320
 You've got to make that kick.

1676
01:44:31,540 --> 01:44:37,960
 I mean, you know, they gave up a 42-yard punt return when they had the guy kind of coughing, cornered.

1677
01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:39,700
 You've got to make that tackle.

1678
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:49,680
 So, there's some things they definitely have to work on, you know, against Eastern Illinois to get ready for what's going to be a raucous environment, and as always is in Auburn.

1679
01:44:49,820 --> 01:44:52,460
 So, they need to come out, take care of business.

1680
01:44:52,560 --> 01:45:01,220
 They need to continue building on what they've done defensively, which is, of course, the one thing they didn't do against OU is force turnovers.

1681
01:45:01,220 --> 01:45:04,740
 But they certainly nearly had a couple pick-sixes.

1682
01:45:04,940 --> 01:45:08,620
 So, you need to continue to force TOs coming up.

1683
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:11,560
 You need to continue to put stops together.

1684
01:45:11,940 --> 01:45:18,260
 And then just to play as a unit and play with a lot of toughness and intensity, because you're going to have to do that in the Iron Bowl.

1685
01:45:18,380 --> 01:45:19,600
 There's no question about it.

1686
01:45:19,660 --> 01:45:24,740
 So, but again, I just think it's all about taking care of business, staying healthy.

1687
01:45:24,980 --> 01:45:26,160
 We'll see about Brailsford.

1688
01:45:26,260 --> 01:45:29,220
 Certainly, he's key to Alabama's success and the pivot.

1689
01:45:29,460 --> 01:45:35,200
 Maybe they do hold him out and get a guy like – and that's why you signed a guy like Geno Vandermark.

1690
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:37,620
 He can play both guards in the center.

1691
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:40,980
 I know they asked him about Joseph Fianata as well.

1692
01:45:41,100 --> 01:45:48,980
 He's a kid from Florida that they recruited that I think they believe is a Brailsford-type prospect at the center's position.

1693
01:45:49,500 --> 01:45:52,340
 Maybe you'll see some of him as well in this game.

1694
01:45:52,340 --> 01:45:57,180
 So, certainly you might – and I know that A.K. Deer has a cult following.

1695
01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:04,340
 You know, if he gains 15 yards on one carry, it'll probably set off a social media bomb.

1696
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:09,280
 We'll see, but hopefully they'll build on the running game.

1697
01:46:09,700 --> 01:46:21,380
 They'll get Daniel Hill further involved and then move on systematically to Auburn, which is going to take your best effort to win and earn your way to Atlanta, Georgia.

1698
01:46:21,580 --> 01:46:29,260
 So, it's all about just taking care of business and controlling what you can control, and I'm sure that's going to be the message from Alabama this week.

1699
01:46:29,260 --> 01:46:38,440
 And maybe we might even see Clay Roussau get back on the field for the first time in over a month because I know he seems to be very close to getting back.

1700
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:43,480
 And I think you can play him together on the field with the emerging Yonse Pierre.

1701
01:46:43,780 --> 01:46:48,980
 So, it'll be interesting to see what we see on senior day, Saturday afternoon inside Friday.

1702
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:53,460
 The intangibles there is maturity and leadership going to be vital.

1703
01:46:53,620 --> 01:46:58,180
 On the other side of the coin, Alabama the prohibited favorite at one time.

1704
01:46:58,260 --> 01:47:00,920
 I think it's now down to five and a half of the Iron Bowl.

1705
01:47:01,100 --> 01:47:03,840
 I know it's the game after this one, but let's be honest about it.

1706
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:15,300
 Your thoughts about the line and looking at it through Auburn's eyes, their strategy is, from all indications, rest Ashton Daniels this weekend against Mercer, a pretty good doggone good team.

1707
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:19,020
 I don't think there's any sense to be alarmed unless they just stomped their toe big time.

1708
01:47:19,020 --> 01:47:28,540
 But your thoughts about the strategy of Daniels sitting out this weekend and then being fresh and also eligible to come back next year for Alabama and the season?

1709
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:32,660
 Well, I mean, yeah, he's going to try to come back for Auburn, I'm sure.

1710
01:47:32,860 --> 01:47:40,000
 I mean, he has a year of eligibility remaining after spending the majority of his career at Stanford.

1711
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:44,900
 And, you know, it's interesting because he didn't play until the last couple of weeks.

1712
01:47:45,660 --> 01:47:48,420
 And, you know, and there's that four-game rule.

1713
01:47:48,620 --> 01:47:52,300
 So, you know, he would be eligible to come back for the Iron Bowl.

1714
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:55,220
 It's going to be interesting to see who starts on Saturday.

1715
01:47:55,800 --> 01:48:03,480
 My gut would tell me it would be Deuce Knight, and they might take a look at him and then give him an opportunity.

1716
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:08,700
 And then they'd still play Jackson Arnold, certainly, and then bring Ashton Daniels back.

1717
01:48:08,700 --> 01:48:11,140
 And Daniels was tremendous against Vanderbilt.

1718
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:18,060
 I mean, you know, I never would have thought that kind of production would be possible against a really good team like Vandy.

1719
01:48:18,220 --> 01:48:19,280
 He certainly did that.

1720
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:28,280
 And certainly he's going to be someone that I think Alabama will be working on this week, trying to be prepared for him and his dual threat capabilities.

1721
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:29,960
 I mean, there's no doubt.

1722
01:48:30,440 --> 01:48:32,440
 Look, Auburn had a bye last week.

1723
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:34,680
 I think they probably spent it working on Alabama.

1724
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:39,660
 Certainly, Mercer averages 40-plus, and you have to respect them and take care of it.

1725
01:48:39,980 --> 01:48:44,580
 But I'm sure that the narrative of them working three weeks on Alabama is true.

1726
01:48:44,740 --> 01:48:48,700
 And Alabama, I'm sure, has spent a lot of this week working on Auburn also.

1727
01:48:49,260 --> 01:48:54,720
 You know, you should be able to take care of a 3-8 Eastern Illinois team, and you know what's at stake.

1728
01:48:54,980 --> 01:48:56,360
 Diamond Bowl is always important.

1729
01:48:56,460 --> 01:49:00,140
 It's never going to lose importance just because of the college football playoff.

1730
01:49:00,140 --> 01:49:13,180
 And now it's even more heightened because, again, Alabama wants to go to the college football playoff, and you want to go to Atlanta and represent the league and have a chance to win an SEC championship in Kalen DeVore's second season.

1731
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:15,780
 So, there's a ton riding on it.

1732
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:21,640
 You know, I think if they had beaten Oklahoma soundly, they might have been a 7- or 8-point favorite.

1733
01:49:21,980 --> 01:49:28,400
 It probably had about a 3-point swing in it with a field goal, but Alabama's still a 5-and-a-half-point favorite on the road.

1734
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,760
 And in this game, most of the time, the better team wins.

1735
01:49:32,140 --> 01:49:36,220
 I don't think we've had a team with a losing record win the game since 84.

1736
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:43,400
 And, you know, I was nine years old, and, you know, that was, of course, the wrong-way bow game.

1737
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:46,400
 So, Alabama won that one when Auburn was really good.

1738
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:51,480
 And Alabama, under Ray Perkins, it had a lot of close games, a very tough season.

1739
01:49:51,480 --> 01:49:57,880
 And then we nearly had it repeat itself in 97 in Jordan-Hare, but, you know, Alabama didn't finish that game.

1740
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:00,500
 So, you know, Alabama has to respect the opponent.

1741
01:50:00,740 --> 01:50:02,320
 Auburn's certainly very talented.

1742
01:50:02,740 --> 01:50:05,820
 They did not play up to their capabilities for much of the year.

1743
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:12,120
 But they certainly will play, I think, with a lot of energy inside Jordan-Hare in a couple of weeks.

1744
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:14,340
 And Alabama has to match that intensity.

1745
01:50:14,740 --> 01:50:17,880
 And then the better team has to rise to the occasion and win the game.

1746
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:20,880
 And I'm certainly – I think that is Alabama in this case.

1747
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:23,980
 But you still have to go out there and execute and prove it.

1748
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:27,060
 And certainly Alabama will have to do that in a couple of weeks.

1749
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:34,600
 D2, Nate Oates with another big game tonight against number eight, Illinois, in Chicago, Alabama.

1750
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:37,700
 And now number 11 after losing to Purdue.

1751
01:50:38,460 --> 01:50:42,780
 And I don't know how many times we've heard they were out-rebounded 52-28.

1752
01:50:42,780 --> 01:50:48,520
 Will Mr. Bristow, all 6'10 of him, will he play in this game?

1753
01:50:48,620 --> 01:50:55,020
 Will Davey and Hannah come back, injured a tailbone on a spiel against St. John's?

1754
01:50:55,560 --> 01:51:01,660
 And I'm guessing point of instance has been rebounding since that Purdue game.

1755
01:51:01,660 --> 01:51:09,640
 D2, your thoughts quickly on Alabama and Illinois tonight beginning at 8, 7 o'clock on 93-9 the score.

1756
01:51:10,500 --> 01:51:17,680
 Yeah, three-and-a-half point underdogs in the United Center in Chicago, you know, on a quote-unquote neutral floor.

1757
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:21,000
 But, you know, Jefferson's team is, you know, 4-0.

1758
01:51:21,260 --> 01:51:22,680
 They're really good.

1759
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:25,400
 It's kind of like a United Nations type deal.

1760
01:51:25,540 --> 01:51:28,620
 You've got the Avicic brothers now on the same team.

1761
01:51:28,740 --> 01:51:33,500
 And we know that Big D was at Arkansas and Kentucky the last two years.

1762
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:39,120
 His brother's a really good player, you know, their leading scorer, 21 points per game.

1763
01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:42,420
 And don't forget Stoyakovich, who came over from Cal.

1764
01:51:43,180 --> 01:51:47,000
 You know, Pedro Stoyakovich's son, he's averaging, you know, almost 14.

1765
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:50,140
 They're actually, they're a really high-scoring team, guys.

1766
01:51:50,220 --> 01:51:52,560
 They've got six guys averaging double figures.

1767
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:54,980
 And then Big D averages 8-and-a-half.

1768
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:58,540
 So they're going to be able to score, no doubt about it.

1769
01:51:58,660 --> 01:52:03,480
 It's probably going to be an up-tempo, high-scoring game, you know, for Alabama.

1770
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:05,180
 But, you know, Brett, you brought it up.

1771
01:52:05,420 --> 01:52:06,920
 They've got to rebound the basketball.

1772
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:11,240
 You know, Merkivik averages 12-and-a-half boards per game for them.

1773
01:52:11,620 --> 01:52:13,380
 Averages 18-and-a-half, 12-and-a-half.

1774
01:52:13,660 --> 01:52:16,120
 So Alabama's going to have to rebound the basketball.

1775
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:19,300
 They're going to have to take care of it, which they have been doing.

1776
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:20,820
 They've been taking care of the basketball.

1777
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:25,100
 But they've got to have that foursome of guards play well.

1778
01:52:25,100 --> 01:52:26,860
 Only one did in the last game.

1779
01:52:27,260 --> 01:52:28,180
 That was Aiden Holloway.

1780
01:52:28,300 --> 01:52:31,080
 They're going to need, you know, Phylon to be Phylon again.

1781
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:35,580
 And then they're just going to need better efforts out of Houston, Flett, and especially

1782
01:52:35,580 --> 01:52:36,660
 Latrell Reitzel.

1783
01:52:37,020 --> 01:52:40,520
 And if they get Briscoe back, I'm anxious to see how he battles their front court.

1784
01:52:40,980 --> 01:52:44,640
 I know they took a picture of him, and what he did, he wasn't in a boot.

1785
01:52:44,780 --> 01:52:46,440
 So we'll see if he's back tonight.

1786
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:48,980
 Crossing fingers that he will be.

1787
01:52:49,100 --> 01:52:55,800
 But it's another huge opportunity for Alabama to play a high-quality opponent and kind of measure

1788
01:52:55,800 --> 01:53:01,280
 where they are and certainly show a little toughness and play with the edge that they played against

1789
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:04,180
 St. John's because they didn't do that against Purdue.

1790
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:06,640
 But I think the Boilermakers had a lot to do with that.

1791
01:53:07,700 --> 01:53:08,100
 Absolutely.

1792
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:13,900
 D2, where can we get online and listen to you and Scott, the Recruiting Blitz, and your

1793
01:53:13,900 --> 01:53:16,200
 always entertaining Twitter feed?

1794
01:53:16,980 --> 01:53:20,300
 Yeah, you know, you can connect with me at DrewD977ESPN.

1795
01:53:20,580 --> 01:53:23,940
 Also, you can stay with us at 977ESPN.

1796
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:30,220
 And all of our content is on 977ESPN.com, where if you go to our SoundCloud page, you miss

1797
01:53:30,220 --> 01:53:38,000
 talking ball from 7 to 9 a.m., you can go to 97.7 ESPN, which is 97.7 The Zone, and check

1798
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:38,660
 it out anytime.

1799
01:53:39,020 --> 01:53:41,600
 And we always appreciate being on the Boomo Bugg Show.

1800
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:47,060
 And certainly, you know, it's going to be a big weekend for Alabama football and basketball

1801
01:53:47,060 --> 01:53:50,480
 tonight as they get the FS1 game.

1802
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:52,840
 But, you know, you can listen to it on 93.9.

1803
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:56,440
 You can listen to it on, of course, ESPN 97.7 The Zone.

1804
01:53:56,440 --> 01:54:00,800
 And just turn down your volume, listen to the radio broadcast, and watch a couple of

1805
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:04,920
 really good teams go head up tonight in that Big Ten and SEC showdown.

1806
01:54:05,580 --> 01:54:06,600
 Sound like a winner, Drew.

1807
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:07,860
 Listen, man, I ain't got those sentiments.

1808
01:54:08,060 --> 01:54:10,180
 Thanks for your time today, and stay safe out there, okay?

1809
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:11,720
 Thank you, guys.

1810
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:12,780
 Thank you, buddy.

1811
01:54:13,020 --> 01:54:15,160
 DrewD9, 97.7 FM The Zone.

1812
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:18,620
 Once again, baby, a big night here on 93.9 The Score.

1813
01:54:19,060 --> 01:54:19,920
 Yeah, you go.

1814
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:26,540
 Pre-game beginning with Roger Hoover and Brian Passink at seven, tip-off at eight.

1815
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:32,820
 And, by the way, I mentioned this earlier, Kebis White, long-tenured Bob Jones, is retiring

1816
01:54:32,820 --> 01:54:34,500
 and stepping down.

1817
01:54:36,100 --> 01:54:37,020
 We will see.

1818
01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:42,080
 That's a big domino with Forrest High School coaching football jobs, and we'll see what happens

1819
01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:42,420
 there.

1820
01:54:42,660 --> 01:54:45,480
 First family of coaching in the big city of Cortland, Alabama.

1821
01:54:45,620 --> 01:54:46,240
 That's the roots.

1822
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:49,740
 That's going to take care of us for now on behalf of B.B., Greg, James Blair, the entire

1823
01:54:49,740 --> 01:54:50,160
 crew here.

1824
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:52,520
 Harold LeBug, thank you so much for your time today.

1825
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:56,140
 Let's do it again tomorrow, noon to two for the Boomo Bugg Show, back here on Sports Radio

1826
01:54:56,140 --> 01:54:57,380
 93.9 The Score.

